Agreed. The two ‘misses’ tonight were when he was running at full pelt with the keeper racing out to close the angle yet some talk like their two yard taps ins. They couldn’t handle his pace and power and his link play with Palmer tonight was very good. He’s a top player
Millwall ratings (8 Viewers)
- Thread starter Nick
- Start date
Agreed. The two ‘misses’ tonight were when he was running at full pelt with the keeper racing out to close the angle yet some talk like their two yard taps ins. They couldn’t handle his pace and power and his link play with Palmer tonight was very good. He’s a top player
harvey098
Well-Known Member
Palmer great again. His weight of passing and link up has been fantastic all season but his work rate and fitness has really been impressive recently. 9 tonight.
Gyok is the most unconventionally effective player I’ve ever seen for us. Great performance and incredible goal. 9 too.
Gyok is the most unconventionally effective player I’ve ever seen for us. Great performance and incredible goal. 9 too.
hill83
Well-Known Member
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
How many teams in the EPL don't improve with Vik in their side?
Got to be at least half of them
ms639
Well-Known Member
Wilson 6 - couple of decent saves. Hates coming for a cross
BNC 7.5 - best game for us by a mile, little naive on the ball sometimes but expected with age
McNally 7 - solid
Fadz 8 - such a calming influence in that back 5, authoritative and head like a breadbin
Doyle 7 - more comfortable with Fadz alongside
Bidwell 6.5 - does his defensive work well, going forward offers v little but not his game
Hamer 7.5 - good solid performance surprised he was hooked first
Eccles - 6.5 bit naive on the ball, looked rushed sometimes
Allen - 5 was shite tonight, game passed him by, couldn’t get a foot on the ball
Palmer - 8 MOTM everything good came through him, growing week on week
Vik - 8 vik doing vik things, ran their defenders ragged. Goal belongs on pornhub
Subs 6 - nout to write home about
Cunts who shut off the m6 junction 2 - 1, wankers
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BNC 7.5 - best game for us by a mile, little naive on the ball sometimes but expected with age
McNally 7 - solid
Fadz 8 - such a calming influence in that back 5, authoritative and head like a breadbin
Doyle 7 - more comfortable with Fadz alongside
Bidwell 6.5 - does his defensive work well, going forward offers v little but not his game
Hamer 7.5 - good solid performance surprised he was hooked first
Eccles - 6.5 bit naive on the ball, looked rushed sometimes
Allen - 5 was shite tonight, game passed him by, couldn’t get a foot on the ball
Palmer - 8 MOTM everything good came through him, growing week on week
Vik - 8 vik doing vik things, ran their defenders ragged. Goal belongs on pornhub
Subs 6 - nout to write home about
Cunts who shut off the m6 junction 2 - 1, wankers
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Evo1883
Well-Known Member
Well he's a million miles better than simms who started for Everton last night
For me , there aren't many forwards today that can carry the ball and bully defenders in that manner
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
Well-Known Member
BNC was refreshing. Every time he got the ball he took his man on. Played very high which was countered by the fact Bidwell likes to sit in, so worked well.
Don’t think we see Wilson Esbrand and Cuffy on from the start at the same time but deffo gives us more attacking threat, something we have been crying out for.
Don’t think we see Wilson Esbrand and Cuffy on from the start at the same time but deffo gives us more attacking threat, something we have been crying out for.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
Well-Known Member
Grendel
Well-Known Member
I’ve been offered a 10 year deal
Londonccfcfan
Well-Known Member
Notable mentions:
Palmer motm. 9
Just getting better fitter and stronger game by game.
Vik: 8.5
Norton Cuffy: 8
Palmer motm. 9
Just getting better fitter and stronger game by game.
Vik: 8.5
Norton Cuffy: 8
The Philosopher
Well-Known Member
Wilson 8
Clean sheet and a couple of decent saves and game management gets him an 8. What he also does well is move around the box to be on hand to receive the back passes from our defenders when they get under pressure. He follows the play in that regard, defender being pressed? Along comes Ben to offer an outlet. Can’t remember Moore or Marosi doing that so much. Couple of poor kicks but overall good.
McNally 6
This is our best back 3 and overall he did ok. Couple of poor clearances and a telegraphed ball which lead to an easy cut out (and a booking for our player?) stops him getting a 7. That said, adds height and ability to the back line.
Fadz 8
We’ve missed him. Solid, vocal, organised. Can’t remember him being caught out much or doing anything wrong.
Doyle 7
Better when playing alongside Fadz. Couple of great passes and then a couple of poor ones. What’s with him trying to be Hamer with the long passes though? You’re a centre back and need to keeping an eye on who you are marking at all times.
Nutted-Cuffs 8
Had some coffee today that man. Much improved. Cut in and drove in like a 2020 Fanky Dabo at times and had a much more confident look about him. Not sure he actually did anything to get booked and then had to temper his play a little. That’s what we want from our wing backs - cut and drive in as well as hit the by-line. It stretches the opposition because they don’t know who is marking who, especially when you’ve got Vik who could appear absolutely anywhere (I mean, how do you put a marker on Vik and still have cover for marauding wing backs?)
Bidwell 6
Just looks off his game and as though his confidence has gone a bit. Ok defensively but just ran into traffic going forwards. It’s as though our wing backs were told to drive inwards against Millwall, BNC has the power and pace, Bidwell not. Been ok most of the season though.
Eccles 6
Was he told to play deep midfield on the right and cover BNC going forward? Nearly scored him a 5 because of a few poor passes and tackles but we won and had a clean sheet.
Hamer 7
A bit quieter than of late but he’s still class. Arguably deserved an 8 but wasted a couple of free kicks. His defensive covering and calmness under pressure at the back is notable. He’s also difficult to knock off the ball despite his size. Take note Jamie Allen. No booking - good.
Allen 5
Again, some positives which stop him getting a 4 or a big fat zero: covers ground and gets into positions that stop opponents passing. Good at short give-and-go, can get into positions that pulls markers away….but….
He’s outmuscled every time, can’t tight-control a ball and gets it taken off him, shooting is poor, final ball poor.
Palmer 8
Contrast the tight control of Palmer to Allen’s. Palmer will receive a ball in a melee and come away with it more often than not. Plays these really short - slow passes and runs away into space taking his marker with him to leave our onrushing attackers to run on to the (almost placed) ball. I can see Hamer hammering some of those home in the coming weeks. Sublime skills and running and even showed some physicality in mixing it up with their players.
Gyok 9
Plus one for that screamer. Runs all game and generally terrorised their back line. Unlucky not to get another. He’s got to be in our top 10 strikers of modern times, maybe even top 5. Can we design some kind of Lycra breathable shirt that can’t get grabbed for him? Never known a player so shirt-pulled.
Subs:
Worryingly late especially when we have players on yellows and want to play down the clock. Wilson-Esbrand got a second yellow at the weekend meaning that we were hanging on for a draw rather than pressing for our late winner.
Shout out for Kelly who showed the value of experience by booting the ball to Radford whenever necessary.
Why not Maguire for Allen or Palmer?
Anyway. 3 points. Onwards.
Clean sheet and a couple of decent saves and game management gets him an 8. What he also does well is move around the box to be on hand to receive the back passes from our defenders when they get under pressure. He follows the play in that regard, defender being pressed? Along comes Ben to offer an outlet. Can’t remember Moore or Marosi doing that so much. Couple of poor kicks but overall good.
McNally 6
This is our best back 3 and overall he did ok. Couple of poor clearances and a telegraphed ball which lead to an easy cut out (and a booking for our player?) stops him getting a 7. That said, adds height and ability to the back line.
Fadz 8
We’ve missed him. Solid, vocal, organised. Can’t remember him being caught out much or doing anything wrong.
Doyle 7
Better when playing alongside Fadz. Couple of great passes and then a couple of poor ones. What’s with him trying to be Hamer with the long passes though? You’re a centre back and need to keeping an eye on who you are marking at all times.
Nutted-Cuffs 8
Had some coffee today that man. Much improved. Cut in and drove in like a 2020 Fanky Dabo at times and had a much more confident look about him. Not sure he actually did anything to get booked and then had to temper his play a little. That’s what we want from our wing backs - cut and drive in as well as hit the by-line. It stretches the opposition because they don’t know who is marking who, especially when you’ve got Vik who could appear absolutely anywhere (I mean, how do you put a marker on Vik and still have cover for marauding wing backs?)
Bidwell 6
Just looks off his game and as though his confidence has gone a bit. Ok defensively but just ran into traffic going forwards. It’s as though our wing backs were told to drive inwards against Millwall, BNC has the power and pace, Bidwell not. Been ok most of the season though.
Eccles 6
Was he told to play deep midfield on the right and cover BNC going forward? Nearly scored him a 5 because of a few poor passes and tackles but we won and had a clean sheet.
Hamer 7
A bit quieter than of late but he’s still class. Arguably deserved an 8 but wasted a couple of free kicks. His defensive covering and calmness under pressure at the back is notable. He’s also difficult to knock off the ball despite his size. Take note Jamie Allen. No booking - good.
Allen 5
Again, some positives which stop him getting a 4 or a big fat zero: covers ground and gets into positions that stop opponents passing. Good at short give-and-go, can get into positions that pulls markers away….but….
He’s outmuscled every time, can’t tight-control a ball and gets it taken off him, shooting is poor, final ball poor.
Palmer 8
Contrast the tight control of Palmer to Allen’s. Palmer will receive a ball in a melee and come away with it more often than not. Plays these really short - slow passes and runs away into space taking his marker with him to leave our onrushing attackers to run on to the (almost placed) ball. I can see Hamer hammering some of those home in the coming weeks. Sublime skills and running and even showed some physicality in mixing it up with their players.
Gyok 9
Plus one for that screamer. Runs all game and generally terrorised their back line. Unlucky not to get another. He’s got to be in our top 10 strikers of modern times, maybe even top 5. Can we design some kind of Lycra breathable shirt that can’t get grabbed for him? Never known a player so shirt-pulled.
Subs:
Worryingly late especially when we have players on yellows and want to play down the clock. Wilson-Esbrand got a second yellow at the weekend meaning that we were hanging on for a draw rather than pressing for our late winner.
Shout out for Kelly who showed the value of experience by booting the ball to Radford whenever necessary.
Why not Maguire for Allen or Palmer?
Anyway. 3 points. Onwards.
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Shirt pull is a cynical foul and should be punished with a yellow
Ref was very consistent bnc deserved a card
PUSB-We_are_going_up
Well-Known Member
Wilson 7
McNally 7.5
Fadz 8
Doyle 7.5
BNC 7.5
Eccles 6.5
Hamer 8
Bidwell 6
Palmer 8.5
Allen 4.5, 10 for them stopped all of our attacks
Gyokeres 8
McNally 7.5
Fadz 8
Doyle 7.5
BNC 7.5
Eccles 6.5
Hamer 8
Bidwell 6
Palmer 8.5
Allen 4.5, 10 for them stopped all of our attacks
Gyokeres 8
Fergusons_Beard
Well-Known Member
The Philosopher
Well-Known Member
I don’t care if I get pelters for saying this:
We played well and ONLY won 1-0. We were under pressure at the back for the final 20 and was a mistake / Ref error / fluke away from dropping 2 points.
Allen has been out of his depth for a while, maybe it’s the set up and where we ask him to play but he can’t keep hold of the ball if pressed and moves break down.
This “there’s always a whipping boy and look at what a hero I am for standing up for them” ballax is just that. Ballax.
Jamie Allen isn’t playing well enough and doesn’t offer much. As I said earlier he has some positives but his performance yesterday did not deserve higher than 5 (nor does it very often).
I apologise if this offends your sense of “standing up for justice”
The Philosopher
Well-Known Member
WestEndAgro
Well-Known Member
Wilson 7.5
Cuffy 7.5
McNally 7.5
Fadz 8
Doyle 7.5
Bidwell 7
Eccles 7
Hamer 7.5
Palmer 8
Allen 6
Gyokeres 9 what a player
Cuffy 7.5
McNally 7.5
Fadz 8
Doyle 7.5
Bidwell 7
Eccles 7
Hamer 7.5
Palmer 8
Allen 6
Gyokeres 9 what a player
ccfc1234
Well-Known Member
He has been poor for a few weeks and in truth his attributes for the team are mainly defensively as he harrasses forwards from the front. It's under rated and I think Robins likes that kind of press. But it really means our attacks are far less effective. If onky we had COH fit.
While we're talking about very underwhelming performances Eccles was miles off it and gave the ball away far too often and Robins said so in his interview. Fadz had a word with him to stop playing silly passes after turning possession over two times in a minute. If he wants to play CM rather than back up RWB he needs to improve areas of his game significantly.
stupot07
Well-Known Member
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Thought Allen was the weak link but he was worthy of a 6. Maguire should have been on for him last 15
stupot07
Well-Known Member
You're ignoring his role in the team. He's a box to box player. His role is to get up and down, trigger the press, make runs in behind, to create space for others, and to get back into shape blocking passing lines when we lose the ball. That's his role. He's not there to be a ball playing midfielder.
Gary Rowett mentioned our running in his post match interview, Allen is a key part of that. Robins keeps picking him for a reason.
"Coventry really had the edge about them at the start, a bit like we've done to so many teams. Really bright, full of running. It took us a while to get into the game. Did we deserve a draw? Probably not."
Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
Last edited:
Of course running is important.
But at this level you need more than just running and pressing. That should be a given, you still need to provide more than that.
30 yards of forward passes and 20 yards of progressive carries (both the lowest in the team) is simply not acceptable for an attacking midfielder in my opinion and no amount of pressing is going to change my mind.
Injuries and lack of funds mean he has to start, I get that. But if O'Hare was fit right now then Allen would be on the bench.
As I've said before, I'm not hating on the guy. He does some things really well and I cannot fault his effort and commitment, and he has a role to play, but we need more than that and unfortunately he's just not technically good enough to be a starting attacking midfielder in a team that has playoff ambitions.
stupot07
Well-Known Member
Where are those stats from? They are bollocks. He did one carry alone which was 20 yards in the first 5 minutes.
His role isn't as a ball player his role is to run off the ball. A good team is the sum of its parts. You need a balance of players doing different roles. Robins and Adi play him to do a specific role, which he does week in week out. He lacks technically, and will be replaced eventually but he does a vital job for the team.
Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
He was really poor
stupot07
Well-Known Member
The Philosopher
Well-Known Member
Robins is perhaps defending his team selection. He’s got King Doug paying close attention and might want a pay rise.
Joking aside, we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes now Hyam has left (satire) but am still confused why Maguire hasn’t had more than 10 mins.
Allen has qualities, agreed; but he’s useless in the attacking final quarter and play often breaks down with him there. Maybe Robins giving him some praise is to not demotivate Allen further. We are short on players and it’s better to have a motivated short player than a demotivated one. Let’s hope Allen doesn’t read this forum.
All this slating with Allen, shows how little we all know about the game. Allen is one of the quicker players we have, in reserve, and he is currently sitting in for O'Hare. It is not his normal position and with all the crap he has to take I ask the question, who should MR play in that position without affecting the style of play?
I have seen so many players, over the years, who have been slaughtered by the fans for not doing enough, being slow, not able to do this or that, however, they were playing out of position.
If we are truly supporters of the club, and team, then we should start supporting ALL players and stop being sissies and having our favourites and villians.
I have seen so many players, over the years, who have been slaughtered by the fans for not doing enough, being slow, not able to do this or that, however, they were playing out of position.
If we are truly supporters of the club, and team, then we should start supporting ALL players and stop being sissies and having our favourites and villians.
The Philosopher
Well-Known Member
Allen isn’t quick. His legs move quick because he’s little. He’s often caught up with in the charge and is beaten in a ball chase.
He does keep running though - I’ll credit that.
CITY’S 45 🇯🇲
Member
Can we all just appreciate how good our number 45 is 