South Stand home end? (12 Viewers)

Old Warwickshire lad

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I think the issue will be away fans having to walk amongst home fans to their buses - even with the fences now there are muppets from both sides making aggressive moves - they can segregate them currently and get them away easily onto the 444
The away coaches would be outside the north stand. They would then drive directly to the island, then on to the M6
 

Mcbean

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The away coaches would be outside the north stand. They would then drive directly to the island, then on to the M6
Yes but there is a mass of Sky blue fans who walk that way to their cars etc- they would either have to keep the away fans locked in or stop the Cov fans walking around that way - in my view I am not sure they would let that happen
 

Bad Boy

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Yes but there is a mass of Sky blue fans who walk that way to their cars etc- they would either have to keep the away fans locked in or stop the Cov fans walking around that way - in my view I am not sure they would let that happen
There's more than enough responses on here about opposing fans mingling outside so I'll just say this.... Did any of you go to Fulham last April?
I'll say no more.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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The away coaches would be outside the north stand. They would then drive directly to the island, then on to the M6


Would have to change the road layout, it's one way only, traffic has to go all the way round the CBS.
 

SkyblueDad

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Moving away fans to the North Stand will never happen for all sorts of logistical reasons a main one is most of the police and security are at the South end of the ground inside or out.
 

clint van damme

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There's more than enough responses on here about opposing fans mingling outside so I'll just say this.... Did any of you go to Fulham last April?
I'll say no more.

Probably not the best example if you're aware of what happened in the park afterwards!
 

rob9872

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There's more than enough responses on here about opposing fans mingling outside so I'll just say this.... Did any of you go to Fulham last April?
I'll say no more.
I did and all I remember is about a 3 mile walk to the coaches. Didn't see any trouble and could've parked them all outside.
 

pusbccfc

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One of the best atmosphere's at a stadium I have experienced was HSV (Hamburg). They have a standing terrace like the image below. Would love to have something like this at the CBS (probably south stand). No idea where you would put the away fans, but for me, having a 'hardcore' corner like we do at the moment just seems tinpot. We have a stadium with a lot of potential, and I feel like we don't reach it whatsoever.

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@Sky Blue Pete please can you contact the club? Happy to be on the planning committee!

Don't get what's wrong with a corner. Many clubs have it as their noisy section.
 

dadgad

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My overriding preference for the South to be the ‘home end’ is because:
1) Improve and consolidate home support.
2) Improve the match day experience bringing in more fans/revenue.
3) With tweaks to the ground/concourse and transport improve safety/segregation.
4) Greater/louder vocal encouragement for Sky Blues result in 12 extra points per season particularly if away support must contend with rain/sun by being moved North. 👍

It’s Win/win/win/win
 

Johhny Blue

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My overriding preference for the South to be the ‘home end’ is because:
1) Improve and consolidate home support.
2) Improve the match day experience bringing in more fans/revenue.
3) With tweaks to the ground/concourse and transport improve safety/segregation.
4) Greater/louder vocal encouragement for Sky Blues result in 12 extra points per season particularly if away support must contend with rain/sun by being moved North. 👍

It’s Win/win/win/win
And hopefully win
 

SheafIsGod

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In the early days of the Ricoh the club sold home tickets in the South Stand (Jewson stand as it was then). I used to stand there. I remember Stoke bringing a very boisterous 3,000 fans in their promotion season with about 6 stewards separating them and about 100 City fans. We’d have been fucked.

The take up was very poor and with the Telegraph Stand being the “home end” it didn’t last long. However, I think now that everyone has migrated to be nearer to the away fans it would get a big take up and would improve the atmosphere even further.
 

Flying Fokker

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Would still be interested to know the exact constraints in the stadium though. If it cost (say) a million to overcome them and improve the attractiveness to home fans, it would pay for itself in no time.
I’m sure there is a good reason. Station? Location of the casino? ease of access for coaches? It May not change until the stadium becomes full. A trial period would be good. Allocated season tickets? Just 1500 behind the goal?
 

theferret

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I find it bizarre how we talk about fans mingling outside being this big head-scratcher that we have to find a solution for.

As others have said, look at every other ground in the country. At HR the WT would exit around 20 yards away from the away fans exit.

At the Ricoh, from 2005-2017, there was no separation outside. You could walk straight across car park B straight past the south stand exit. It's all a bit weird.
 

fernandopartridge

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In the early days of the Ricoh the club sold home tickets in the South Stand (Jewson stand as it was then). I used to stand there. I remember Stoke bringing a very boisterous 3,000 fans in their promotion season with about 6 stewards separating them and about 100 City fans. We’d have been fucked.

The take up was very poor and with the Telegraph Stand being the “home end” it didn’t last long. However, I think now that everyone has migrated to be nearer to the away fans it would get a big take up and would improve the atmosphere even further.
It was season tickets only weren't it?
 

Mcbean

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The problem is the muppets who want to show how tough they are - these are the people that will stop any change
 

Calista

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Moving away fans to the North Stand will never happen for all sorts of logistical reasons a main one is most of the police and security are at the South end of the ground inside or out.
There could be a number of valid reasons why moving the away fans isn’t possible, but surely this isn’t one of them. If the Police have some sort of base at the stadium but can’t look after an area 150 yards away round the corner it’s pretty strange.
 

chiefdave

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I find it bizarre how we talk about fans mingling outside being this big head-scratcher that we have to find a solution for.

As others have said, look at every other ground in the country. At HR the WT would exit around 20 yards away from the away fans exit.

At the Ricoh, from 2005-2017, there was no separation outside. You could walk straight across car park B straight past the south stand exit. It's all a bit weird.
Not to mention that for years there was a simple and effective solution if trouble was expected. Keep the away fans in for 10 mins after the game.
 

Bad Boy

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Probably not the best example if you're aware of what happened in the park afterwards!
I wasn't aware of what happened, I can only comment on what I saw.
Fulham and City fans mingling behind the Putney End Stand eating drinking chatting seemingly with no bovver.
To learn that a knife was pulled by someone somewhere leaves a rather spoiled view of my pleasant image of what I experienced in my first ever visit at Craven Cottage.
I sincerely hope no one got hurt and has left someone badly traumatised.
 

clint van damme

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I wasn't aware of what happened, I can only comment on what I saw.
Fulham and City fans mingling behind the Putney End Stand eating drinking chatting seemingly with no bovver.
To learn that a knife was pulled by someone somewhere leaves a rather spoiled view of my pleasant image of what I experienced in my first ever visit at Craven Cottage.
I sincerely hope no one got hurt and has left someone badly traumatised.

Yes, I had great day. Love to go there again.
There's idiots everywhere though unfortunately.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I'm not sure how will this picture will come out, but I was feeling a bit poorly and bored this afternoon, so had a think about this discussion.

Key:

Yellow - New Singers Corner - Approx 2000 Capacity
Red - New Away End - Approx 3000 Capacity
Black - New Safe Standing Section - Approx 2000 Capacity

The section above the black square then becomes pretty much another tier, which could look smart behind a decent safe standing section, which itself would fit nicely between the two large entry/access points. The away end would need to comply with the minimum league standards (3000 I believe) and therefore might need some jiggling, but the rest of the stadium after that pretty much stays as it is.

I know I'm not going to win architect of the year, but it's some food for though, perhaps.

CBS Plans.jpg
 

Calista

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I'm not sure how will this picture will come out, but I was feeling a bit poorly and bored this afternoon, so had a think about this discussion.

Key:

Yellow - New Singers Corner - Approx 2000 Capacity
Red - New Away End - Approx 3000 Capacity
Black - New Safe Standing Section - Approx 2000 Capacity

The section above the black square then becomes pretty much another tier, which could look smart behind a decent safe standing section, which itself would fit nicely between the two large entry/access points. The away end would need to comply with the minimum league standards (3000 I believe) and therefore might need some jiggling, but the rest of the stadium after that pretty much stays as it is.

I know I'm not going to win architect of the year, but it's some food for though, perhaps.

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I don’t see why you shouldn’t at least be shortlisted for Architect of the Year ;)

I like what you’ve done there in principle, including the safe standing. It gives Sky Blues fans the area behind the goal, and relegates away supporters to the corner. Currently it’s the other way around, which is my main objection to how things are now.

But are there really 3000 seats in the yellow bit? And I guess you've assumed that the SAG are going to give up on their apparent demand for an enormous No Man’s Land on each side of the Away section? That's what makes things so difficult to solve, and their approach seems like overkill to me.
 

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