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Flying Fokker

Flying Fokker

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Sunderland retained list is big. We achieved great things with a small squad.



Retained list confirmed

Sunderland AFC today confirmed its retained list for the 2023-24 season.

Carl Winchester will depart the Club after two-and-a-half years, while Jacob Carney will also leave when his contract expires on 30 June 2023.

Amad Diallo, Edouard Michut and Joseph Gelhardt have also returned to their parent clubs.

Everyone at Sunderland AFC would like to thank the players for their professionalism and commitment during their time at the Club, and wish them well for the future.

Contracted

Ajibola Alese
Joseph Anderson
Abdoullah Ba
Daniel Ballard
Alex Bass
Daniel Batth
Jewison Bennette
Thomas Chiabi
Dennis Cirkin
Jack Clarke
Ben Crompton
Leon Dajaku
Jack Diamond
Pierre Ekwah
Elliot Embleton
Corry Evans
Lynden Gooch
Niall Huggins
Trai Hume
Zak Johnson
Caden Kelly
Isaac Lihadji
Jay Matete
Daniel Neil
Luke O’Nien
Anthony Patterson
Alex Pritchard
Connor Pye
Adam Richardson
Patrick Roberts
Ross Stewart
Ellis Taylor
Max Thompson
Timur Tutierov
Callum Wilson
Bailey Wright

Contract To Be Offered

The Club are in discussions with the following players regarding signing a new contract:

Harry Gardiner
Michael Spellman

Out Of Contract and Released

Harrison Bond
Jacob Carney
Cameron Jessup
Ethan Kachosa
Nathan Newall
Owen Robinson
Thomas Scott
Harrison Sohna
Carl Winchester

Loan Players

The following players will return to their parent clubs following the expiration of their loan deals:

Amad Diallo
Joseph Gelhardt
Edouard Michut

Youth Players Offered Professional Contracts

Oliver Bainbridge
Marshall Burke
Henry Fieldson
Harrison Jones
Ben Middlemas
Ethan Moore
Joseph Ryder

Second-Year Scholars Released At The End Of Their Scholarship

Will Cain
William Dowling
Louie Salkeld
Ben Williams
 
fatso

fatso

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Fuckinhell they got more players than some clubs have fans.

Expect to see them go bankrupt soon.
 
Offhegoes

Offhegoes

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A big squad means lots of players unhappy they are not playing, therefore harder to build the spirit and closeness in the dressing room. I am sure all our issues at the start of the season along with the double injury to O'Hare (from all accounts very popular with the team) helped us in a strange way. I remember when we went up to League 1 and signed loads of players that summer. It was a fairly poor season until the last couple of months where Robins worked out his best team, and then we grew from that into next season. We lost McNulty,to Reading, Grimmer was frozen out and Biamou got an ACL. 3 of our key players from the League 2 campaign.
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Flying Fokker said:
Sunderland retained list is big. We achieved great things with a small squad.



Retained list confirmed

Sunderland AFC today confirmed its retained list for the 2023-24 season.

Carl Winchester will depart the Club after two-and-a-half years, while Jacob Carney will also leave when his contract expires on 30 June 2023.

Amad Diallo, Edouard Michut and Joseph Gelhardt have also returned to their parent clubs.

Everyone at Sunderland AFC would like to thank the players for their professionalism and commitment during their time at the Club, and wish them well for the future.

Contracted

Ajibola Alese
Joseph Anderson
Abdoullah Ba
Daniel Ballard
Alex Bass
Daniel Batth
Jewison Bennette
Thomas Chiabi
Dennis Cirkin
Jack Clarke
Ben Crompton
Leon Dajaku
Jack Diamond
Pierre Ekwah
Elliot Embleton
Corry Evans
Lynden Gooch
Niall Huggins
Trai Hume
Zak Johnson
Caden Kelly
Isaac Lihadji
Jay Matete
Daniel Neil
Luke O’Nien
Anthony Patterson
Alex Pritchard
Connor Pye
Adam Richardson
Patrick Roberts
Ross Stewart
Ellis Taylor
Max Thompson
Timur Tutierov
Callum Wilson
Bailey Wright

Contract To Be Offered

The Club are in discussions with the following players regarding signing a new contract:

Harry Gardiner
Michael Spellman

Out Of Contract and Released

Harrison Bond
Jacob Carney
Cameron Jessup
Ethan Kachosa
Nathan Newall
Owen Robinson
Thomas Scott
Harrison Sohna
Carl Winchester

Loan Players

The following players will return to their parent clubs following the expiration of their loan deals:

Amad Diallo
Joseph Gelhardt
Edouard Michut

Youth Players Offered Professional Contracts

Oliver Bainbridge
Marshall Burke
Henry Fieldson
Harrison Jones
Ben Middlemas
Ethan Moore
Joseph Ryder

Second-Year Scholars Released At The End Of Their Scholarship

Will Cain
William Dowling
Louie Salkeld
Ben Williams
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Be good if we had that Amad Diallo on loan next season no matter what league were in.
 
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Happy_Martian

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With the way the Sunderland forum goes on, most of them have been injured this season yet each one could still have stepped straight into the Paris SG first team.

I can understand their frustration at losing Stewart for most of the season (would have the same reaction from us if we lost Vik) but looking at the size of that squad, I'm be very surprised if they didn't have some internal replacement ready to go. Instead, they went with a terrible loan of a forward who wasn't a striker from Leeds (Gelhart) and another from Everton who hardly played (Simms).

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Be good if we had that Amad Diallo on loan next season no matter what league were in.
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Doubt Man Utd would want him playing against them if we got promoted. And if we stayed down, the dilemma would be where would we play him ? He hasn't got the physique for an out-and-out striker or target man. Personally, I think he'd be better in more of a CoH role, behind the main striker(s) in a creative position where he can use his speed and ability.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Happy_Martian said:
With the way the Sunderland forum goes on, most of them have been injured this season yet each one could still have stepped straight into the Paris SG first team.

I can understand their frustration at losing Stewart for most of the season (would have the same reaction from us if we lost Vik) but looking at the size of that squad, I'm be very surprised if they didn't have some internal replacement ready to go. Instead, they went with a terrible loan of a forward who wasn't a striker from Leeds (Gelhart) and another from Everton who hardly played (Simms).



Doubt Man Utd would want him playing against them if we got promoted. And if we stayed down, the dilemma would be where would we play him ? He hasn't got the physique for an out-and-out striker or target man. Personally, I think he'd be better in more of a CoH role, behind the main striker(s) in a creative position where he can use his speed and ability.
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PL loans can’t play against the parent club but think he will be challenging for their first team squad anyway.
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Happy_Martian said:
With the way the Sunderland forum goes on, most of them have been injured this season yet each one could still have stepped straight into the Paris SG first team.

I can understand their frustration at losing Stewart for most of the season (would have the same reaction from us if we lost Vik) but looking at the size of that squad, I'm be very surprised if they didn't have some internal replacement ready to go. Instead, they went with a terrible loan of a forward who wasn't a striker from Leeds (Gelhart) and another from Everton who hardly played (Simms).



Doubt Man Utd would want him playing against them if we got promoted. And if we stayed down, the dilemma would be where would we play him ? He hasn't got the physique for an out-and-out striker or target man. Personally, I think he'd be better in more of a CoH role, behind the main striker(s) in a creative position where he can use his speed and ability.
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Here what you say about Man United not wanting him to play against them, just put a clause in his contract saying he won't play against them.

And yes he's best position is in the Calum O' Hare position, But CoH will not be match fit until October, November so it would nice to have the choice.

But it all depends on what Man United want to do with him.
 
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Happy_Martian

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
PL loans can’t play against the parent club but think he will be challenging for their first team squad anyway.
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No, it's far too early for their first team. He can't play the ST role so Martial is safe. And he won't displace Rashford or Antony currently and they're the only 2 spots he could realistically fill. CM is Casemiro, Fernandes and Erikson who are all guaranteed starts.

I'd expect him to be back in the Championship next season with a side fighting for autos, either one of the relegated teams, Boro or Blackburn. Or more likely abroad getting more experience of stronger defences. As much as we enjoyed the challenge of the Championship this season, facing teams of similar quality to Wigan, Blackpool and Huddersfield again won't prepare a player for the Prem or European competition.
 
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Happy_Martian said:
No, it's far too early for their first team. He can't play the ST role so Martial is safe. And he won't displace Rashford or Antony currently and they're the only 2 spots he could realistically fill. CM is Casemiro, Fernandes and Erikson who are all guaranteed starts.

I'd expect him to be back in the Championship next season with a side fighting for autos, either one of the relegated teams, Boro or Blackburn. Or more likely abroad getting more experience of stronger defences. As much as we enjoyed the challenge of the Championship this season, facing teams of similar quality to Wigan, Blackpool and Huddersfield again won't prepare a player for the Prem or European competition.
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Have to say he looks a better player than Antony already. Antony is so one dimensional. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Man U's first team next year and if not surely he will be loaned out to a Premier League team next season, hopefully us.
 
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