Israel - Palestinian Conflict (11 Viewers)

[Otis]

I think if we actually dove deep we'd find all sorts of opinions that people wouldn't like to state publicly .. hamas beating Israel in conflict would surely be one on here

Not from me.

I just want to see peace over there. Can't stand Hamas and can't stand the Israeli regime.

 

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[Evo1883]

Most people seem to want a two state solution.

Course they do

 

[Evo1883]

Not from me.

I just want to see peace over there. Can't stand Hamas and can't stand the Israeli regime.

The Israeli regime will still be that even after Benjamin netanyahu, they will always hold the values they do

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No as they are a democratic state and have declared war so technically no and as I said at the beginning I don’t think it’s easy for anyone to understand this unless you live in it

I would also say no one on here made any comment on the Hamas invasion at the time. I think Evo is pointing out there are far more Zara Sultanas on this thread than others with alternate views

They were busy bombing children well before this declaration of war. There's zero excuse, sorry

 

[Grendel]

The Israeli regime will still be that even after Benjamin netanyahu, they will always hold the values they do

Correct

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Course they do

What's that meant to mean?

 

[Grendel]

They were busy bombing children well before this declaration of war. There's zero excuse, sorry

Hamas were raping women and parading their dead bodies in Gaza - you never condemned it at the time did you?

 

[Evo1883]

What's that meant to mean?

I've stated what I believe to be true many times on this thread .. nothings changed

 

[skybluetony176]

Well OK then they side with the people that voted them in , same thing

Half of Gaza isn’t even eligible to vote. 67% I think you were claiming voted for them in 2014 which was when the last election was held. So in actual fact 70% of the Gaza didn’t vote them in. On that basis it’s hardly wrong to support the innocent people of Gaza while they’re being deliberately bombed on routes declared safe routes by Israel for instance.

When the smoke settles it’s pretty clear already that Israel are committing war crimes and in plain sight. A lot of people-especially people in power-are going to have to explain why they blindly championed Israel under the faux guise that bombing innocent civilians is equal to defending yourself.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The Israeli regime will still be that even after Benjamin netanyahu, they will always hold the values they do

After assassinating the PM who tried to make peace that is

 

[Evo1883]

England are beating Fiji

 

[Evo1883]

Half of Gaza isn’t even eligible to vote. 67% I think you were claiming voted for them in 2014 which was when the last election was held. So in actual fact 70% of the Gaza didn’t vote them in. On that basis it’s hardly wrong to support the innocent people of Gaza while they’re being deliberately bombed on routes declared safe routes by Israel for instance.

When the smoke settles it’s pretty clear already that Israel are committing war crimes and in plain sight. A lot of people-especially people in power-are going to have to explain why they blindly championed Israel under the faux guise that bombing innocent civilians is equal to defending yourself.

But 60 % still favour them , they'd get voted in again right now no problem

 

[Grendel]

Half of Gaza isn’t even eligible to vote. 67% I think you were claiming voted for them in 2014 which was when the last election was held. So in actual fact 70% of the Gaza didn’t vote them in. On that basis it’s hardly wrong to support the innocent people of Gaza while they’re being deliberately bombed on routes declared safe routes by Israel for instance.

When the smoke settles it’s pretty clear already that Israel are committing war crimes and in plain sight. A lot of people-especially people in power-are going to have to explain why they blindly championed Israel under the faux guise that bombing innocent civilians is equal to defending yourself.

Well you’ve compared Jews to Nazis before Tony so that’s all cool

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Hamas were raping women and parading their dead bodies in Gaza - you never condemned it at the time did you?

Do you want me to comment on every atrocity that's taken place since it started?

 

[Evo1883]

Do you want me to comment on every atrocity that's taken place since it started?

Well you don't have a problem condemning Israel , or Russia

 

[Grendel]

Do you want me to comment on every atrocity that's taken place since it started?

No just the ones that interest you clearly

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well you don't have a problem condemning Israel , or Russia

Look at my first post on this thread

 

[Evo1883]

Look at my first post on this thread

Yea you did the old .. hamas bad but so are Israel

 

[Grendel]

Look at my first post on this thread

Oh sorry the fact is when the initial action happened you said nothing - It’s obvious what you think

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No just the ones that interest you clearly

I mean it's clear what you think of Muslims in general so you see their deaths as less significant. There's no justification for murdering civilians of any kind

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yea you did the old .. hamas bad but so are Israel

So the bombing of civilians is only bad when it's done by one side?

 

[Grendel]

I mean it's clear what you think of Muslims in general so you see their deaths as less significant. There's no justification for murdering civilians of any kind

Im sorry if the cap fits you wear it don’t accuse me of the same

 

[Grendel]

So the bombing of civilians is only bad when it's done by one side?

well didn’t bother you when Hamas were doing it at first

 

[Evo1883]

I mean it's clear what you think of Muslims in general so you see their deaths as less significant. There's no justification for murdering civilians of any kind

Actually I'd argue its pretty clear all over social media , people think the deaths of Israelis matter less than those in gaza ..

You can all be annoyed at what I'm saying but fact is .. it's true

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

well didn’t bother you when Hamas were doing it at first

Nor anyone else trying to get on their high horse

 

[Grendel]

Nor anyone else trying to get on their high horse

But it didn’t yet in the Russia conflict and as soon as Palestine is attacked you say something

When Israel is attacked you say nothing

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Actually I'd argue its pretty clear all over social media , people think the deaths of Israelis matter less than those in gaza ..

You can all be annoyed at what I'm saying but fact is .. it's true

They're equal. But saying that is support for one over the other clearly.

 

[Evo1883]

I haven't lost the plot , I still think you're all sound .. I just don't believe you on this subject.. fuck hamas I hope Israel crush them

That's me

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But it didn’t yet in the Russia conflict and as soon as Palestine is attacked you say something

When Israel is attacked you say nothing

Everyone on here 'said nothing' until the thread started.

 

[Grendel]

Everyone on here 'said nothing' until the thread started.

I think you said something on the Ukraine thread a couple of days before the attack and compared Isreal and Putin didn’t you?

 

[Evo1883]

People in Europe care more than their neighbours .. which again is weird

 

[clint van damme]

I haven't lost the plot , I still think you're all sound .. I just don't believe you on this subject.. fuck hamas I hope Israel crush them

That's me

I've no issue with that, just don't want them to kill 10k kids in the process.

That's me.

The Israrli public will deal with Netanyahu when the dust settles.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you said something on the Ukraine thread a couple of days before the attack and compared Isreal and Putin didn’t you?

Find the quote in that case

 

[Grendel]

Find the quote in that case

You haven’t compared Isreal at all on the thread?

 

[Evo1883]

I've no issue with that, just don't want them to kill 10k kids in the process.

That's me.

The Israrli public will deal with Netanyahu when the dust settles.

They never do though , I agree about the kids , but where are their neighbours offering safe passage ?