Supporters forum 17th January (12 Viewers)

Robinshio

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My point about acronyms being a time waster and making people feeling out of touch and inadequate is a GENERAL point and NOT specific to this forum. I see this in the workplace and other places in life.
to be fair when you put GENERAL and NOT in capitals, you were suggesting that they were in fact acronyms
 

ccfctommy

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Who honestly gives a shit about any of this crap?

'Lets move the TV gantry' Eh?
'The PA System is too quiet'
'There is only one huge exit to outside outside and have a fag' WTF

Okay, stuff about disability access yeah I get, but honestly who cares? Just watch the f*cking game ffs! Why on earth would you care as a match going fan where the f*cking tv gantries are unless they are right in front of you!?

I remember the old SCG meetings and some melt (probably frequents this board) asked why there was no pictures/graphics of the away teams players on the big scoreboard like there was the home team!

Rant over.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Who honestly gives a shit about any of this crap?

'Lets move the TV gantry' Eh?
'The PA System is too quiet'
'There is only one huge exit to outside outside and have a fag' WTF

Okay, stuff about disability access yeah I get, but honestly who cares? Just watch the f*cking game ffs! Why on earth would you care as a match going fan where the f*cking tv gantries are unless they are right in front of you!?

I remember the old SCG meetings and some melt (probably frequents this board) asked why there was no pictures/graphics of the away teams players on the big scoreboard like there was the home team!

Rant over.
Excellent rant
 

David O'Day

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at this rate it'll be recommended you make your way to the nearest available CBS arena turnstile at the final whistle of the cup game so you don't miss any of the Brizzle game
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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i just want us to be able to get in the ground with out there being chaos and that the solution isn't being told to turn up at something 9am
The clubs initial answer last night was exactly that
I pointed out the answer is multi faceted and it’s not just about getting in in time it’s also about safety and directing people round the stadium or to different turnstiles or to manage where people queue

the new coo will be taking a closer look and there’s a match review to pick up why Leicester fans were escorted back to the stadium passed city fans leaving

Also have to say 40 mins waits to get in werent accepted as fact
 

David O'Day

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The clubs initial answer last night was exactly that
I pointed out the answer is multi faceted and it’s not just about getting in in time it’s also about safety and directing people round the stadium or to different turnstiles or to manage where people queue

the new coo will be taking a closer look and there’s a match review to pick up why Leicester fans were escorted back to the stadium passed city fans leaving

Also have to say 40 mins waits to get in werent accepted as fact
they have staff or at least the arena has staff there so surely they could just ask them

was the police rep there? they were also there (and a large part of the problem as they tried to direct a large group of Leicester fans from the station pre game up down the side of the east stand seemingly not caring they were not Cov fans)

The club does need to look at this as long queues and chaos getting will put off the less hardcore fans which will be an even bigger issue next year when a lot more games will be on the tv
 

Sky Blue Pete

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they have staff or at least the arena has staff there so surely they could just ask them

was the police rep there? they were also there (and a large part of the problem as they tried to direct a large group of Leicester fans from the station pre game up down the side of the east stand seemingly not caring they were not Cov fans)

The club does need to look at this as long queues and chaos getting will put off the less hardcore fans which will be an even bigger issue next year when a lot more games will be on the tv
They know
They are
They will
Things have changed in the last 3 sold old home ends

Bars outside are shut 30 mins from kick off
Barriers to manage queues
Better lighting under railway
They asked stadium owner to move temporary fence after the crush getting away 6-8 weeks ago it’s not yet been done so they are asking again

Police rep not there or anyone from stadium interestingly

Notes should be out soon
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
Who honestly gives a shit about any of this crap?

'Lets move the TV gantry' Eh?
'The PA System is too quiet'
'There is only one huge exit to outside outside and have a fag' WTF

Okay, stuff about disability access yeah I get, but honestly who cares? Just watch the f*cking game ffs! Why on earth would you care as a match going fan where the f*cking tv gantries are unless they are right in front of you!?

I remember the old SCG meetings and some melt (probably frequents this board) asked why there was no pictures/graphics of the away teams players on the big scoreboard like there was the home team!

Rant over.

Don't see the issue with the first two? Especially the PA?
 

Greggs

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Can they clean the troff of spilled drinks that flows like a river underneath my feet. Pointless having decent seats if your paddling in piss water.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
Who honestly gives a shit about any of this crap?

'Lets move the TV gantry' Eh?
'The PA System is too quiet'
'There is only one huge exit to outside outside and have a fag' WTF

Okay, stuff about disability access yeah I get, but honestly who cares? Just watch the f*cking game ffs! Why on earth would you care as a match going fan where the f*cking tv gantries are unless they are right in front of you!?

I remember the old SCG meetings and some melt (probably frequents this board) asked why there was no pictures/graphics of the away teams players on the big scoreboard like there was the home team!

Rant over.

I like to have a fag and not miss any football is all. Sorry boss.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
They know
They are
They will
Things have changed in the last 3 sold old home ends

Bars outside are shut 30 mins from kick off
Barriers to manage queues
Better lighting under railway
They asked stadium owner to move temporary fence after the crush getting away 6-8 weeks ago it’s not yet been done so they are asking again

Police rep not there or anyone from stadium interestingly

Notes should be out soon

They know
They are
They will
Things have changed in the last 3 sold old home ends

Bars outside are shut 30 mins from kick off
Barriers to manage queues
Better lighting under railway
They asked stadium owner to move temporary fence after the crush getting away 6-8 weeks ago it’s not yet been done so they are asking again

Police rep not there or anyone from stadium interestingly

Notes should be out soon
no police rep? probably didn't fancy it after the mare they had on Saturday that ended with the liaison officer asking punters for solutions then being shirty when reminded that was his job
 

Sky Blue Pete

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no police rep? probably didn't fancy it after the mare they had on Saturday that ended with the liaison officer asking punters for solutions then being shirty when reminded that was his job
Was a real stupid decision whoever took it both before and after
Was as if they wanted it to kick off
Idiots
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
Who honestly gives a shit about any of this crap?

'Lets move the TV gantry' Eh?
'The PA System is too quiet'
'There is only one huge exit to outside outside and have a fag' WTF

Okay, stuff about disability access yeah I get, but honestly who cares? Just watch the f*cking game ffs! Why on earth would you care as a match going fan where the f*cking tv gantries are unless they are right in front of you!?

I remember the old SCG meetings and some melt (probably frequents this board) asked why there was no pictures/graphics of the away teams players on the big scoreboard like there was the home team!

Rant over
Corner kick sponsored by Mike Oxlong erectile disjunction support solutions . Who gives a toss ?
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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Sorry @Sky Blue Pete , probably not the best place to mention this, but I didn't want to forget/miss the next one. Could we add an item about TicketMaster for the next supporters forum? The user experience for people buying tickets is getting worse and worse. It's almost unusable at times and it's very frustrating.
 

TomRad85

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Sorry @Sky Blue Pete , probably not the best place to mention this, but I didn't want to forget/miss the next one. Could we add an item about TicketMaster for the next supporters forum? The user experience for people buying tickets is getting worse and worse. It's almost unusable at times and it's very frustrating.
Agreed. Absolute shite.

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Sky Blue Pete

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Coventry City Supporters Forum
Minutes from the Meeting on the 17thJanuary 2024

1. Apologies for absence
Alan Ludford – Diamond Club
Pat Raybould – Family Zone
Kevin Heffernen – Irish Branch
Steve Harding – Bedworth & Nuneaton
Dave Eyles – SB Trust
Darren Cowley – Southam

2. New Statue of John Sillett and George Curtis at the CBS – Joe Elliot
Joe gave the forum a detailed account of the origins of the idea to build a statue to commemorate John Sillett and George Curtis recognising the idea presented to him by Pete Griffiths. He went to explain the statue would tell a story of a major part of Coventry City’s history.
Joe explained substantial funds (£151,000) had already been raised, but a further £65,000 needed to be raised. (gofundmepage link below). Joe explained all Forum Members could help spread the word about the statue and how supporters can contribute to fill the funding gap. This included getting your name on the plinth of the statue if you donate £500.00. Joe is happy for individuals to contact him directly if they have any questions (details below). There will be various fundraising events during the next 12 months.
Fundraiser by Coventry City Football Club : Fund a Statue for George Curtis and John Sillett (gofundme.com)
Ccfc.co.uk/statue-appeal

3. Equality and Diversity (EFL Mandate) – John Taylor / Dave Boddy
John introduced himself and said what an honour it is to join the great club. He’s been made to feel so welcome over the first week and a half.
He’s passionate and the club are passionate about E & D. There’s an EFL mandate, we want to go further than the mandate. Club will be sending out a questionnaire to all season ticket holders. Within this there will be an incentive to collect this data. John is keen to get Forum members and other supporters involved to get working groups together to progress this area of our club. The Club want this to be a partnership between the club and supporters.
Tynan asked that we encourage all supporters to complete this survey.
Dave mentioned safeguarding – brief update – All home matchdays this season there have been 4 dedicated safeguarding officers within the stadium bowl. There have been no major safeguarding issues. There have been minor issues that have been resolved on the day. We have a full time Head of Safeguarding at the club and a dedicated full time Safeguarding position at the academy.

4. Club up-date by Doug King
We’re moving ahead with the next phases of the structure of the club.
Ryton development – pitches completed, second phase of all things other than the building. Infrastructure over the next 4 months. Beginning a plan to ensure Ryton provides what is required to get to where we intend to be.
Moving the non-football staff to the arena from March. Focus on what is needed in working closely with the Arena. New office being kitted out over the next 6 weeks.
Appointed a performance director from 1 Feb – Dr. Clare-Marie Roberts. Want to look holistically at all aspects of support and care for our playing squad working in tandem with the coaches and the football coaches / managers. To become the elite professional football club we aim to be
Player side – Victor Torp come in in January – rare occurrence as it’s normally loan players in this window. We only have one loan player. Rotation side of players is a challenge to keep everybody involved and motivated to feeling involved and included.
Run has been excellent since the November break. Real strength of character growing throughout the team.

5. Up-date on Safe Standing Area for 2024-25 – Dave Boddy
Dave advised since the last meeting there has been a change of direction on safe standing. Talked about reconfiguring the away end. As the club moves towards bigger home crowds we have a lot of wasted seats due to the current configuration of the concourse in the South Stand. Lots of work has been going on to reduce the lost seats in the away end and reducing the away capacity.
The safe standing provision has been put on hold until this has been decided, not to say this is going away but both are major pieces of work that need to be done correctly.
Doug said lots of work is going on to optimise the number of seats sold in the stadium on match days. The last 3 games have sold out the general admission for the home end.
Any changes to the away configuration will be from next season.
Jim Brown asked whether we will see 31,000 attendances. Dave said yes of course when the reconfiguration has been completed.

6. Responses to submitted questions – Dave Boddy/John Taylor
On separate document

7. Family Zone up-date – Laura Smith
Jodie update –The new marquee is working really well as a home for the Family Zone. They are still providing all the activities they have done. They need more volunteers – Ifsupporters are interested there is a volunteer form on the CCFC website to complete.

8. Dates for future meetings – All
Colin would like some structured dates so that plans can be made to attend by all groups either in person or on teams. Dave B doesn’t disagree and it would be useful to agree dates in advance. Doug is keen to be involved so through his PA would be a way to do this. John agreed.
John to look at dates with at least one as a face to facemeeting. Next meeting likely to be in April as there should now be 4 a year now.
Challenge from Tynan to increase the diversity of the representatives of our group. Suggestion to bring a less experienced colleague along from our supporters clubs to the face to face meetings

9. Any Other Business
Thanks from the forum to Dave Boddy for his work as CEO of the club and best of luck for any new ventures he may go to.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
Questions from Supporters Forum Members for Club Management.

1. Is there any up-date on the Callum O’Hare contract situation? (CCSWSC)

2. Is it true that we are looking to sign another Japanese player? (CCSWSC)
3. Are we actively looking at bringing in any players in the current transfer window? (CCSWSC)
Dave confirmed we’ve never commented on speculation on players.
Doug said the answer to 3 is Victor Torp
4. There is a lack of stock availability in the club shop on certain lines, poor range of winter clothing. Is this something the club is looking to improve going forward? (CCSWSC)
Tynan advised with Doug coming in as owner and Elite group going bust the club were able to bring retail back in house. Having taken this decision it’s proving very successful, no details but a commercial update may be given shortly.
The timing of these changes had an impact upon stock ordering due to the buying cycles. Doug has agreed to Tynanand Raz the super store taking some calculated risks on lines and new products. Extra investment in multiple areas is allowing the club to progress massively.
Steve C said about coats and woolly hats. Rasoul advised that a lot of the processes were done quite late to get those product lines supplied due to the timelines mentioned. Purchased 500 hats and sold out in a couple of weeks. There are Hummel bench coats that have arrived and will be available in the shop and on-line shortly. Hope to set up a Autumn, winter, spring, summer set of products.
Jim asked if there was any chance of getting his book stocked in the club shop. Rassoul said we can have a look. It was confirmed programmes are available in the club shop. Club are looking at providing e-cards that can be purchased to give as gifts, alongside physical gift cards already available.

5. In September 2023, the club unveiled the Hummel equality warm-up shirts. The communication from the club at the launch indicated that proceeds from the sale/auction of the kits worn by the players would be directed towards supporting local equality-focused projects. Is there any up-date as to which projects these proceeds will be funding? (LGBTQ+)
Jodie advised it was a Hummel initiative, they have a dedicated club LGBTQ+ day where they will give details as to how the money raised will be donated / used.

6. Would the club consider helping further promote equality-based supporter groups (Proud Sky Blues; LGBTQ+; and the Disabled Supporters Group? (LGBTQ+)
Jodie advised that Lewis has done a great job of progressing the LGBTQ+ group and we now have an active disabled supporter’s forum that is meeting regularly. The Club already promotes LGBTQ+ and will continue to do so in the future
7. As discussed previously at this meeting, the large bottleneck of fans at full time walking towards Windinghouse lane and Jimmy Hill way is an accident waiting to happen. Are there plans to address this? (CCSWSC)
8. Accident waiting to happen using the underpass into the shopping centre after the game. The lighting has improved, can the curbs be removed? Any other safety considerations being considered? Moving the temporary fence to widen the area would help? (Sky Blue Talk)
Answer to 7 - Colin wanted to highlight that if there are safety issues these should be passed on in real time so raise them with him and he will be a conduit with the club.
Dave advised as the season has progressed with increased fanswe have been aware of an issue with Judds Lane and getting over the roundabout. Have discussed with police, council. Tried a road closure for the Birmingham City game which was helpful but it is hugely expensive and hugely annoying toother non football traffic.
Ongoing assessment that John will be getting involved in to help the situation. He’s watched from the control room. The major problem is people crossing the road outside of the crossing areas. This is the area we need to try and negate.
John advised Dave has passed him the information. John wants to look at this with the arena over the next few games. We want the stadium sold out 31-32000, this is on his remit to do this as safely as possible.
Answer to 8 – Dave has raised the issue of widening the temporary fence with the arena in the past, it is an obvious quick solution. It hasn’t been done. The Underpasses issues were raised 6-8 weeks ago and the issue was passed by Dave to the arena. Ownership of the underpass was a real issue between the owner, council and national rail, but once confirmed, improvements to lighting were made.
Pete raised the issue of removing curbs from this area as people are mis-stepping.
Steve raised the issue of the police leading Leicester fans from outside the footprint back towards the arena and the Leicester fans were very aggressive. Pete agreed to email Dave outside of the meeting.

9. Only opening certain doors at half time for smokers is causing congestion in the concourse resulting in difficulty accessing the toilets and bars. Last season, more doors were open and bars outside were available which eased the congestion considerably. Is this something the club can look into? (CCSWSC)
There was a real issue with having a number of doors open for smokers with lots of smoke coming into the concourse especially in the Family zone. The club have had emails of thanks for limiting the number of doors open and only one complaint.
10. What plans are there for organising queuing around entering the stadium to blocks 14 -33? (especially the lower number turnstiles) (Corporate Area & Sky BlueTalk)
Tynan advised the outside bar areas were initially open right up until kick off. Stadium owner now shuts the outside hospitality area 30 mins before kick off. Pete pushed back to say his supporters are saying 40 minutes to get in and unsafe moving so many people around the area. John will take a close look at this over the next few games and look at signage, advice and guidance so we take a multi-faceted approach to improving things. The arena are looking at clear signage.
11. Currently, Blocks 2-4 have no direct access. Why is this? Supporters are having to enter through the family zone blocks. (Corporate Area & Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised there are not dedicated turnstiles for those two blocks, they were never built in the stadium. A fire door was used until circa 2010. The correct turnstiles to get into these blocks is the North stand corner – Family zone
12. Contact details for supporters clubs. I could not find any details in the match day programmes. Is this something that could be incorporated? (CCSWSC)
Dave confirmed there is a place on the CCFC website for supporters group information.
13. Are there plans to improve transportation to and from the CBS now attendances are higher? (CCSWSC)
14. How are the discussions going with the train operator on improving the train service to and from the arena? (CCSWSC)
15. Can the club work with service providers to provide dedicated shuttle buses to and from the arena to the city centre? This works well at both Stoke and Reading.(CCSWSC)
16. New COO :- Travel to the arena by bus and train plans? (Sky Blue Talk)
Dave advised that the club have not pursued any answers to this currently. Increased numbers are not finding it difficult to get to the game and increasing numbers are coming to the game over the season.
The issue with the train operator has not changed from the one last time. Club met with Andy Street and Chief executive of the council, separately, and raised it with them. The issue is platform availability at Coventry station. This won’t change quickly.
John advised it’s something that the club need to look at in terms of reducing traffic and making it possible to improve bus services from and to the arena and town
 

Sky Blue Pete

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17. Fans from other areas of the stadium are finding their way into Club Coventry post- match for drinks etc. Can this be addressed for future games? (Corporate Area)
18. Torn jeans and replica shirts are still on display pre and post match (worn by adults). Can the stewards be encouraged to enforce the dress code more effectively? (Corporate Area)
Tynan advised that they have introduced coloured wrist bands for the various corporate areas but some people do find there ways into areas that they shouldn’t have access to, but a lot less than previously. They are working on it and will continue to do so.

19. The Corporate areas have improved markedly with their offerings and with bar service. However, half-time coffee is difficult to get as there is not enough serving points, especially in Club Coventry. Can this be addressed? (Corporate Area)
Tynan confirmed this will be addressed.
20. Are there plans to sell the balcony seating at a cheaper price? Linked with executive boxes and premium prices – how has it gone to-date? Early plans for 2024/25?
Tynan advised that the balcony was a premium restaurant – the lounge was supposed to hold 1000 people on tables of 10. They’ve done an event with 800 and it was too many, both practically and for fire regulations. There are 1100 seats on the balcony. The restaurant can hold 1100 standing but if you take up half the restaurant for seating there is a surplus of seats on the balcony. There is no general admission access without going through corporate.
It was tried a few seasons ago but it didn’t work. They do sell sports bar packages for the balcony as this helps increase the numbers in the crowd.

21. Opening of the whole ground – aims, plans under John Taylor the new COO? What are the plans to maximise home attendances? What are the clubs plans for the away end at the CBS? (Sky Blue Talk)
Covered under Doug’s update
22. What plans are there, if any, to enable junior and senior season tickets to be up-graded to an adult ticket without having to pay the full price? Have the club considered a re-sell process? (Sky Blue Talk)
Changed a couple of years ago to mean that you have to purchase a full value ticket in line with other clubs that they have spoken to
Tynan confirmed they are looking at a re-sell process, now that sell-outs are happening.
23. What are the club expectations on allowing an adult friend to use an adult season ticket where the owner is unable to attend? (Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised that while there are clear terms and conditions, we don’t think it’s unreasonable for another adult to use your adult season ticket, concession to use concession etc.
24. What is the reason for only making one block at a time available for purchase for home games? (Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised it’s about operational cost and filling blocks before moving on
Given the record season ticket numbers and the number of games moved from Saturday at 3.00pm, do the club have any plans to maintain their value? (Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised that this is where the re-sell process will come into play.
25. How are negotiations progressing for a longer lease at the CBS? (Sky Blue Talk)
Half a year into the 5 year deal – lots going on – nothing more to say on this point at this time.
26. What is the performance directors role? (Sky Blue Talk)
Answered in the main agenda
28Would be good to have some roads names after Coventry City legends (Jim Brown). Do the club think it’s a good idea? How do we take it forward?
The club absolutely agree that this is a really good idea. Colin will take this up on behalf of the supporters forum. Suggestion to write to our own local councillors but Colin will plan this.
29Vouchers released to people who went to Leeds Away game – Can this be used to make a donation to the family zone?
No, sorry it’s a logistical nightmare due to systems in place and staff resourcing – Answer from Dave B / Tynan
30The speaker system isn’t good enough, can it be improved?
The club have experienced this and have discussed this with the stadium owner. John will include this as a safety issue for an urgent resolution to be sought
 

MalcSB

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17. Fans from other areas of the stadium are finding their way into Club Coventry post- match for drinks etc. Can this be addressed for future games? (Corporate Area)
18. Torn jeans and replica shirts are still on display pre and post match (worn by adults). Can the stewards be encouraged to enforce the dress code more effectively? (Corporate Area)
Tynan advised that they have introduced coloured wrist bands for the various corporate areas but some people do find there ways into areas that they shouldn’t have access to, but a lot less than previously. They are working on it and will continue to do so.

19. The Corporate areas have improved markedly with their offerings and with bar service. However, half-time coffee is difficult to get as there is not enough serving points, especially in Club Coventry. Can this be addressed? (Corporate Area)
Tynan confirmed this will be addressed.
20. Are there plans to sell the balcony seating at a cheaper price? Linked with executive boxes and premium prices – how has it gone to-date? Early plans for 2024/25?
Tynan advised that the balcony was a premium restaurant – the lounge was supposed to hold 1000 people on tables of 10. They’ve done an event with 800 and it was too many, both practically and for fire regulations. There are 1100 seats on the balcony. The restaurant can hold 1100 standing but if you take up half the restaurant for seating there is a surplus of seats on the balcony. There is no general admission access without going through corporate.
It was tried a few seasons ago but it didn’t work. They do sell sports bar packages for the balcony as this helps increase the numbers in the crowd.

21. Opening of the whole ground – aims, plans under John Taylor the new COO? What are the plans to maximise home attendances? What are the clubs plans for the away end at the CBS? (Sky Blue Talk)
Covered under Doug’s update
22. What plans are there, if any, to enable junior and senior season tickets to be up-graded to an adult ticket without having to pay the full price? Have the club considered a re-sell process? (Sky Blue Talk)
Changed a couple of years ago to mean that you have to purchase a full value ticket in line with other clubs that they have spoken to
Tynan confirmed they are looking at a re-sell process, now that sell-outs are happening.
23. What are the club expectations on allowing an adult friend to use an adult season ticket where the owner is unable to attend? (Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised that while there are clear terms and conditions, we don’t think it’s unreasonable for another adult to use your adult season ticket, concession to use concession etc.
24. What is the reason for only making one block at a time available for purchase for home games? (Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised it’s about operational cost and filling blocks before moving on
Given the record season ticket numbers and the number of games moved from Saturday at 3.00pm, do the club have any plans to maintain their value? (Sky Blue Talk)
Tynan advised that this is where the re-sell process will come into play.
25. How are negotiations progressing for a longer lease at the CBS? (Sky Blue Talk)
Half a year into the 5 year deal – lots going on – nothing more to say on this point at this time.
26. What is the performance directors role? (Sky Blue Talk)
Answered in the main agenda
28Would be good to have some roads names after Coventry City legends (Jim Brown). Do the club think it’s a good idea? How do we take it forward?
The club absolutely agree that this is a really good idea. Colin will take this up on behalf of the supporters forum. Suggestion to write to our own local councillors but Colin will plan this.
29Vouchers released to people who went to Leeds Away game – Can this be used to make a donation to the family zone?
No, sorry it’s a logistical nightmare due to systems in place and staff resourcing – Answer from Dave B / Tynan
30The speaker system isn’t good enough, can it be improved?
The club have experienced this and have discussed this with the stadium owner. John will include this as a safety issue for an urgent resolution to be sought
I’m not sure that a re- sell scheme for STs when matches have been moved to more inconvenient times for many people is really an answer to that part of QW24
 

mark82

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I’m not sure that a re- sell scheme for STs when matches have been moved to more inconvenient times for many people is really an answer to that part of QW24
I'm not sure what the alternative is, to be fair. They can't stop games being moved for TV.
 

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