Probably as expected ish. The economy and healthcare always top for all sides. The economy should be on the turn by the election but public services and in particular nhs waiting lists, will cost the Tories
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Probably as expected ish. The economy and healthcare always top for all sides. The economy should be on the turn by the election but public services and in particular nhs waiting lists, will cost the Tories
fernandopartridge
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that Labour is massively over estimating the importance of tax and spend to voters
fernandopartridge
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I think the caller was saying that was between two people. The point is though, if Rachel Johnson thinks that isn't very much - wait until she hears how much disposable income an average household as.
Evo1883
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I mean 600 between the household disposable a week is fucking loads , the caller is a clown
Especially if he and she have car plans/Electric etc, subscription to gym, country club,etc , holiday factored in?
Evo1883
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Doesn't matter really wingy , it's the UK average wage alone disposable, over 30k to live doing what you choose after all bills are paid ..
fernandopartridge
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What's the conclusion then?
Evo1883
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That the caller and the host are clueless wankers , as I stated..
It's a huge amount of disposable income
rob9872
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Depends what you call bills. If it still has to pay to run a car and counts tv subscriptions, mobile phones, broadband as non essential bills, holidays, clothes etc all to come out then certainly a lot less. Appreciate it's more than most, but not a million miles from where we are and running two cars, following the city and a couple of holidays a year, doesn't leave much over.
Evo1883
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It's top 5% , if people struggle on 100k they are living an expensive lifestyle
I suppose it's relative.
I haven't listened to the interview, but if someone on 100k is saying they can't do some of the things they used to do, for financial reasons, then I'm sure they're being genuine.
Same as someone on 30k can't do some of the things they used to do.
It's just those things are probably very, very different!
But if the 100k person is saying it's tough to put the food on the table then clearly that's a load of shit.
I haven't listened to the interview, but if someone on 100k is saying they can't do some of the things they used to do, for financial reasons, then I'm sure they're being genuine.
Same as someone on 30k can't do some of the things they used to do.
It's just those things are probably very, very different!
But if the 100k person is saying it's tough to put the food on the table then clearly that's a load of shit.
chiefdave
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There's been a few people saying stuff like this recently. Sure they'd all be happy if the government announced a huge increase in minimum wage and benefit payments
Grendel
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Of course it's not a poverty wage, I don't think anyone would suggest it is. I'm certainly not!
shmmeee
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It doesn’t grant you a top 5% lifestyle tho and that’s the complaint. Wages are shit across the board. People on 100k should probably be on £200k, people on £30k should probably be on £60k. We’re all getting shafted and no one on PAYE is to blame.
skybluetony176
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It’s hard to have sympathy for households earning £100K a year but the fact is like most households pre Truss they were probably living within their means. When Truss shocked the economy with her budget it made mortgages unaffordable for many households as all of a sudden even people on £100K a year were effected as their mortgage probably reflected their income, same as anyone else with a mortgage under a certain age.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yes, July is going to be fun for us when our fixed rate comes to an end.
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s beyond the peak
jimmyhillsfanclub
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People who have been on large incomes for many years but still have mortgages (and then moan about them) do my fucking head in......
Financially illiterate morons.
Financially illiterate morons.
Sky Blue Pete
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Some empathy might be useful lol
shmmeee
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You’ll be OK. It’s roughly back where it was. Mine went up by over 50% at its worse. Proper shitty six months or so.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Not for the people I'm talking about. My mates sister as an example...... Shes had a basic salary of over 100k for more than 10 years, gets bonuses on top but still has an interest only mortgage......and whined like fuck when the interest rates finally went up. Fuck off.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep I agree with that
I suppose it’s the imbalance that comes when middle class or upper class people suffer financial issues as opposed to those in our society on minimum wage or zero contracts
It’s like the Tory that said you shouldn’t need to use foodbanks if you managed your money properly?
Don’t know the answer but there needs a huge reset in property
Think the year of jubilee referred to in the Old Testament is a good idea but obviously completely impractical
shmmeee
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I’m increasingly of the belief house prices are accountable for a large portion of this country’s problems. So I think you fix it by building fucking loads of houses.
Let's dilly dally Bank of England uneducated retard!
fernandopartridge
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I agree with that, I think the issue is wider though and extends to all property both domestic and commercial. Property used as an investment rather than investing in something productive is a disaster. The problem is, unravelling it all is going to hurt a lot of people and institutions I think.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep that would
rob9872
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In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.
Sign up for a year deal?
Brighton Sky Blue
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The issue of private landlords collecting more housing that they don’t need is the elephant in the room.
Co's there's no alternative?
No not really just a less productive one thanks to Gov't sweetener led initiative?
Would it? The housing that would be freed up by keeping migrants out (which comes with its own costs) is not going to be automatically desirable to native Brits.