Matt smith
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5/6 more games and it’s half a season of continual decline, not exactly a blip then is it
Poll: Robins In or Out? Part 2 (3 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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With Southgate in charge of England it became obvious even to him. Most cases aren't that clear cut
Evo1883
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Matt smith
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Just a coincidence mate.His last post was the same day you joined , massive massive massive coincidence
Great_Expectations
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In Robins second stint Liam Kelly for me but there are at least a few more who’ve played from league 2 and don’t look out of plane in the championshipwww.skybluestalk.co.uk
Post #26 mate. Maybe you said something earlier mate but that's when I first mentioned it.
Honestly no idea - can’t remember.
I wasn’t intending to claim ownership by the way, more making the point a few of us thought it as it’s just odd!
Bit ironic you finding a post from three years ago to support your point though. I mean, who does that sound like….!!*
*(I’m only messing!)
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Before the Blackburn game I was thinking of starting a thread saying I'd worked out what the problem was - Grendel hadn't posted a taxi thread yet!
@Grendel - you know what you have to do...
Johhny Blue
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He has’nt suddenly become a bad manager overnight. He’ll fix it. If he thinks individuals are lazy or not working for whatever reason they’ll be gone. I don’t want to ride the manager merry go round for the next 5 years
Evo1883
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I'm sure that makes our fans look extremely level headed
embarrassing for some I'm sureBut that's not how seasons work is it and I remember people on here telling me we had relegation form for the last 40 games or something just before we went on that amazing run to finish top 6.
SeaSeeEffCee
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Thought their segment was quite poor to be honest. They don’t seem to have actually watched us much and based a lot of their analysis on ‘Simms and Wright aren’t converting their chances and that’s the main issue’ and an idea that the performances hadn’t been that bad because the underlying numbers are ok. They were spot on about how mad it is to chop and change the keeper though.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I have always said he needs to be given 10 games.
Lose that next game and it's relegation form. 6 defeats in 10 will be disastrous
Win and it's a disappointing start but we will have taken 6 points from the last 3 matches so some small signs of improvement . It's a tricky one. We've been here before.
Lose that next game and it's relegation form. 6 defeats in 10 will be disastrous
Win and it's a disappointing start but we will have taken 6 points from the last 3 matches so some small signs of improvement . It's a tricky one. We've been here before.
shmmeee
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Such a shame you can’t sack players.
Seems the recruitment team have really fucked I’m the squad rebuild and it’s already cost Ady his job and likely Robins too.
Brighton Sky Blue
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No offence chief but if we’re building the squad around you then we really are fucked.
shmmeee
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Stick me in goal, at least I take up more space than Wilson and am only slightly worse at diving. Plus I’ll keep wasting time until I’m booked.
BlueSkiesForever
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I too don’t want to ride the manger merry-go-round but at some point enough is enough and maybe getting a new manager will give us some direction or style of playing. I think if by Christmas we’re in the same position then I think Robins should then go, there’s still plenty of time for him to turn it round, I just don’t want for us to wait until we’re in relegation battle late on in the season for us to sack him (if that did happen).
As you say, he hasn’t suddenly become a bad manager overnight but maybe it’s been happening for a few months now, ever since Lawrence left around March time. I’m not saying he’s the sole cause of us performing poorly but maybe the tiredness of the players towards the end of the season, Lawrence leaving, Viveash leaving, having a new performance director in, completely new set of coaches in etc, maybe it’s all took its toll bit by bit and now for some reason Robins is out of ideas as to how to get us going again
skybluecam
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There must be conversations going on behind the scenes about what Robins thinks is going wrong, what he plans to do about it, and how long he thinks that will take.
Personally I think they're much bigger than just poor form, the team isn't working tactically. So I'd expect him to have a solution to that but I'm not sure he does.
Personally I think they're much bigger than just poor form, the team isn't working tactically. So I'd expect him to have a solution to that but I'm not sure he does.
Matt smith
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Recruitment has been very poor, well done dean
BlueSkiesForever
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I agree, it’s more than just form or which team sheet is the best, there’s something completely wrong with the tactics. When was the last time you saw one of our strikers play right on the shoulder of the defender and a through ball get played into them, or even a set of silky passes playing around the oppositions defence, or even strikers/wingers playing high up the pitch and pulling defenders out of position?
It’s like our attackers just stand there, try and do a fake shot or step-over and expect the defence to part like the Red Sea. The fact nearly all of them do it tells me it must be the way they’ve been told to set up, we hardly ever see a through ball attempted or the striker trying to make runs in behind, trying to lose their man. It’s like we’re playing chess with a ball rather than football, it’s not even exciting at times, and I just cannot buy the argument that it’s the fault of all of the players.
Otis
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11 very good individuals doesn't automatically equate to a good team.
It's not working because players either seem half-arsed, unsure of their roles, confused by the set up etc.
It's all disjointed.
Our main problem is a shortage in the middle of the park. Allen can be outmuscled against the more physical sides, the jury is still very much out on Torp, which just leaves Eccles and Sheaf and Sheaf has clearly been struggling with injury and coming back from injury.
We seem a bit top heavy up top, but bereft in the middle of the park.
Obviously defensive errors are costing us as well, but I do think if we had have managed to bring a good midfielder in, things would be looking a lot rosier right now.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It isn’t Dean Austin who was adamant that we should sign Kitching at the expense of a loan CM.
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Cally Fedora
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Robins is a good manager. We have good players. But you see good “on paper” teams losing all the time. Something in the mix has gone wrong. It’s not tactics/formations/systems, it’s mindset. None of us know what has changed. A bad apple in the mix? A dislike of coaches? Cliques forming in the squad? The problem is we risk throwing the baby out with the bath water by laying it all at Robins door without knowing the real reason.
The owner would hold some responsibility for the obvious shortfall in defensive and midfield area's!
steve cooper
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I posted on the Swansea match thread that Robins should sort things out or go. Got laughed at but now many people are saying the same thing.
So now I'm going to stick my neck out again and say I think MR will sort things out, starting with a win tomorrow.
So now I'm going to stick my neck out again and say I think MR will sort things out, starting with a win tomorrow.
Otis
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Been a long time coming.
Wyken Sky Blue
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Well as a Premier League manager, you probably know better than most on this forum!
Contrary!
Covcraig@bury
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FFS . Close this thread . 
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Hobo
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The biggest problem we have is the fans who inflated our expectation levels. No sorry their expectations levels.
They need to remember that 5 year Premier League package was a goal, an ambition and not a promise. Also we are barely into it.
We are misfiring but it is small margins. Not as much wrong as people think, a lot is confidence, we need to scuff a couple of results over the line.
They need to remember that 5 year Premier League package was a goal, an ambition and not a promise. Also we are barely into it.
We are misfiring but it is small margins. Not as much wrong as people think, a lot is confidence, we need to scuff a couple of results over the line.
Matt smith
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Have the fans really inflated expectation levels?
or have the club through serious investment, three out of 5 and promotional/commercialisation around getting to the premier league
probably a bit of both
bigfatronssba
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You can't have slogans like "Dream big, aim high" and have the owner saying "we aim to be in the play offs for 3 of the next 5 seasons" and for fans not to increase expectations.
Nor can you be one of the biggest spenders in the league and not have expectations.
The fans were right to have high expectations. Robins himself would agree that the start of the season has not been acceptable
That’s the spirit