Greg Clarke admits he doesn't know if Sisu will build stadium (6 Viewers)

AFCCOVENTRY

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Coventry City head for Northampton: just how did it come to this?
Relegated to League One, penniless and now homeless, the Sky Blues are preparing for their first 'home' game at Sixfields


A group of Coventry City fans make their feelings clear about the club's owners, Sisu. Photograph: Adam Fradgley/Action Images
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Coventry City will play their first home match of the season on Sunday in Northampton, 34 miles away from the Ricoh Arena, which was built only eight years ago. Supporters who have seen their club torn apart by bitter and petty disputes in recent years use epithets such as embarrassing, laughable and shambolic to describe their current plight. They are right: Rome is burning and plenty of people are fiddling.

The Sky Blues' sorry demise is a depressing tale of hedge funds, stadium revenue and complex company law. Some would argue it is the epitome of everything wrong with the modern game, where the fan is an afterthought behind profit, assets and stakeholders. Either way, it is perhaps the most disheartening of all downfalls in recent times because personal vendettas and rancorous relationships rather than overspending have left the situation at an alarming impasse, with a modern, state-of-the-art stadium facing the possibility of not staging a professional match for at least three years.

When contacted by the Guardian this week, the Coventry City ticket office claimed their phone lines had been "extremely busy" with requests for Sunday's game against Bristol City at Northampton Town's Sixfields Stadium. However, the figures paint a different picture. As of Friday morning the Sky Blues had sold only 491 season tickets for the current campaign, with a "guaranteed attendance" of just 1,200 for their opening home match in League One this season, of which 400 are for Bristol City fans.

The Sky Blue Trust has been vociferous in its protests against the groundshare. It organised a 5,000-strong march through the city, while blue ribbons have been put up around Coventry and will only be taken down when the club returns.

"Going to Northampton is just one nail in the coffin of this club," said the trust spokesman, Jan Mokrzycki. "Once fans stop going it is very hard to get them back and I think the club has been shocked by the vehemence of the opposition to the move."

Arena Coventry Limited, made up by Coventry city council and the Higgs Charity, is the company that owns the Ricoh Arena, which the club moved to in 2006 after leaving Highfield Road where they played in the Premier League up until 2001. The club were £50m in debt during the botched move to the Ricoh and could not afford a stake in the stadium, signing a deal as tenants that committed them to paying £1.3m in annual rent.

Sisu took control of the club in 2007 and relations with ACL have deteriorated since then, with the Mayfair-based hedge fund refusing to pay the high rent in April last year. There have been offers from ACL to reduce the rent – down to £400,000 per annum and even to £150,000 – in an attempt to salvage the situation, but the club has rejected them and claims that it deserves access to the matchday revenue at the stadium as a matter of urgency due to new financial fair play rules, which as a tenant it is not currently entitled to.

However, Mr Justice Males ruled in the high court this week – when an application from Sisu, that accused the council of acting unlawfully when buying out ACL's £14m mortgage debt in January, was thrown out – that the club "had caused rent to be withheld as a means of exerting pressure in their commercial negotiations", calling into question Sisu's intentions when refusing to pay for use of the Ricoh.

Last week part of the club, Coventry City Football Club Limited, was facing liquidation after it entered administration last season. A company voluntary arrangement was rejected by ACL, a creditor, meaning the club was docked 10 points by the Football League for a second successive season.

The administrator, Paul Appleton, appointed by Sisu when CCFC Ltd entered administration in March, selected Otium Entertainment Limited as the preferred bidder to take over the club during the process, although there was also a bid from the American multi-millionaire businessman Preston Haskell IV, introduced to the club by the former vice-chairman Gary Hoffman, a lifelong Sky Blues fan. Otium was founded by three former Coventry City directors who all have connections to Sisu, which is headed by Joy Seppala, meaning the club is effectively being run by the same personnel.

The chief executive, Tim Fisher, a banker specialising in financially distressed companies who was appointed in December 2011, agreed a deal with Northampton to stage Coventry's home matches at Sixfields for three years, potentially five, during which time the club claims it will build a new stadium in the Coventry area.

The club has agreed a £1m bond with the Football League with assurances that it will return to Coventry and says it is assessing a site at the Brandon speedway stadium and another in the south west of the city. However, the League chairman, Greg Clarke, admits he "does not know" if they will really build a new ground.

Asked whether he believed the club would build a new stadium, Clarke said: "I don't know, they haven't told me whether they will or not. Everybody is posturing to get a deal, people say things to create impressions. Unreasonable things are happening. We have no power over the stadium owners or the club to tell them how to run their businesses. At some point there will have to be a compromise.

"I can understand why the Coventry fans are outraged. If I was a fan I would be incandescent. But what would have happened if we had refused them permission to share grounds and they could not afford to play?"

The League has been criticised for its role in the saga. The Sky Blue Trust has labelled the organisation "toothless" while Hoffman, head of the Football Foundation charity that works alongside the Football Association, the Premier League and the government, implored it to do more.

Hoffman said: "I think the FA should ask whether the Football League is acting within its rules, because I'm not sure that it is. I'm not happy about the way the football authorities have dealt with this.. If there was simply no other option on the table then I could understand it, but there clearly is – to play at the Ricoh at a reduced price."

Mokrzycki, who revealed that early discussions about the emergence of a phoenix club have taken place, said: "The Football League has just sat on the sidelines and said 'it's not up to us'. It's sad for Coventry but it's sad for football that the League has shown itself to be so toothless."

Coventry's latest manager, Steven Pressley, was appointed in March but was only able to sign his first player this week due to a transfer embargo imposed on the club. The Sky Blues previously signed promising players and sold them on at a profit, with Scott Dann, Keiren Westwood, Aron Gunarsson and Ben Turner all departing the club and going on to play at a higher level in recent seasons.

That successful policy was abandoned by Sisu, which admits that mistakes were made during its early tenure, when it ploughed significant funds into the club but could not prevent relegation from the Championship.

However, the decision to relocate to Northampton appears to be the nadir in the club's steady decline. Described by Fisher as "a commercial risk" and by Hoffman as "commercial suicide", the club believes that building a new stadium will provide financial benefits in the long term.

Yet the short-term damage could be catastrophic. The attendance for Coventry's first home game last season was 12,621. On Sunday that figure will be cut by approximately 10,000 and the majority of fans instead plan to attend a charity match at the Ricoh, where former players including Darren Huckerby and Noel Whelan will feature alongside local celebrities.

The club insists that it needs matchday revenue to comply with financial fair play, yet the shortfall in gate income given the decrease in ticket sales will be significant, while it has been estimated that the police costs for Coventry's home matches will cost Northampton taxpayers £70,000 per season.

ACL optimistically claims that the Ricoh will not be turned into a white elephant without the football club. The Higgs Charity wants to sell its stake in the stadium and the head of Coventry city council, Ann Lucas, would not rule out a sale of its stake when asked by the Guardian.

In reality, the club needs the stadium and the Ricoh Arena needs a football team. Both sides appear to have long forgotten this, as the Sky Blues edge closer towards the blackest of black holes.
 

bigfatronssba

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New stadium in the south west of the city?

Good luck getting planning permission on Kenilworth Road.
 

Noggin

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Asked whether he believed the club would build a new stadium, Clarke said: "I don't know, they haven't told me whether they will or not. Everybody is posturing to get a deal, people say things to create impressions. Unreasonable things are happening. We have no power over the stadium owners or the club to tell them how to run their businesses. At some point there will have to be a compromise.

"I can understand why the Coventry fans are outraged. If I was a fan I would be incandescent. But what would have happened if we had refused them permission to share grounds and they could not afford to play?"

Seriously Seriously WTF, Greg Clarke you are an absolute disgrace.
 

ArchieLittle

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Here's an idea Mr Clarke, the FL could have told Appleton "no way will we give golden share to anyone not playing in Coventry".
 

dadgad

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Here's an idea Mr Clarke, the FL could have told Appleton "no way will we give golden share to anyone not playing in Coventry".

PRECISELY. Can we not get a fighting fund together and sue these bastards? Utterly disgraceful.
The day the FL is closed down and there is proper governance of football cannot come soon enough.
 

rondog1973

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By what Clarke has said there, he has either:

A) Sanctioned a permanent relocation.

B) Sanctioned the extinction of this football club.
 

dadgad

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This could get nasty, such incompetence will only fuel the justifiable anger that people feel.......
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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This is a bloody disgrace.. the figure head, leader of the football league admits he has no idea if CCFC will return to the City of its name. I thought this was an obligation defined within its own rules.
Words fail me.....surely this has to be challenged?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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This is quite a shocking revelation by Clarke. The reason we are in Northampton is completely down to their poor poor decisions.

The football league needs to be taken to court on breaking its own rules on relocation of football clubs.

Time for acl, ccc and the fans to take them to court.

There is no guarantee the club will return.
 

James Smith

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And by saying that he has just ushered in Franchise Football to the UK. What a joke they are.
 

Ashdown1

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Greg Clarke...................lifelong Leicester City fan...............culpable incompetent waste of oxygen !!
 

chiefdave

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this is unbelievable. every detail that's revealed the league just look more and more incompetent to the point we're out now where I have to think there is more to it as it's quite simply not possible for someone to be that bad at their job. if I employed someone with no qualifications on minimum wage who botched a job up as bad as Greg Clarke has they'd have been fired long ago.

SBT should issue a statement pointing out all the FL laws that have been broken and all the factual inaccuracies coming from Greg Clarke and call for his resignation, see if they can get it into some of the papers.
 

saltaire bantam

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There have been all sorts of twists and turns since I've been reading this forum but if there is one thing guaranteed to happen, it's SISU NOT building a new stadium.That's about the only thing that is crystal clear.
 

deanocity3

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he has said this in the daily telegraph this week
But the thoughts of the Football League chairman, Greg Clarke, were partly focused on the plight of another famous League 1 club, Coventry City, whose own 130th anniversary celebrations next week will be muted at best after Friday’s 10-points deduction.

As he admired the passing football of David Weir’s neat Sheffield United side, and the well-worked goals of the excellent Kevin McDonald and Harry Maguire, Clarke reflected on Coventry’s travails. He had a message for Sky Blues fans.

“I see Coventry as a victory because that’s another fine old football club that is still alive,’’ said Clarke.

“Now I am absolutely savagely angry that the stadium owners and the owners of the football club can’t agree to keep the club in Coventry. We’ve done everything we can behind the scenes to say ‘look guys, you are two grown-up groups of people, one of you owns the ground, the other owns the football club, you both need each other.

“Let’s find a compromise, make it work, bury the hatchet in the name of the people of Coventry’. But they’ve just fallen out so it’s nearly impossible to get an agreement. It’s a huge clash, which has built up over a long time over the rent of the stadium.


“Coventry City will be back in Coventry. The Football League is still encouraging people to see commonsense and come up with a plan to take Coventry City back to the city and its fans. I’m hoping it will be the current stadium, the Ricoh. Who wants an empty stadium in Coventry?

"Of course, it’s embarrassing for the League. Everyone thinks the League has infinite power and we can tell the clubs what to do. But these are sovereign independent businesses, governed by company law and insolvency law and we have to obey it just as they do. If two independent corporate entities want to fall out, there is nothing the Football League can do about it.

“The problem with the Fit and Proper Person (owners’) Test is it requires people to have done things that are seen as wrong or illegal or unethical.

All these people are obeying the law. We can’t arbitrarily decide when we like the law and don’t like it.

“When I was interviewed to be chairman, they (the League) asked me what would be the most important thing. I said keeping the clubs alive; we are merely the stewards of a heritage that goes back 125 years. The people of Barnsley, Portsmouth, Coventry, Accrington deserve a football club to pass on to their children and grandchildren.

“Our job is to not let terrible things happen that deprive communities of their clubs which is why we have pushed Financial Fair Play hard to get costs under control and why we are driving our central revenues hard so that we can keep our clubs alive. It keeps me awake at night. Always. We came really close to losing Portsmouth.

“I went to bed one night thinking ‘it’s over – Portsmouth will lose their football club’. But we got up the next morning, dusted ourselves down and had another go and we found a way.

"I don’t want to take the credit away from the people of Portsmouth who put their hands in their pocket but the work the Football League had to do behind the scenes to help that happen is legion. We felt so good when we got that over the line.’’

Surely fan trusts are the future? “I worry about supporters owning clubs,’’ replied Clarke. “Not because they don’t deserve it. But it’s like banks. If a bank doesn’t have enough capital to survive a crisis, bad things happen.

It’s the same with supporters. When they get relegated, or fall out with the manager and have to pay him off and some big cash crisis, supporters can only put their hands in the pockets so often.

“What I want to see is empowered supporters. Exeter are a great example: fan-owned club, well run, good directors, good board, good fans, run it within their means, don’t do anything daft. But also you have good owners who do it the right way, you have good owners who put fans on the board.

When I was chairman of Leicester City, we had a member of the fans’ trust on our board and he did a great job. I’m completely open to the fans’ model but I don’t think it works every time.’’
 

skybluetony176

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clueless and incompetent

does he not realise all he had to do was call shitsu's bluff, he has played right into the hands of a group of companies who couldn't pass the fit and proper test and confirmed that the FL are open to have the piss taken out of them as long as they can fill their fixture list for the sponsors and TV companies,. what a complete puppet.
 

Monners

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This is nothiig that I didn't already know - but to actually see it in print..! How can he live with himself All this "we nearly lost Portsmouth.... the FL worked and.. sleepless nights" bullshit is incredible. Please - aybody going to Sixfields on Sunday can you reconsider. We are in the national spotlight for one game only, so at the very least stay away for one game after reading this.
 
I have said on a previous thread that a speculative person may come to a conclusion that the position Joy Seppala holds in the City of London may have had some bearing on those people within the FL and the FA in bending the rules in the way they have. On the other hand, this may be a load of pony :confused:

You choose :thinking about:
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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I have said on a previous thread that a speculative person may come to a conclusion that the position Joy Seppala holds in the City of London may have had some bearing on those people within the FL and the FA in bending the rules in the way they have. On the other hand, this may be a load of pony :confused:

You choose :thinking about:

I have to admit.. I had never considered a conspiracy theory before....but?
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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I have said on a previous thread that a speculative person may come to a conclusion that the position Joy Seppala holds in the City of London may have had some bearing on those people within the FL and the FA in bending the rules in the way they have. On the other hand, this may be a load of pony :confused:

You choose :thinking about:

Take over panel? Shes taking over the Fl
 

saxon_exile

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New stadium in the south west of the city?

Good luck getting planning permission on Kenilworth Road.
"IN the south west of the city" or just "south west of the city"? Plenty of room on the Royal Show ground at Stoneleigh now that they don't hold the Royal Show there any more and will never again use all the space they've got. And lots of carparking around there too.
 

The CableGuy

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Asked whether he believed the club would build a new stadium, Clarke said: "I don't know, they haven't told me whether they will or not."

Jesus fooking Christ. I've read some nonsense from SISU over the summer, but this takes the biscuit.

We will eradicate the SISU infestation from what's left of CCFC.

And then, Football League, we will deal with you.

The Sky Blue Army Remembers. We will not forget this betrayal. You are not fit nor proper to run football in this country.

Its my Birthday on Sunday. I don't feel like celebrating, my team are playing 34 miles away.
 

chiefdave

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it was very very simple for the football league. refuse any application to play outside the city.

he says they can't get involved in business but at Pompey they refused to issue the share to anyone other than the supporters trust even when there were other offers that would bring a better return for creditors.

also I don't understand why, if Ltd no longer exists, he has to give the share to the administrators preferred bidder. If Ltd is liquidated they can't be buying it so surely that is no irrelevant.
 

chiefdave

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"IN the south west of the city" or just "south west of the city"? Plenty of room on the Royal Show ground at Stoneleigh now that they don't hold the Royal Show there any more and will never again use all the space they've got. And lots of carparking around there too.

Think someone took a 100 year lease Stoneleigh to turn it into some sort of agricultural business centre so that might not be an option and would it be classed as countryside? could be big planning issues if so.
 

saxon_exile

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I'm sure they could come up with some sort of dual use stadium that could also host showjumping or something, to keep the country link going.
 

edgy

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Try and read this quote from Clarke from a different angle.

He says he doesn't know whether SISU will build a new stadium. He then says its all posture from both sides. At no point does he say that he doesn't believe we'll return to Coventry.

That to me isn't saying we'll never return to the city. That's saying he thinks we may well be heading back to the Ricoh once one party give up.
 

chiefdave

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Try and read this quote from Clarke from a different angle.

He says he doesn't know whether SISU will build a new stadium. He then says its all posture from both sides. At no point does he say that he doesn't believe we'll return to Coventry.

That to me isn't saying we'll never return to the city. That's saying he thinks we may well be heading back to the Ricoh once one party give up.

I think it reads more as 'I haven't got a bloody clue what's going on but Tim has told me everything will be OK and there's no other option'
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Why would Leicester fan Clarke give a damn? For a figure in such an influential position to still hold the misguided belief that this is actually about a club not being able to afford rent is as mind boggling as it is unsurprising. He and his organisation are just as complicit as the thumb twiddlers SISU and ACL.
 

georgehudson

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should be more like Greg Clarke is having a problem identifying his left from his right,
do the right thing Greg & rid us of this oufit,
PUSB
 

hackneyfox

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Try and read this quote from Clarke from a different angle.

He says he doesn't know whether SISU will build a new stadium. He then says its all posture from both sides. At no point does he say that he doesn't believe we'll return to Coventry.

That to me isn't saying we'll never return to the city. That's saying he thinks we may well be heading back to the Ricoh once one party give up.

Thank fuck, some common sense.

Hysterical rubbish about Clark and the FL, I read both pieces, isn't he agreeing with all of you that both sides are acting like cunts and you've ben shafted. You all know that they are both out to screw each other now so an agreement seem impossible until someone new takes over acl or sisu.

Crap about him not caring because he's a Leicester fan is just that, it would only apply if I were in his position.
 

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