olderskyblue
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The KCIC campaign is relevant when CCFC play in Northampton. I don't think, and I may be wrong, that we can force the league to let us play all our away games in Coventry.....
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The KCIC campaign is relevant when CCFC play in Northampton. I don't think, and I may be wrong, that we can force the league to let us play all our away games in Coventry.....
Sky Blue Sheepy
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I wasn't arguing with you on that - agreeing with you in fact (rare on here I know)
My point is the NOPM campaign is supposed to be to get our club back in Coventry. If you don't believe it's Coventry City anymore then I don't see the point in going.
skybluebeduff
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Who is Juggy and Ian. And do I need to care about 2 fans?
ccfcmustang
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The FL wouldnt act because they have already said that all they want is for the team to fulfill the fixtures, why wouod they care if there is no fans there?
Sterling Archer
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Anyone who actually thinks we are now a franchise club obviously doesn't know what "franchise" actually means.
Not really sure what you are not getting. For most fans it is quite simple we are 100% opposed to the club playing its home matches away from Coventry. For a lot of us even if the club won a 100 games on the trot we simply wont go on principle. However I believe most fans don't yet believe the club is lost forever, and cling to the hope that they may yet return to Coventry. Most fans don't blame the players, as they have no choice, and they all clearly want to play in Coventry. So going to away games is away of showing a support for the team not the owners.
You may as well ask fans travelling to Northampton for 'home' games, how conditional is there support? Lets be honest going to Sixfields is no real hardship for some fans, what would happen if the club was to move further away, 40/50/60 miles would they still go? What would happen if a few months down the line Fisher says because of 'planning' difficulties the exile may now be 6/7/8 years, would they still go, and if not why not?
Whether its actual or factual it feels like it and that's enough for most people !
ampthill_sba
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Seyeclops666
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Exactly how and when have SISU proved anything of the sort??
ccfcmustang
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There is an interview with Greg Clarke on the CET website, someone posted a link earlier
Seyeclops666
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hahahahahahahahaha - muppet!
ccfcmustang
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Very intelligent, mother must be so proud
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Trouble is Greg Clarke also said he was sure that the Football League had done nothing wrong then the League issue a statement hours later saying they had made errors and had known since March.
Not sure you can place too much reliance on what Mr Clarke says.
What exactly have they shown the League ? was it a bank account with in excess of £10m? Was it budgets showing crowds averaging 6000 and wage costs low? Was it a letter from SISU promising to continue to fund ? Bit like the £1m bond that the league demanded that turned out to be a promise to pay in 3 years time. The Football League have already said on several occassions that they dont have the manpower to investigate things thoroughly why should we think they have on this.
They may have shown the access to funds but that is now what about tomorrow, next month, next year..... one thing we do know is SISU are very good at moving assets around. It may be completely above board but past experience indicates otherwise.
Sorry but I remain sceptical of what exactly has been proven
Not sure you can place too much reliance on what Mr Clarke says.
What exactly have they shown the League ? was it a bank account with in excess of £10m? Was it budgets showing crowds averaging 6000 and wage costs low? Was it a letter from SISU promising to continue to fund ? Bit like the £1m bond that the league demanded that turned out to be a promise to pay in 3 years time. The Football League have already said on several occassions that they dont have the manpower to investigate things thoroughly why should we think they have on this.
They may have shown the access to funds but that is now what about tomorrow, next month, next year..... one thing we do know is SISU are very good at moving assets around. It may be completely above board but past experience indicates otherwise.
Sorry but I remain sceptical of what exactly has been proven
Seyeclops666
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covcity4life
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it seems apparent that pro council members are either 12 year old kids or senile OAP's.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Do you know what I find the most depressing ...............
The way that the whole affair has ended up pitting coventry fan against coventry fan
I find that unforgiveable
The way that the whole affair has ended up pitting coventry fan against coventry fan
I find that unforgiveable
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Worth quoting to agree with.
However, can't control others' actions, can control how you react to them.
ccfcmustang
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Yes i understand exactly the points you are making, however we dont know who the investor is behind SISU. If SISU wanted to sell why not sell when they have already lost 45,000,000 ,under an embargo, facing liquidation, irretrievable breakdown with the council, a slaughtered fan base and an offer on the table? Surely the most sensible option without spending more money to go to Northampton and every other loss which will incur from that. Why would they put in more money to force the groundshare if they thought "if we dont fill it we will have to sell" the risk of that would of been stupid because they would of knew from the outset that that wouldnt happen. All i suggest is a new approach, deffinately trying to get a fans rep on the board
covcity4life
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yup,but its not like its even a 2 sided thing
its if you think council are at fault too then you are a sisu lover
there is noone calling anyone a acl lover for hating sisu because we all hold hate for them
they have no common sense.
Not stirring up trouble but I don't know anybody who has been or is going to sixfields. I wouldn't mind an honest veiw of somene who is going to sixfields and what they think of the mess.I wont knock anyone who wants to go and support their team but surely they can't be pleased having to travel to northampton and how do they think we should go about getting us back in coventry.
Astute
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yup,but its not like its even a 2 sided thing
Correct. You have Higgs and CCC....ACL. All one group but won't always agree. Then you have all the separate groups of SISU that even the FL can't or don't want to understand. Then you have the courts that SISU threaten others with. Not done very well in the courts for a bit either.
its if you think council are at fault too then you are a sisu lover
If you try to make out that the CCC are nearly as much to blame as SISU then people will get upset. The majority know that CCC are partly to blame. At one stage I had them balanced. But the more SISU do the more the balance has tipped. What did it for me was when the loan was refinanced so a lower rent could be charged......what SISU said they wanted at the time...........they tried a Judicial review. The judge said exactly what most of us were saying. There is only one side that can take us back to Coventry. There was only one side that took us away. They did what they could so they didn't have to hold sensible talks. They don't care about our fans. 'So what if you are disabled or infirm. We won't help you get to shitfields. You got cheaper tickets anyway. You can't afford to get to games as well as buy a ticket? Go away then. We want real fans with real money.'
there is noone calling anyone a acl lover for hating sisu because we all hold hate for them
Some hate SISU more than others :thinking about: We could be back at the Ricoh within a couple of weeks if they wanted us back there. And on cheap terms as well. And they would earn much more money than keeping us away. There is no doubt why they are doing it. But in the latest attempt all they have done is rip the club apart.
Some people just go to the game and then go home. Some make it an all dayer, especially on away days. Some like myself make a weekend of it. Oh the joy of Sunday games. It means a lot more to some to give up more than others. I won't see family or friends as much now as I believe in NOPM. I am not saying I am a better supporter or anything. Just that it means more to some than others. NOPM is not a one season thing. It has been building up. People are frustrated. I only come on here now when I have had my happy pills
they have no common sense.
Ah the common sense one :thinking about: It depends on what you believe in to what people with common sense should also believe in. But if someone believes in the opposite to you then their idea of common sense is different to yours. So what we have to do is look at what thoughts are most common. This is what common sense is
Sky Blue Pete
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Acl are a management company running the Ricoh arena on behalf of the joint owners CCc and Alan Higgs. So not really loads of sides there
thaiskyblue
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if sisu can fund this , why don't they invest in the team or pay there debts ?
thaiskyblue
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will you tell your grandchildren you was there, when they ask " who were that coventry city team ?". sisu are taking the piss out of your blind faith , wake up, nopm.
thaiskyblue
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shitsu are using the oldest tactics in the book divide and conquer,nopm.
Skybluepiglet
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What annoys me most is when I initially decided to go to sixfields from the start I came on here to gauge the general feeling..and I was surprised just how in the minority
I was gonna be...I hadn't really spent much time looking into the whole political sorry saga.
After spending a couple of hours discussing with people (and being called scab & scum) I was convinced going to Sixfields was a poor decision.
NOT due to the childish name calling..but the real argument about Cov in Coventry.
Even my 13 year old son gets it!!
I can't believe that after 2 wins (that's all..just 2) people are so weak.
Every extra paid bum on a seat at sixfields will make Timmy smile.
I put this to you,,,those ones that are going today.
If we lose today and then the next game..don't come on here bleating the other way!!!!
I was gonna be...I hadn't really spent much time looking into the whole political sorry saga.
After spending a couple of hours discussing with people (and being called scab & scum) I was convinced going to Sixfields was a poor decision.
NOT due to the childish name calling..but the real argument about Cov in Coventry.
Even my 13 year old son gets it!!
I can't believe that after 2 wins (that's all..just 2) people are so weak.
Every extra paid bum on a seat at sixfields will make Timmy smile.
I put this to you,,,those ones that are going today.
If we lose today and then the next game..don't come on here bleating the other way!!!!
Matty_CCFC
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Good point piglet and I agree with your comments/
Did you get tickets for Hinckley by the way?
Skybluepiglet
New Member
Not in the end...My lad went to see them against Hitchin in the week & said they were awful.
We went to see Burton V Bury yesterday & it was a great game (Edjenguele and Nathan Cameron in for Bury)
Thats where we are going every other week.
It was real odd to see Edje all in red..he played well..& I managed a correct score 2-2 @ £5 12/1 :guitar2:
When I first got there ..I hated it..but once the game kicked off and the goals were flying in..we loved it.
Still want Sky blues back in Cov mind.
We went to see Burton V Bury yesterday & it was a great game (Edjenguele and Nathan Cameron in for Bury)
Thats where we are going every other week.
It was real odd to see Edje all in red..he played well..& I managed a correct score 2-2 @ £5 12/1 :guitar2:
When I first got there ..I hated it..but once the game kicked off and the goals were flying in..we loved it.
Still want Sky blues back in Cov mind.
Piglet, not read every page here, but it seems you have had a rethink and opted out of going to Sixfields after seeing the bigger picture.
Well done. It must be hard for you and you 13 year old not to support the team, like all of us.
If we unite against these awful Sisu people we'll force the issue.
And hopefully all be back together at the Ricoh before too long.
Well done. It must be hard for you and you 13 year old not to support the team, like all of us.
If we unite against these awful Sisu people we'll force the issue.
And hopefully all be back together at the Ricoh before too long.
bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
People are free to do what they like. However all of us must accept that our actions affect the world around us.
Those that refuse to go (and I include myself in this) must accept that by not going the team will eventually be weakened.
Those that go must accept that they are condoning the move to Northampton. Its no go saying that I don't support it, I just support the team. If you go, you're supporting it.
Those that refuse to go (and I include myself in this) must accept that by not going the team will eventually be weakened.
Those that go must accept that they are condoning the move to Northampton. Its no go saying that I don't support it, I just support the team. If you go, you're supporting it.
stupot07
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So are ACL and the trust/NOPM campaign.