Statement from the Sky Blue Trust (4 Viewers)

RoboCCFC90

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Over the last 10 days the Sky Blue Trust has held meetings and talks separately with both ACL and CCFC in an attempt to encourage new discussions on the Sky Blues returning to the Ricoh Arena.
ACL indicated to the Trust that they would be willing to discuss with the owners of CCFC the potential for a new rental deal at the stadium. Our understanding is that ACL would react positively to a business proposal from Otium Entertainment Group to discuss CCFC returning to the Ricoh Arena under such an arrangement. ACL indicated that they wished to put past disagreements behind them, draw a line in the sand and enter any discussions without prejudice or preconceptions. Whilst at this stage it is nothing more than an offer of discussions it is we believe a step in the right direction.
We communicated the ACL response to Tim Fisher who has assured us that he will consult with the Club’s owners as to where they can take it from here. We would urge Tim Fisher and Joy Seppala to take in to consideration the hopes and views of many thousands of Sky Blue fans and to respond to this opportunity positively. We would urge SISU/Otium to make an immediate approach to ACL to begin the rental discussions.
Both sides have indicated that they see strong futures for their respective businesses acting independently, however it is our firm belief that the future is even stronger for both businesses if they are in the same place in Coventry working together in some form of partnership. Both claim they will be strong separately – we maintain they would be even stronger together.
We believe there is an opportunity for both sides to benefit. The Ricoh stadium bowl needs to be used and empty it represents lost income for ACL. The financial implications of playing “home” games in Northampton with crowds that presently average less than 2000 must be financially onerous for CCFC, especially when playing in Coventry offers far greater income potential.
The Sky Blue Trust has been working hard to achieve this potential opportunity for discussions and urges both sides to grasp it. The Trusts focus is purely on getting the club back to the Ricoh, we are not in the business of choosing who the clubs owners are, organising continued protests in London or in Northampton or any direct anti-club actions. The Trust is not pro or anti ACL nor pro or anti SISU or any other such label some have tried to apply – we are pro supporter and pro CCFC, nothing more, nothing less. We will leave that sort of thing to those behind the independent Keep Cov In Cov campaign.
In an amicable move aimed at clearing up confusion a couple of Trust board members have tendered their resignations so they can concentrate on KCIC without their campaign being confused with that of the Trust. Whilst approving of their aims the Trust has no control or influence on their methods or tactics. Peaceful protest is a legitimate tool for the fans to employ however the Trust will concentrate on continuing to try to influence all sides to reach a resolution through negotiation and talk.
There is a glimmer of an opportunity for a potential resolution and it is now up to both sides to put past differences behind them, look dispassionately at what is really best for their respective businesses and what is best for the fans of the club. We urge them to grasp the opportunity and begin the process that might bring the team home.
 

RoboCCFC90

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So basically it's dependant on whether Joy Seppala wants to do this?

Kingharvest you wanting to be asking this!
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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But the trust didnt approach SISU through the administrator so it all null and void as its technically not legal protocol... wait for it...:facepalm:.....they'll be along in a moment.
 

treenie01

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Found it

this was from our Supporters Trust Forum which was two weeks ago I think

Q: Do you have any regrets at the Coventry move and the possible legal action?David Cardoza: “No. Coventry approached us, we cleared it with the Football League and it couldn’t have gone ahead without them agreeing to it. Working with Coventry has been brilliant, they have great staff. They’ve paid on time, sometimes early, and they love the way we’ve looked after them. If I thought the club was at any risk I wouldn’t do it. If they’re here for the next few years, with the extra money it puts us in a good position. At the moment though we’re not sure where it goes. This is a season for us clearing up a lot of financial issues.“
Q: If they found a solution to move back to Coventry, would we let them leave?
David Cardoza: “We have a let-out after each year. So yes.”
 

BrisbaneBronco

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Another rental agreement is not the way forward.
Any discussions should be based on ownership and uniting the stadium with the club and the club receiving ALL match day revenue
 

YamYam

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But the trust didnt approach SISU through the administrator so it all null and void as its technically not legal protocol... wait for it...:facepalm:.....they'll be along in a moment.

I'm not a Coventry fan. But if I understand that CCFC is now owned by a company that isn't in administration, why don't you?
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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I'm not a Coventry fan. But if I understand that CCFC is now owned by a company that isn't in administration, why don't you?

Doesnt matter- was irony. ACL offered the rent at £150000/annum through the media whilst in administration... Lots of posters on here including a local radio journalist resist the figure existed based on the fact that it wasnt offered through the administrator via legal protocol.. so it didnt exist...like this wont....? Like I say doesnt matter, my error.
 
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Buster

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Another rental agreement is not the way forward.
Any discussions should be based on ownership and uniting the stadium with the club and the club receiving ALL match day revenue
How do you know a rental deal wil not have an agreement with it on match day revenue?
 

Monners

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Its something positive - interesting to see how this develops. Down to the two main parties now. Be surprised if Sisu move from their apparent strategy
 

skybluebeduff

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We would urge Tim Fisher and Joy Seppala to take in to consideration the hopes and views of many thousands of Sky Blue fans and to respond to this opportunity positively.

So this is all the Trust could conjure up, and they want TF and JS to listen to the fans? sorry but I'm glad I never invested my pound into regurgitated "encouragements".
 

BrisbaneBronco

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How do you know a rental deal wil not have an agreement with it on match day revenue?

I don't, but ACL are sure to have their noses deep in the trough looking for a share of CCFC income.
IMO ACL are a spent force and will not survive without CCFC, time they realised this.
CCC/ACL need to agree ownership of stadium with SISU or SISU do what they have said they will do all along, and that's build there own stadium.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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surely to god anything that encourages the two sides to bloody talk to each other is a GOOD thing, why is there so much negativity about the trust at least trying to get the two parties together.
ACL have said they want to draw a line in the sand and start again, what we need is for SISU to meet them and see how we can move onwards on this awful dispute. I blame both sides in this,more SISU then ACL/Council and it has been talked to death on here, but can't we see that at least some people haven't given up of getting them to talk to each other .
 

SIR ERNIE

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...or SISU do what they have said they will do all along, and that's build there own stadium.

you're havin a laugh.

Build their own stadium?

never in a million years.
 

bigfatronssba

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Look, I would say that there is more chance of SISU building their own stadium than CCC/ACL selling them a share of the Ricoh.
Returning to the Ricoh under a rental agreement is madness. We would be going back to what we have just got out of.

Owning a share in the Ricoh is of no benefit to the club. Owning the income streams are what is needed. First step in that is getting sisu to agree in principle in moving back to the Ricoh.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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Look, I would say that there is more chance of SISU building their own stadium than CCC/ACL selling them a share of the Ricoh.
Returning to the Ricoh under a rental agreement is madness. We would be going back to what we have just got out of.

Return under a fair rental agreement, with access to revenue streams not an option worth considering even in the short term?, even if ultimately a stadium were built by Otium?
 

DaleM

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Owning a share in the Ricoh is of no benefit to the club. Owning the income streams are what is needed. First step in that is getting sisu to agree in principle in moving back to the Ricoh.

This is what I don't get . Why don't Otium just buy the Higgs share for the reported 4-6 million . 50% of Acl in an instant. Integrate ACL and club , then gradually take over the rest over time. Fuck me it ain't rocket science. Get a foot in the door and infiltrate from the inside.

While I'm at it Fisher has to consult with the owners. Who actually are the owners ? I thought "shadow directors" are not allowed.

I just don't get how they can be prepared to lose 8000x£15x 23 games a season. Thats 2.76 million a season down the pan at least(Will probably be a lot more at the minute the way the team is playing). They could make the cost of the 50% share back in 2 years.
Business people ?
 

SIR ERNIE

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Another rental agreement is not the way forward.
Any discussions should be based on ownership and uniting the stadium with the club and the club receiving ALL match day revenue

Is your suggestion based on ownership at full current market value? If so, my guess is SISU wouldn't be interested.

Or are you advocating they get it at a knock down price? If so, why?
 

Hobo

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The way forward is a short term rental agreement until the end of the season.

This brings Coventry back to Coventry for the fans and the team.

It give both sides time for serious discussion and time to explore the future apart.
 

Chipfat

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On current form with low gates Sisu will be seriously looking into this, 3000 lowest 7000 highest was mentioned , if this team playing this way it is at the Ricoh would attract 15000 every game.. Double highest estimates and will not have gone unnoticed by the owners, they need to be playing in Coventry to still compete for the season. Talks need to happen and both sides may now see the value in each other and put the behind them and move towards what all concerned want.

U dont like TF or his company but being in Coventry with fair rent and extra income streams with a long term plan to buy as an option might give them the chance to listen to a serious offer to sell...First thing first get the team back in Coventry with decent attendances and all other things might fall into place, dont like the owners but hate the fact NTFC is on paper our home more.......
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Unless either side budges we will get a stalemate again

SISU/Otium will not go back unless they get at least part ownership or revenues from the arena, they won't want to go back to paying ACL rent and getting nothing
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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The hope found in the SBT statement needs firstly to be ratified by ACL.. and then its over to Tim and his team.
But tonight at least.. its hope?
 

tuousis

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I don't, but ACL are sure to have their noses deep in the trough looking for a share of CCFC income.
IMO ACL are a spent force and will not survive without CCFC, time they realised this.
CCC/ACL need to agree ownership of stadium with SISU or SISU do what they have said they will do all along, and that's build there own stadium.
so SISU have pulled the wool over your eyes then. their stadium is in your dreams.
 

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