kcic @ sisu office London W1K 6PL Wednesday 25 September (8 Viewers)

James Smith

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'Hell' and 'freezes over' springs to mind.

The ACL/CCC apologists will never arrange anything along those lines as that'd mean they'd partly blame someone other than the current owners.

The fact that the rent was too high is down to the old board for agreeing to it and ACL for setting it that high. Moving us out of the Ricoh and the Higgs Centre is down to SISU/CCFC and no one else, that has been where the main focus of peoples anger is - we're not playing in Coventry.

It doesn't help that Tim goes around making statements that could be and are believed - when he's allegedly bluffing. That's just dumb as no one knows which ones he means and which ones are a bluff, was all the comments about the new stadium a bluff? Was "We've moved on" a bluff? etc.
 

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bezzer

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The fact that the rent was too high is down to the old board for agreeing to it and ACL for setting it that high. Moving us out of the Ricoh and the Higgs Centre is down to SISU/CCFC and no one else, that has been where the main focus of peoples anger is - we're not playing in Coventry.


I'm not disputing the fact SISU signed on to the ridiculous rent agreement, but ultimately they saved our club.

With the Trust and the NOPM and KCIC campaigns pulling in different directions, we all look weak and divided.

I know Michael is doing his best with the KCIC campaign and I admire his fortitude and the time he spends doing it. But to succeed in getting us back home and ultimately ridding ourselves of SISU, we have to be singing off the same hymn sheet.

A hundred people on the hill, a couple of dozen down in London and 2 or 3 on the councils doorstep and an MP who's turning into more of a laughing stock as time goes by, aren't going to achieve what we all want. The club owners, ACL and CCC will ultimately listen to one voice - US!

This in fighting is so divisive. All we want to do is follow our team, in our City.

And as is the way with this forum, because I've posted my thoughts and not made any concrete suggestions I'll be seen as an apologist for the owners. But to clarify my stance, I despise SISU/Otium as much as I despise ACL and the Council
 

James Smith

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I'm not disputing the fact SISU signed on to the ridiculous rent agreement, but ultimately they saved our club.

With the Trust and the NOPM and KCIC campaigns pulling in different directions, we all look weak and divided.

I know Michael is doing his best with the KCIC campaign and I admire his fortitude and the time he spends doing it. But to succeed in getting us back home and ultimately ridding ourselves of SISU, we have to be singing off the same hymn sheet.

A hundred people on the hill, a couple of dozen down in London and 2 or 3 on the councils doorstep and an MP who's turning into more of a laughing stock as time goes by, aren't going to achieve what we all want. The club owners, ACL and CCC will ultimately listen to one voice - US!

This in fighting is so divisive. All we want to do is follow our team, in our City.

And as is the way with this forum, because I've posted my thoughts and not made any concrete suggestions I'll be seen as an apologist for the owners. But to clarify my stance, I despise SISU/Otium as much as I despise ACL and the Council

I thought the KCIC was supported by the NOPM campaign by making it as financially painful for SISU to keep us in Northampton as possible. Just my personal thoughts though and other people may differ in their views.
 

Hobo

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Bezzer,
"With the Trust and the NOPM and KCIC campaigns pulling in different directions, we all look weak and divided.

I know Michael is doing his best with the KCIC campaign and I admire his fortitude and the time he spends doing it. But to succeed in getting us back home and ultimately ridding ourselves of SISU, we have to be singing off the same hymn sheet."

Well I haven't seen anything in the press or from fans of other clubs to say we look pathetic or divided. That seems to come from certain people on here who keep mocking the efforts of others.

Most successful campaigns are multifaceted, not reliant on one particular thrust. Otherwise people become blind to the campaign and tire of it quickly. You don't want to keep hearing yesterday's news. You can't keep relying on the same tactics week in week out. Nobody should be criticised for trying to fight the cause and get Cov back home.
 

chiefdave

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those who want a protest against the council and / or ACL what are you hoping the outcome will be?

the thing that seems to come up regularly is that historically the rent was too high, even if you accept that, the offer made by ACL is at least a two thirds reduction and access to their share of matchday revenues, they may even be open to an even lower rent having indicated they may agree to £150K so protesting about the level of the rent is pointless.

what else is there to protest about? ACL have said they are happy to restart talks and put the past behind them, SISU haven't taken them up on that offer. Ann Lucas has asked Joy to meet with her and so far there's been no response to that either. the ground and pitch is being maintained ready for CCFC to move back in at any point. I can't really see much more can be expected of them.

what exactly is it people are wanting ACL / SISU to do? Surely not just hand over the Ricoh for nothing? Would that even be possible with ACL having a lease and a loan outstanding?
 
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