Do you think we could get 100,000 signatures..... (7 Viewers)
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Bill Glazier
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That is a brilliant idea
letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
Worth a try but the telegraph never managed 20,000
should have started it before the Arsenal game would have got a few thousand from their fans.
should have started it before the Arsenal game would have got a few thousand from their fans.
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Jack Griffin
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Speak to Jim Cunningham MP.. he seems to be keen on reform of the game.
Damian Collins MP is also working on it.
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MichaelCCFC
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kcic will be announcing something on this very shortly...watch this space
Good stuff. I reckon we can hit 100K no problem.
Cheshire Sky Blue
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What would the subject of the debate be? The plight of CCFC, The incompetence of the Football League in administering the game in this country, the rather stupid Administration laws in this country that allow corrupt officials to screw over the innocents or Global warming?
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Jack Griffin
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I think it has to be about reform of Football Administration, specific topics like Coventry, Hull, Cardiff, Portsmouth etc. will not get the necessary signatures.
It's a good question, and clearly there is some thinking needed, but providing we get the subject and sentiment right it will gather momentum I'm sure.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Needs to be about football governance. As general as possible.
Something like "We, the undersigned, would like Government to acknowledge the failure of the Football League to act in the best interests of fans and to create legislation to ensure the history and community of this nations sports teams are given priority over the business interests of club owners."
Something like "We, the undersigned, would like Government to acknowledge the failure of the Football League to act in the best interests of fans and to create legislation to ensure the history and community of this nations sports teams are given priority over the business interests of club owners."
Cheshire Sky Blue
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Agree with you shmmee. Football is dying in this country due mainly to the incompetence of the administrators and the effect of Sky.
mark82
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Beat me to it
Houchens Head
Fairly well known member from Malvern
Great idea in principal, but I can't see the government doing a thing. Surely the Football League / Premier League or whatever are now pretty much controlled by the TV companies. It's a multi billion market and it's something ANY government wouldn't want to upset the apple-cart over. There is too much at stake with tax revenue, Party "donations", back-handers and the like.
It certainly must be a significant contributor to the economy ,wonder how much leaves the Country ,not just player salary but shareholdings ,dividends,tax havens etc.
bringbackrattles
Well-Known Member
Sounds a good idea but this government just like the one before it would be a waste of time,as i recall a petition and march against going into Iraq was ignored,and that attracted nearly a million signatures and marchers.and how incompetent is the football league as well ? We are football fans who love our club but the powers to be sadly don't give a shit.
JohnWH
Well-Known Member
I live in the USA, so may opinion on this may or may not be noteworthy. However, I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement and approach. An emphasis on fans and ownership is not enough, but a reminder about the defense of history (individual teams as well as the role of the game in the national sense) and community pride & sensibilities needs to be paramount. Individual teams will have similar, yet distinct, problematic situations, but governing and regulatory bodies must be held to the highest standards to ensure that the fans, communities, and history are preserved. Many teams supporters are feeling the shaft -- such as Hull City, Portsmouth, Wimbledon, Cardiff, Coventry City-- because of an unwillingness of the powers-that-be to take a hard nosed approach to reigning in errant ownerships.
A wide and general approach should be taken, with the abovementioned teams serving as examples to lack of proper stewardships by the authorities.
I can recall not particularly caring about Portsmouth's demise, or Stockport Co.'s exile into oblivion... They weren't "my team's" problems. Yet, now I care, and maybe, just maybe, if fans of all clubs unite behind the common good to say "We will stand up against attacks to ANY club's rightful history and community," everyone can be better served. Is there any such sort of Super Supporters Trust that encompasses fans of all teams that can serve as a watchdog group? If not, can we as Sky Blues start one, and invite others to join?
Not a guarantee no, but they have to have a pretty good reason to turn it down. According the direct.gov 'If you collect 100,000 signatures, your e-petition is eligible to be debated in the House of Commons' and then it goes to a committee. Nothing to lose though surely?
JohnWH
Well-Known Member
And a bonus to whatever politician wants to make it his or her only ambition to curry votes from passionate fans of any club. Here in America, crackpots are re-elected by whoever makes enough noise rabble rabble rabble.
MichaelCCFC
New Member
No worries. Friday provided the perfect launch pad. Just sorting wording with relevant people and sowing seeds of support elsewhere so should be good to go later in the week
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Jack Griffin
Guest
Next year is election year. If this takes on & becomes popular what party will not back it.
And if the FL & FA see that they are going to be regulated they will soon see sense.
And if hedge fund investors and super rich club owners see their options are going to be severely restricted their interest in owning football clubs will evaporate.
And if the FL & FA see that they are going to be regulated they will soon see sense.
And if hedge fund investors and super rich club owners see their options are going to be severely restricted their interest in owning football clubs will evaporate.
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Jack Griffin
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Needs a coordinated campaign to advertise on every major football forum. I'm happy to sit up a few nights and posts out the word with an agreed message. If Hull & others can get involved too so much the better.
SkyBlue_Bear83
Well-Known Member
Why don't we just promote the one that the telegraph set up in the summer
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/keep-city-in-coventry
I know it was done before the move was announced but surely it has the same purpose/meaning. Already has 12.5k signatures
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/keep-city-in-coventry
I know it was done before the move was announced but surely it has the same purpose/meaning. Already has 12.5k signatures
Skyblueweeman
Well-Known Member
Break it down, it's not that daunting...lets get Nick to message 500 forum members on here (there's got to be more than that, right?). 'If' 500 members can get atleast 100 each, we're half way there. Then there's got to be approx. 160 league clubs in England and Scotland (as well as the Conference), so if we contact all their supporters clubs, we need 312 each. Some will give us more, such as Hull, Pompey etc.
I know we won't get 100 fro 500 forum users or all 160 (ish) clubs will get 312, but numbers are certainly more palatable when broken down. I could get 100 I reckon (lots of Pompey/Saints fans who have seen their fair share of sh*t).
WM
I know we won't get 100 fro 500 forum users or all 160 (ish) clubs will get 312, but numbers are certainly more palatable when broken down. I could get 100 I reckon (lots of Pompey/Saints fans who have seen their fair share of sh*t).
WM
JohnWH
Well-Known Member
For sheer numbers, contacting the biggest clubs' supporters clubs will net tens of thousands by themselves. A good message to include in the marketing of such contact is the line "Your club could be next." Arsenal fans on Friday proved that there is a willingness to unite behind a common good and stand shoulder to shoulder in solidarity.
Skyblueweeman
Well-Known Member
But the likes of Alloa Athletic won't but I get your point! I'd be more than happy to contact some of the clubs....doing my bit and all that!
SkyBlueHomer
New Member
Personally I think we can manage 100k. If we don't so be it, but surely it better to have tried and failed than not tried at all.
At the minute the momentom is definatly with us especially if we keep Friday night fresh in the minds of football fans everywhere, not just Arsenal fans.
If we don't act now a week or so and it will be forgotten about
At the minute the momentom is definatly with us especially if we keep Friday night fresh in the minds of football fans everywhere, not just Arsenal fans.
If we don't act now a week or so and it will be forgotten about
In answer ,you're probably referring to supporters Direct.
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Jack Griffin
Guest
Oh, I think this will run & run.
JohnWH
Well-Known Member
And in fairness, I think the biggest roadblock is awareness. We had a tremendous platform against Arsenal. Many of their supporters had no idea of our situation, or were mixed up about what our concerns really were. Some of them came onto this forum, or discussed it on their own forums, seeking more information. Likewise, my own interest in other clubs' goings-on has been piqued ever since this whole relocation mess occured last year.
I may be limited in what I can do as an individual; I live in USA and I am not very Internet savvy. Yet, I am happy to report any findings I come up with to my new Sky Blue Talk community friends.
We all would like others to see what is happening to our club, because they dont know.. A good question may be, what can the Sky Blue Army do to show solidarity for Hull City, Cardiff City, Wimbledon, and others in the future?
I think a grand petition is a step in the right direction, bringing everyones attention and anger to bare on the authorities to take better stewardship of individual clubs and the national game as a whole.