rondog1973
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You did once post that CCC/ACL were "100% to blame" for the club finding itself in Northampton.
So by that reckoning Sisu are blameless?
What have SISU have done to Coventry City (29 Viewers)
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So by that reckoning Sisu are blameless?
Grendel
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Sorry? I doubt whatever happens Swansea fans will be affected or care. Its a red herring. It will not hamper the club only the council and the fans will I assure you not care less.
I support the club tony and yes would take the Ricoh free and would care less about the consequences for anyone else. That's because I love the club - tony I think you can't look in the mirror and say the same can you?
Hobo
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Or even a post where a solution is suggested?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
So you know what the outcome is going to be. Are you psychic Sally? Just that you keep announcing that she's on at the ricoh as well so it would make sense.
Here's the thing. There is actually more to life than football, if you had a life I guess you would know this. And the same basic principal that stops me going to sixfields also means that i understand it's not the job of local authorities that are funded by tax payers to ensure that hedge funds based in tax havens turn a profit.
They haven't even said whether the club would own the ricoh should sisu gain control of it, in fact they deliberately seem to muddy the waters on this. Yes we might be there on a peppercorn rent with access to match day income streams but they could also take that revenue straight back out in management fees. We may be no better of and the entire population of Coventry could get screwed in the meantime. And if your a Coventry tax payer and ccfc supporter you would be getting screwed twice
Grendel
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And you call me a troll. Hilarious.
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
Do I have to dig it out?
We were having a debate and you said words to the effect of SISU's hard ball tactics are right. (Withholding rent threatening to build new stadium not accepting the rent deal)
As in the end it will benefit the club.
I warned you today it is ACL suffering from SISU's tactics tomorrow it could be the fans....
I am paraphrasing
skybluetony176
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mark82
Super Moderator
How would it? Financially it makes very little difference. It's already embarrassing for them getting crowds of under 2000. They just don't give a shit. Tell me in what way it would make them change there mind.
The Gentleman
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Really, how do you know this. Nothing Sisu have done in the last 12-18 months suggests to me that they would have invested in the squad. We played at the Ricoh last season and how much did they spend in the summer? Don't forget that Fisher's attendance predictions forecast way above what they actually are so if they wanted to invest in the squad, with the players that left would have meant we could have spent money on players. There is no basis whatsoever that higher attendances at Sixfields would have meant investment in the squad.
mark82
Super Moderator
Fair point, I meant more that they were using the money to cover losses. If they had more incoming there would certainly be more chance of "spending". It would be tough for them to justify much in the way of spending under financial fair play at the moment.
I brought up the fact a boycott would likely lead to a reduction in spending ability in the summer, even from the low amount back then. The boycott is the right thing to do but we have to be willing to accept that our actions will have consequences. People seemed to accept that then but ate now moaning (talking generally rather than about individuals).
Sky Blue Pete
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I think that's fair but it's not what Tim said to the football league about funding the losses.
And where are they, what are their thoughts?
Again happy to lie low for judicial review but really do fear we will be in league 2 next year
mark82
Super Moderator
They said they would fund the losses. They didn't say they would use income received to fund transfers to keep the fans happy.
Sky Blue Pete
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Not to keep me happy just to enable the team to compete, that's all
mark82
Super Moderator
We'd all like that, but as I say, have to accept the consequences of our actions. Anyway, the less debt they load on the club the more chance we have of surviving and competing long term , post Sisu.
Sky Blue Pete
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Probably true. Really struggling to stay interested not getting to watch my team
letsallsingtogether
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Got to admit this is the first time that I haven't listened to a game I haven't attended when in the country. took a look at 6.00 to see what the score was.
Will not make any comments on the game as i don;t know if we played well or not.
Sad sad times .
Will not make any comments on the game as i don;t know if we played well or not.
Sad sad times .
ccfc_Tom
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i went to see comedian seann walsh tonight at the warwick arts centre and he mentioned cov in northampton and some cov fans were kicking off with him about it starting a debate!? was mental- walsh had to remind them it wasn't a forum to discuss sisu but in fact a comedy gig... Had me in stitches though. I Literally can't escape a sisu debate wherever i am.
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letsallsingtogether
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JACK FUCKING SHIT,
Nothing absolutely nothing :blue:
Nothing absolutely nothing :blue:
bigfatronssba
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I'd agree that was true, and as a sixfields boycotter I accept the consequences of low attendances. Personally I would rather see the club in the blue square south that a full sixfields.
Us boycotters should accept that our actions will inadvertently affect the standard of the team (for me that is a price worth paying), just in the same way that those that do go to sixfields are inadvertently supporting the principle of playing in Northampton.
Snozz_is_god
New Member
I have a solution to the Ricoh problem
Offer Coventry Speedway use of the Ricoh, turn it into a speedway track, along with Stock Car racing
It would be interesting to see what SISU do then.
Offer Coventry Speedway use of the Ricoh, turn it into a speedway track, along with Stock Car racing
It would be interesting to see what SISU do then.
Wouldnt that contravene state aid laws and surely SISU couldnt accept that
bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
Most probably threaten to "batter the Coventry Bees in court".
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
I agree. They should. After all the Ricoh can't be just left there standing empty, can it?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I don't think even sisu would dare incase they got stung.
See what I did there ;-)
6 Generations
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And why not build a dog track around it? 2 birds'.....
Grendel
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Divisive garbage.
GaryPendrysEyes
Well-Known Member
Yes you are.
Astute
Well-Known Member
So you are saying that Swansea would be in Northampton?
Why don't you answer certain questions for once.
Do you trust SISU?
You say that the Ricoh should be handed over to CCFC. Sod the council, taxpayer and charity. Yet Timothy has admitted that our club wouldn't own the Ricoh. It would be owned by a hedge fund. So how could it be handed over to our club?
Who should pay off all the contracts that SISU want getting rid of before getting the freehold for next to nothing?
How can they get around the laws that stop this sort of thing happening?
But as usual you will just ignore this thread, ignore the questions, change the subject or come out with silly answers that can't happen.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
So in your view suggesting fans going to Sixfields supporting the move to Northampton isn't dividing supporters? Care to explain that?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
No no. Didn't you know? Grendull talks more sense than anyone else on here. It says so on GMK so it must be true.
bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
Inadvertently of course they are. If you pay to use/buy a product or service you are supporting that product or service. Here the product is CCFC playing in Northampton. Its not that difficult to understand.
I accept that no one wants to be playing in Northampton, but those going need to accept their responsibilities and not just shrug their shoulders and say nothing to do with me gov.
Do you think those staying away are damaging the quality of the team?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Swansea would be bankrupt
I trust sisu as much as the council with our club - not very much
Many clubs are owned by holding companies. Any owner not suggesting this would be an idiot
The next remark straight from the Mucas book of business suggests if this is true no business has ever made it happen in the history of the world. Hard to believe.
spider_ricoh
New Member
Problem is that SISU's approach, more than their actions as such, is what has alienated fans and the other key stakeholders - without those, the club has no chance of succeeding. SISU's "negotation" tactics may work in the world of cut throat property and high finance, but it's just had the effect of getting the council disgruntled and disengaged.
The performance yesterday and our general position as a club is the price we are paying for the aggressive behaviour of our proprietors.
The performance yesterday and our general position as a club is the price we are paying for the aggressive behaviour of our proprietors.