A few questions for PWKH (40 Viewers)

As I say PWKH is on safe ground here. He would not identify himself on a normal forum. My opinion of him is that he is an egotist and has zero interest in the welfare of the club and its fans. He wouldn't even consider it without the knowledge there are stupid gushing sycophants who hang on to his every word.
What is a normal forum?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Ha ha. I wish I could be arsed to find that post you made about me where you were going of on one about how pathetic I was for referring to RFC as Mark. Whatever it was you said, right back at ya.

Not really. In this instance the comment is entirely justified. Why would a poster try and answer a question on Peter's behalf. Its logical as they are so interested in questions to Peter that they are indeed Peter.
 

skybluefred

New Member
I love how my post history is getting psycho-analysed. Have I upset you because i don't quite buy into the anti-SISU bandwagon?

As for the SISU plant... That one gets funnier every time...

Let me also clarify my cash cow comment. For years I was going to games thinking why don't the club lower ticket prices.. Fill the ground and make it up from other sales. And now I know why they didn't. This isn't a SISU exclusive problem it would have been the same for the previous lot. I know that there was the loan through ACL which would be serviced by the rent, but very event CCFC hosted - ACL profited from with F&B, parking, sponsorship and other streams.They wouldn't have secured the Ricoh sponsorship without the football club being there (which incidentally is up for renewal in 2015... That will be interesting) so they did secure a lot of monies with minimal effort..

You can see why they don't want to give them up. But if I park at Ricoh or buy a pie or even a hospitality box....I want that money to go to CCFC - not some venture fund put together by the council. Is that so unreasonable?

If the Club wanted the money from parking--pies--hospitality boxes etc, WHY did THEY SELL those rights?. Having sold them why should they get them back for free?.
 

skybluefred

New Member
sisu are under the impression that acl and council wont deal with them.

i mean they were told that outright. only deal with adminsitrator.

so no deal could be done then.

and since admin ended it dont look like a new deal has been offered.

When a Company is in admin the only person you can deal with is the Administrator. The club is still in admin until Appleton finish's his investigations.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
If the Club wanted the money from parking--pies--hospitality boxes etc, WHY did THEY SELL those rights?. Having sold them why should they get them back for free?.

Why not? Why if you supported the club would you want that? Only a cretin or a troll would want that. Which are you?
 

Astute

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Why not? Why if you supported the club would you want that? Only a cretin or a troll would want that. Which are you?

So you don't want a charity to get their money back. What does that make you?
 

sky blue john

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Why not? Why if you supported the club would you want that? Only a cretin or a troll would want that. Which are you?

I support ccfc but I don't want the club paying Arvo 1million + every year in interest.
Probably why the club can't afford the Ricoh ?
 

James Smith

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Not really. In this instance the comment is entirely justified. Why would a poster try and answer a question on Peter's behalf. Its logical as they are so interested in questions to Peter that they are indeed Peter.

I wasn't trying to answer on behalf of PWKH, you mentioned GMK and previously I thought someone had said that they didn't take new registrations. Hence my question and why I thanked you for the answer when you kindly gave it.
 

chiefdave

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Why not? Why if you supported the club would you want that? Only a cretin or a troll would want that. Which are you?

With that logic why don't we get CCC to double the council tax and donate all the extra money to the club. You would be in favour of that if you supported the club wouldn't you? Surely only a cretin or a troll would be against that.
 

Grendel

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With that logic why don't we get CCC to double the council tax and donate all the extra money to the club. You would be in favour of that if you supported the club wouldn't you? Surely only a cretin or a troll would be against that.

I'd support it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
So you don't want a charity to get their money back. What does that make you?

Realistic. The charity will never get its money back - they didn't invest wisely - according to CCC and their valuation if the Higgs share. Or are you saying they lied about that?
 

dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
There are plenty of people... just have a look at Twitter.

Ian do you think Les Reid could post on here as himself if he wanted to? Like Simon does. Les was quite straight speaking in the CET. Would it impact in him somehow to do the same here?
 

Nick

Administrator
Ian do you think Les Reid could post on here as himself if he wanted to? Like Simon does. Les was quite straight speaking in the CET. Would it impact in him somehow to do the same here?

I guess so as he did on Twitter before going quiet
 

Nick

Administrator
I mean he probably saw the crap SL got when he posted on here. Why would he want to come on here and get that?
 

dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
I mean he probably saw the crap SL got when he posted on here. Why would he want to come on here and get that?

I know what you meant there I just meant which one should I ask to apologise. :)

Like I say can't see Les getting phased by people here.
Surprised SL did
 

MichaelCCFC

New Member
I mean he probably saw the crap SL got when he posted on here. Why would he want to come on here and get that?

To be fair didn't someone fairly recently out shhmee who is only the relative of someone who is more involved in this and haven't there been some fairly unsubtle posts about OSB's 'agenda'?
 

dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
The thing that annoyed me about Les' agenda was in my humble opinion it is easy to gig into a charity and a council as they are generally bound by law and legislation that makes them accountable.
So the stuff he was finding out was probably good but where was the hard journalism. Where was he finding out the stuff about a hedge fund notoriously secretive. Where was the info about the what's happening in the Cayman Islands where was the pressure for info about the new stadium etc etc.
it never happened because in my opinion that is harder to do.
 

Nick

Administrator
The thing that annoyed me about Les' agenda was in my humble opinion it is easy to gig into a charity and a council as they are generally bound by law and legislation that makes them accountable.
So the stuff he was finding out was probably good but where was the hard journalism. Where was he finding out the stuff about a hedge fund notoriously secretive. Where was the info about the what's happening in the Cayman Islands where was the pressure for info about the new stadium etc etc.
it never happened because in my opinion that is harder to do.

Could maybe ask Simon why it isn't being done then?
 

Nick

Administrator
To be fair didn't someone fairly recently out shhmee who is only the relative of someone who is more involved in this and haven't there been some fairly unsubtle posts about OSB's 'agenda'?

I think Schmee outted himself, people seemed to know anyway.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
I think Schmee outted himself, people seemed to know anyway.

I did out myself, but only because people were making inaccurate accusations and I'd rather have my opinion ignored for accurate reasons! :D

But yeah, apparently people have known on GMK for a while and I'm not exactly secretive about it.

I think Michael's point was more that people use who I am to make aspersions about my ability to give an independent viewpoint, same as OSB since he worked for ACL (for like 3 minutes).
 

Nick

Administrator
While I agree that even if you did work for somebody, you don't always agree with them. Could you imagine if I said I had worked foe SISU for a day?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
While I agree that even if you did work for somebody, you don't always agree with them. Could you imagine if I said I had worked foe SISU for a day?

Well we praise Steven Pressley and he's a Sisu employee ;)

TBH I think the only people that need questioning are those that claim special knowledge of the situation. Everyone else can be debated on an even playing field, some on here (mostly from the pro-Sisu side TBH) play a lot of the "You'll find out" "Wait till it all comes out" which is impossible to actually discuss (which I guess is the point).
 

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