Club Statement (9 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

People do things that are irrational, like buying a Football Club, but they are supposed to be hard nosed money people.

The buying the club made sense in terms of a quick return but high risk, spunk some cash in and try for a promotion.

Now makes sense in a 'let's see how much we can salvage before buggering off' scenario, and effectively setting the investment clock to zero a year ago.

It's the bit in between that made less sense!

 

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[Sick Boy]

Who gives a fuck about the CVA? It hasn't affected the club in the slightest.

Apart from the ten points being taken off. It is odd a supporter of a football club doesn't care that their team lost ten points,in fact it's more than odd and doesn't make sense.

 

[Kingokings204]

Leaving the 'creative accounting stuff' aside I agree with your last sentence. We need the club back asap and start to rebuild both financially and in the leagues.
But I am quite sure there will be no easy compromise. To me it seems unlikely sisu will do anything to open negotiations. Only if ACL comes back and agree to start negotiations for the Higgs shares based on the original road map as well as the CCC's shares and a 125 yr long lease in exchange for the £14m loan, only then will I start hoping something can happen.

Many here advocate that sisu should put an open bid in the public domaine - well, that won't happen. Why not ask ACL to go back to the table and use the road map as a starting point?

Yes I couldn't put it better myself. My only hope to pick up on your ACL point is that after the JR is over they can finally start talking and take the higher road and start a creative path for ccfc back home and then things are half way back. I fully understand CCC not talking at the moment as its sensitive and its so close. This seems to be frustrating otium/sisu but my hope is ACL/CCC start back up after the JR and sort this mess out and the road map is not a bad place like you said to start imo.

 

[Como]

The buying the club made sense in terms of a quick return but high risk, spunk some cash in and try for a promotion.

Now makes sense in a 'let's see how much we can salvage before buggering off' scenario, and effectively setting the investment clock to zero a year ago.

It's the bit in between that made less sense!

True, once Plan A went down the toilet then would have been the time to run.

Presumably they have some figures for how much they need to pump in for whatever the time frame they are looking at is, and have decided that whatever the unknown upside is makes it a logical call.

 

[Como]

Apart from the ten points being taken off. It is odd a supporter of a football club doesn't care that their team lost ten points,in fact it's more than odd and doesn't make sense.

I would rather it did not happen, but if it does not effect promotion or relegation it is no the end of the world.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Apart from the ten points being taken off. It is odd a supporter of a football club doesn't care that their team lost ten points,in fact it's more than odd and doesn't make sense.

Ah so we could have been in the dizzying heights of 9th in league 1 rather than 17th?


Massive difference.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Ah so we could have been in the dizzying heights of 9th in league 1 rather than 17th?


Massive difference.

How many more points do you think that Leon Clarke woulld have been worth to us if he hadn't gone?

 

[skybluericoh]

Dear mister bank manager, the money for my mortgage has left my bank account and has been put into my Mitchel and Butlers liquid saving account, I would have paid it but the kind man at the bank of England said that he nay be putting up the interest rates. My mate who I appoint executer will advise how much to pay when he has decided what it should be. In the mean time can you call of the bailiffs?

At the end of the day It has NOT been paid, same old SISU, different day.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ah so we could have been in the dizzying heights of 9th in league 1 rather than 17th?


Massive difference.

It kept us out of the play-off picture when otherwise we'd have been right in there. Little doubt it's had a big impact.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Who gives a fuck about ACL? The sooner them and SISU disappear the club can move forward.

Funny that because we require both to agree something in order for that to happen.

 

[ccfc92]

I have to admit, this is the only statement from "the club" that is believable for some time. I see why they want the amount checked, but fail to see how neither companies know how much has been payed. But still, a fairly believable reason to ward off league punishments IMO.

 

[bigfatronssba]

It kept us out of the play-off picture when otherwise we'd have been right in there. Little doubt it's had a big impact.

We still would have finished 9th. To suggest anything else is opinion not fact.

 

[Grendel]

We still would have finished 9th. To suggest anything else is opinion not fact.

You wanted the club relegated anyway didn't you?

Did you care if we were docked the points huh? Would you care if anymore points were docked?

Do you care about the fortunes of the club next season at all?

 

[The Gentleman]

Well, they counted on it. And when it happened, they were left without their anchor tenant, a broken lease and a big empty hole in their coffers.
Voting against the CVA hoping sisu would leave was a mistake that would mean sacking the entire board and strategic management in any normal private business.

Same can be said for Sisu and the catastrophic business decisions they have made regarding CCFC. Continual loses with no sign of anywhere near the return they have put in. Would love to know what bullshit excuses they are giving their investors to promise them a return. Lets not forget Joy said herself that if she knew back then what she knows now..............

 

[bigfatronssba]

You wanted the club relegated anyway didn't you?

Did you care if we were docked the points huh? Would you care if anymore points were docked?

Do you care about the fortunes of the club next season at all?

It's the likes of you that would want us to be relegated if you ask me.

You would have loved to be able to blame acl for that this season. Don't try and pretend otherwise.

 

[The Gentleman]

I don't disagree with you, although the club's owned by a private equity arm rather than the hedge fund.

Now those funds look for anywhere about 7-10 years (I think!) as a timespan. (not that this is really long term, either)

Concerningly... if (if) it was the same fund we started with (the emergence of ARVO suggests maybe not btw, in which case...when will it end!) then the dates given for a new ground etc. would all kind of fit, at least...

They took over in 2007 and even if Legoland was really going to be a reality, there is no way the thing would be up and running for 2017. They like to use Rotherham as an example for the new ground but due to likely objections etc I think the Shrewsbury model would be more of a comparison, from planning to finish nearly 10 years so that model certainly wouldn't fit their timespan.

 

[Grendel]

It's the likes of you that would want us to be relegated if you ask me.

You would have loved to be able to blame acl for that this season. Don't try and pretend otherwise.

Why won't you answer the questions. Truth hurt? Why would I want them relegated? Promotion without playing at the sacred Ricoh would have been hysterical.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Why won't you answer the questions. Truth hurt? Why would I want them relegated? Promotion without playing at the sacred Ricoh would have been hysterical.

That last line tells us everything we need to know about you.

Hysterical for you, heartbreaking for most city fans that such a glorious event was happening outside our fair city.

 

[The Gentleman]

How many more points do you think that Leon Clarke woulld have been worth to us if he hadn't gone?

Certainly more than we finished with and therefore relegation wouldn't have been an issue. The knock on effect would be (and this is holding Pressley true to his word) that with the club saying no contracts sorted before safety was a certainty then if with Leon's goals safety may have been achieved a lot earlier and therefore potentially out of contract players may have had their contracts sorted before the end of the season and thus us having a chance of keeping Murphy, Moussa and possibly another couple too. At least I would have more confidence going into next season.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

They took over in 2007 and even if Legoland was really going to be a reality, there is no way the thing would be up and running for 2017. They like to use Rotherham as an example for the new ground but due to likely objections etc I think the Shrewsbury model would be more of a comparison, from planning to finish nearly 10 years so that model certainly wouldn't fit their timespan.

The given dates being key, rather than the ultimate building...

 

[Grendel]

That last line tells us everything we need to know about you.

Hysterical for you, heartbreaking for most city fans that such a glorious event was happening outside our fair city.

Would you care if the club got relegated while playing at Sixfields?

 

[bigfatronssba]

Would you care if the club got relegated while playing at Sixfields?

It would be unfortunate. Can't say it would matter to me as much as if it happened here.

 

[Grendel]

It would be unfortunate. Can't say it would matter to me as much as if it happened here.

There you go. People have the audacity to slate me on here. I want the club to win every game regardless. I guess I care for the club more than you.

 

[skybluetony176]

Promotion without playing at the sacred Ricoh would have been hysterical.

That statement is equally as appalling as any about wishing relegation on our team.

You really are an idiot.

 

[bigfatronssba]

There you go. People have the audacity to slate me on here. I want the club to win every game regardless. I guess I care for the club more than you.

Not quite the lie you keep peddling that I want the team to be relegated though is it?

 

[Grendel]

That statement is equally as appalling as any about wishing relegation on our team.

You really are an idiot.

That's interesting. Is Ron an idiot as well or because he worships ACL does he get a free ride (so to speak).

 

[Grendel]

Not quite the lie you keep peddling that I want the team to be relegated though is it?

Do you really want to dig out the quote again?

 

[skybluetony176]

That's interesting. Is Ron an idiot as well or because he worships ACL does he get a free ride (so to speak).

Ron only worships ACL in your head. If Ron did wish relegation on the club then his comment would be equally as appalling as yours.

You need to take a hard look at yourself. Your ACL/CCC obsession seems to have robbed you of all sense of morality and love of your club. You are wishing to taint its history for a bit of council bashing.

 

[cloughie]

Why won't you answer the questions. Truth hurt? Why would I want them relegated? Promotion without playing at the sacred Ricoh would have been hysterical.

said the fool who can never answer when challenged about his inaccurate facts,

Oh the irony of a fool

 

[SkyblueBazza]

What sticks out like a sore thumb in that statement for me is "...legally owed..."
It smacks of what opinion I have gained over the last year or so in particular about our owners (SISU...in whatever form they take) - no ethical or moral stance whatsoever it seems in reality. Simply prepared to push right to the limit of the law on everything.


PUSB

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We still would have finished 9th. To suggest anything else is opinion not fact.

I think that a team playing without the handicap of a 10 point deduction before the season starts will invariably play better than the same team with such a handicap. The play-offs became out of reach far sooner than they otherwise would have so the incentive to perform was lost earlier.

 

[Grendel]

Ron only worships ACL in your head. If Ron did wish relegation on the club then his comment would be equally as appalling as yours.

You need to take a hard look at yourself. Your ACL/CCC obsession seems to have robbed you of all sense of morality and love of your club. You are wishing to taint its history for a bit of council bashing.

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/43694-Pressley-Backed/page10?highlight=conference

 

[Astute]

Certainly more than we finished with and therefore relegation wouldn't have been an issue. The knock on effect would be (and this is holding Pressley true to his word) that with the club saying no contracts sorted before safety was a certainty then if with Leon's goals safety may have been achieved a lot earlier and therefore potentially out of contract players may have had their contracts sorted before the end of the season and thus us having a chance of keeping Murphy, Moussa and possibly another couple too. At least I would have more confidence going into next season.

They didn't want to renew contracts. Murphy came out and said that he was willing to take a pay cut to stay with us. This was after the end of the season. He is now looking elsewhere. Looks like SISU are planning another season at Northampton so the funds available for next seasons squad will be very low. If they don't gift our club money we could easily have the lowest budget of the whole of Division 3. Lowest attendances and lowest prices

 

[bigfatronssba]

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/43694-Pressley-Backed/page10?highlight=conference

No one cares Grendel. Give it up mate.

League positions and success on the pitch might be what is important to you in supporting your team, for me there are more important things.

I stand by my words in that ancient post. I would always sacrifice league position to get the club back to Coventry.

It's a shame your loyalty to the city can be bought so cheaply.

I really wouldn't want someone like you watching my back in a crisis.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I think that a team playing without the handicap of a 10 point deduction before the season starts will invariably play better than the same team with such a handicap. The play-offs became out of reach far sooner than they otherwise would have so the incentive to perform was lost earlier.

It can also be stated that the team had no expectations on them at the start of the season therefore the deduction gave them a boost.

We might not have had such a good start without the deduction.