hill83
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It's because he's not been in the paper for a few days.
Enough is enough - Friday is D-day (8 Viewers)
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It's because he's not been in the paper for a few days.
I think that for the very definition of a "childish" statement you should go to the SISU response to their JR loss -a piece of work that their (presumably) highly paid PR people had five days to produce
And why now would anyone not be vehemently anti-SISU? The judgement in the JR represents the only dispassionate, unbiassed and unspun analysis of events since Joy's mob took over and it is a devastating indictment of the mismanagement, misrepresentations, dodgy business practices and downright lies that the club and it's supporters have been subjected to at the hands of SISU
For anyone who clings to the notion that SISU may still be a force for good at the club just look at the mess they had made of things even before we reached the current nadir. There is no better way to predict the future than by looking at the past
For anyone who still (in the face of all the evidence) takes the word(s) of SISU, Fisher, Seppala, Labovitch etc at face value just remind yourself of statements as against deeds and or realities over the last 12 months: new stadium plans within a few weeks promised by Fisher in May of last year, crowds of 7000 at Sixfields (ditto), legal advice from "top lawyers" (who would never, ever give such advice) to the effect that the JR was 100% certain to succeed (ditto), the collapse of the previous agreement being the fault of anyone but SISU - proved to be a lie not to mention any one of a million other claims or boasts based on nothing more than an absolute faith in the kind of bullying tactics that have clearly succeeded for them before in other businesses / investments
Yes the KCIC statement is a bit self-important and will clearly make not one jot of difference to the owners but it is better than simply sitting on this site sniping
Fair enough. If ACL don't get their money, they then can challenge the fl. Although SISU could also offer to release the undisputed part as a show of healing and reconciliation. May help the atmosphere.
Grendel
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Sadly I think you are probably correct.
mark82
Super Moderator
Not sure why the statement is aimed at sisu anyway. ACL are the ones saying they are not currently willing to talk.
Not sure why the 590k is a condition. They are lucky to be getting that after rejecting the CVA. That should have led to them getting next to nothing. Sisu committed to paying it after being told to do so by the football league so they should pay it but shouldn't be a condition of talks.
Can understand their stance on JR appeal too but again shouldn't stop talks starting.
Not sure why the 590k is a condition. They are lucky to be getting that after rejecting the CVA. That should have led to them getting next to nothing. Sisu committed to paying it after being told to do so by the football league so they should pay it but shouldn't be a condition of talks.
Can understand their stance on JR appeal too but again shouldn't stop talks starting.
SIR ERNIE
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zero 'home' fans at sixfields would confirm what the fans think and be a humiliation for sisu.
Nick
Administrator
Because it whips the Facebook followers up into a frenzy. Like some cult
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Sisu don't do humiliation.
Senior Vick from Alicante
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Well said njdlawyer, too many keyboard warriors on this sight that only come on to disparage and argue any opposing view for the fun of it with out putting forward credible proposals of alternative action or discourse. You might not like Michael's views or opinions of his backers but at least he trying to keep the situation in the headlines. Any time Sisu or ACL or CCC are drawn into the headlines it can only help, surely? As for peoples summations of who and why and how we got here we will only know when they are allowed to speak freely with out fear of litigation, the rest is pure conjecture being thrown around by fans who apportion blame to figures with out knowing the reasons decisions were taken and by whom. The one thing IMO that I think fans can be sure of is that we will never get better whilst Sisu, Joy and Fisher are linked to our club, they are a cancer that needs removing and we will drift on life support until they go or turn out the lights permanently.
Nick
Administrator
People put plenty of constructive views about that offer.
mark82
Super Moderator
The irony towards the end of your statement is beautiful.
Samo
Well-Known Member
Won't happen and they wouldn't care if it did.
Never happen people will always want to see the team play even if its a minority of the fanbase.
Time for everyone to grow some balls and take the fight to northampton, marching through coventry is going to achieve naff all.
covmark
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Good post. People's logic seems to be, if you don't blindly follow Michael or you aim some blame at ACL's door, you're a defender and staunch supporter of SISU. Absolute crap.
Nick
Administrator
Or that if you disagree you are attacking him.
Stop attacking him Nick Fisher!
blueflint
Well-Known Member
Ah is this where we are back at are we.even more bickering between fans God I miss all that from last season, cannot wait for the arguments and punch ups to begin between fellow fans again... just what Sisu wanted, give it to them again boys, instead of a united front and taking the fight to them by causing peaceful disruption at home games, but no we dont have the balls for that now do we.
SIR ERNIE
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The Gentleman
Well-Known Member
Is that all people then? Your opinion or fact?
Michael tries, some things he does are good and some things he does aren't. But he is doing something and that is more than most other CCFC fans on here and in general. Do people blindly follow him like he is some sort of Pied Piper, No. Do people agree with his sentiment that we all want CCFC back in Coventry and he see's that Sisu/Otium are really the only ones who can get the ball rolling and make that happen, Yes.
Apart from the odd few on here most rational people who frequent this site understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion (just as Michael is entitled to his) but I don't see too many people calling posters staunch supporters of Sisu so it is only people like you and some others who keep saying that shite that keeps it coming up. Just as there are no staunch supporters of ACL/CCC.
johnniericoh
Member
If D Day is Friday 18/07/14 and the first "home" game of the season starts with a Capital One Cup game on Wednesday 13/08/14 against Cardiff this leaves just 25 days (including 8 weekend days) to have all the required facilities in place ie:
* ticket printing and allocation
* season ticket printing allocation (for Sheff U game on 16/08/14 and onwards)
* car park ticket printing and allocation
* pitch preparation and ground uplift to matchday standards
* advertising media generation
* corporate catering
* general catering
* elf'n safety requirements in place
* staff recruitment
* policing
* other
Do you really think all this will be in place and operational by the first home game particularly when the season ticket allocation alone is normally a tad chaotic ??
Astute
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ACL have not said that they are not willing to talk. They have said that they want the money that should have been paid last week. They also want the futile litigation to stop. The vast majority of us agree that the futile litigation needs to stop. Bridges need to be built. But we have some on here that can't understand that continuing with the litigation doesn't cause yet more harm to the lack of trust.
You also say that SISU are willing to talk. You admit that they are bullshitters. So why do you seem to know that they are being truthful for once?
Astute
Well-Known Member
I would be more worried about having strikers at our club than if ACL could get the stadium ready in time. None of what you mention would take nearly a month. ACL are not like SISU and have not stripped everything to the bone. There is grass where the grass should be. There are seats where the seats should be. The kiosks are still there. But where are our strikers?
sky blue john
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How ?
I never expected it to work but it was worth a try !!
Your attacks however just come across like a jilted lover. Or maybe your problem is that you don't have good keyboard skills !!!
You could always use the phone maybe that's where your talents lie ??
Lol, oh sorry I forgot you got knocked back didn't you !!!
chickentikkamasala
Well-Known Member
Personal insults will never give you credibility, it appears when you are backed into a corner it is your way of coming out fighting. Hiding behind a keyboard to dish out insults is very brave, has anyone actually met you face to face from here?
covmark
Well-Known Member
He's a regular at the wheatsheaf apparently. Get yourself down there.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
I can't imagine any of those things being a problem, at least not to the extent it blocks a return.
The club is selling tickets already, the Ricoh would not be full so if there's not time for re-allocation of seats make it general admission.
The pitch will be ready as they have that academy playing games there this season.
Advertising may take time but I imagine local companies would move fairly quickly on that.
ACL / Compass have catering in place already as they do other functions there, can't see it being a problem to place an order at short notice.
Health & safety must already be in place else the Ricoh wouldn't be able to open for any events. Sure if anything in particular was needed CCC could get it done as a priority.
The only staff that would be needed would be stewards wouldn't it? Sure they club have a record of the stewards and could get them back in and ACL must have casual stewarding staff they use for larger events.
Finally policing, I'm pretty sure the police said at the start of last season they could be in place at short notice if required.
I don't think there's any logistical reason that given a week or two's notice would be a problem.
Worse case scenario we play a couple of games at Sixfields, I'm sure someone (Brighton?) have changed grounds mid-season before and the FL are very flexible with their rules as we all know!
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limoncello
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That's more like it. Well done, the Trust.
No future with SISU
New Member
The money is in SISU control, all they have to do is say to the FL is release the money to ACL.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Good letter. Both sides need to compromise a little, ACL should accept the money is under the control of the FL, that should only be a block if it turns out not to be true, which we'll know by the start of the season. Sisu should drop the frankly ludicrous legal action to show they can be trusted to work with ACL.
Not sure why revenues need to be a sticking point to a short term negotiation though.
Surely the point of a short term return is to give time to sort out details like that that are massive sticking points so far.
Far better IMO to push for a short term deal, then if we can't agree revenues, etc by the end of next season we build a new ground. Put some deadlines and timescales together and stop pissing around in this limbo. Leaving in revenues as a condition is just unnecessary obstacles. Everyone agrees on two things:
- In the short term the club is better at the Ricoh than Sixfields
- In the long term the club needs access to revenues, however that may come
Surely start from there?
Not sure why revenues need to be a sticking point to a short term negotiation though.
Surely the point of a short term return is to give time to sort out details like that that are massive sticking points so far.
Far better IMO to push for a short term deal, then if we can't agree revenues, etc by the end of next season we build a new ground. Put some deadlines and timescales together and stop pissing around in this limbo. Leaving in revenues as a condition is just unnecessary obstacles. Everyone agrees on two things:
- In the short term the club is better at the Ricoh than Sixfields
- In the long term the club needs access to revenues, however that may come
Surely start from there?