With Just a Little Success Our Club Could Really Take Off... (3 Viewers)

Samo

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...couldn't it?
 

hill83

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Yes.

We've got the setup to be a lower Premier league club with the right investment and a shit ton of luck.
 

stupot07

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Don't want to be a damp squib, but can't see us being anymore than midtable championship side....

Can we just get out of league one before any of this talk...

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Malaka

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Totally agree. I think we can get a run together and jump the leagues Southampton style. Always the eternal optimist. I dreamed the other night we got to wembley and played a team in blue and black stripes (Inter Milan style) woke up before the score or if it was a cup match or a play off. Last time I had a wembley dream was before a ball had been kicked in the 86/87 season and I had city to beat Spurs 2-1. Close but no cigar. Who plays in blue and black stripes?
 

fernandopartridge

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Call me mr unambitious but being a competitive championship side would suit me. Could not be arsed with the PL and the ridiculous hype + all the wankers who crawl out of the woodwork
 

hill83

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Call me mr unambitious but being a competitive championship side would suit me. Could not be arsed with the PL and the ridiculous hype + all the wankers who crawl out of the woodwork

Looks like you are supporting the right team then.
 

stupot07

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I think we need to acknowledge that Southampton's wage bill was £29m that season whilst our entire turnover was just c£10.5m. Can we not use them as a benchmark


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Samo

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Totally agree. I think we can get a run together and jump the leagues Southampton style. Always the eternal optimist. I dreamed the other night we got to wembley and played a team in blue and black stripes (Inter Milan style) woke up before the score or if it was a cup match or a play off. Last time I had a wembley dream was before a ball had been kicked in the 86/87 season and I had city to beat Spurs 2-1. Close but no cigar. Who plays in blue and black stripes?

Inter Milan do, probably a Champions League Final. :whistle:
 

hill83

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Totally agree. I think we can get a run together and jump the leagues Southampton style. Always the eternal optimist. I dreamed the other night we got to wembley and played a team in blue and black stripes (Inter Milan style) woke up before the score or if it was a cup match or a play off. Last time I had a wembley dream was before a ball had been kicked in the 86/87 season and I had city to beat Spurs 2-1. Close but no cigar. Who plays in blue and black stripes?

Gillingham did a couple of seasons ago.
 

chiefdave

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I think we could be a sustainable championship side but at that point you hit the issue that you're competing with teams who will happily lose millions a year. Of course spending more doesn't automatically make you successful but it certainly helps.

Problem is what do we class as success? Getting back in the championship, getting in the prem and fighting relegation every year? Increasingly there's a problem that the top handful of clubs are so far ahead of everyone else its uncompetitive. Even teams like Arsenal with a sold out Emirates every week struggle to compete. Look at Southampton, developed a team that performed very well last season but instead of being able to build on that their squad has been picked off by other clubs.
 

Gint11

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I think at our very pinnacle we could be a mid-low Premier league club but we need a million things to happen for that. Right now we need to just focus with small steps. Step 1, Beat Swindon and work to get out of this league.
 

Samo

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Call me mr unambitious but being a competitive championship side would suit me. Could not be arsed with the PL and the ridiculous hype + all the wankers who crawl out of the woodwork

I could.
 

Samo

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I think we could be a sustainable championship side but at that point you hit the issue that you're competing with teams who will happily lose millions a year. Of course spending more doesn't automatically make you successful but it certainly helps.

Problem is what do we class as success? Getting back in the championship, getting in the prem and fighting relegation every year? Increasingly there's a problem that the top handful of clubs are so far ahead of everyone else its uncompetitive. Even teams like Arsenal with a sold out Emirates every week struggle to compete. Look at Southampton, developed a team that performed very well last season but instead of being able to build on that their squad has been picked off by other clubs.

Yeh and banked 120 million which they could reinvest.
 

Otis

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...couldn't it?


Yes! Been saying this for years and years. This is why any smaller, cheaper new stadium is plain daft. As soon as we have any concerted success the Ricoh is in no way too big for us.

At the end of the day a lot of kids follow success in choosing their team. If one of the teams having success happens to be Coventry City FC then there is a greater likliehood they will choose us as the team to support.
 

Samo

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Yes! Been saying this for years and years. This is why any smaller, cheaper new stadium is plain daft. As soon as we have any concerted success the Ricoh is in no way too big for us.

At the end of the day a lot of kids follow success in choosing their team. If one of the teams having success happens to be Coventry City FC then there is a greater likliehood they will choose us as the team to support.

Agreed. Great potential here and the most success starved fans in football.
 

Skyblueweeman

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I think we need to acknowledge that Southampton's wage bill was £29m that season whilst our entire turnover was just c£10.5m. Can we not use them as a benchmark


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And they were taken over by a Billionaire whilst we've been taken over by penny pinchers!
 

fernandopartridge

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Agreed. Great potential here and the most success starved fans in football.
No more potential than most championship clubs imo. Forest, Derby, Wolves, Sheff W, Leeds, Blackburn, Ipswich, Reading all show more potential than City.

Look at the pathetic 10k average gate in League 1 and compare it to those clubs Cov fans compare us to.
 

hill83

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No more potential than most championship clubs imo. Forest, Derby, Wolves, Sheff W, Leeds, Blackburn, Ipswich, Reading all show more potential than City.

Look at the pathetic 10k average gate in League 1 and compare it to those clubs Cov fans compare us to.

I agree, that's where the luck needs to come in.
 

Otis

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No more potential than most championship clubs imo. Forest, Derby, Wolves, Sheff W, Leeds, Blackburn, Ipswich, Reading all show more potential than City.

Look at the pathetic 10k average gate in League 1 and compare it to those clubs Cov fans compare us to.

All those teams listed above have had success and promotions. We have had nothing at all for nigh on 30 years.
 

Samo

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No more potential than
most championship clubs imo. Forest, Derby, Wolves, Sheff W, Leeds, Blackburn, Ipswich, Reading all show more potential than City.

Look at the pathetic 10k average gate in League 1 and compare it to those clubs Cov fans compare us to.

But those clubs have all had promotions, periods of relative success rather a spirit grinding mediocrity or worse for year after year. Leeds, yes, massive. Blackburn? Ipswich? Not for me.
 

Samo

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This is the new excuse but in itself shows the lack of potential. Cov fans are fairweather.

How does it?
Most fans are fairweather, and could you tell me when the weather was last fair?
 

Samo

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30 years if only,I make it more like 44 years since we last had just a top 6 finish.

44 years without a top six finish and our fans are accused of being fairweather.
 

stupot07

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32k at £5 a pop vs Crewe a game from Wembley. 4 days later 11k vs Yeovil in the league. #fairweather

Yep, and the Yeovil game was arguably bigger, we would have been within 1 point of play offs had we won that.


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stupot07

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44 years without a top six finish and our fans are accused of being fairweather.

We won the FA cup in between and all bar what 12-13 years of those 44 years we were in the top flight where the chance of a top 6 finish was was pretty much impossible. That for me is where the top 6 argument falls down. Finishing 6th in league two is greater than playing in the PL...

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Ashdown

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Call me mr unambitious but being a competitive championship side would suit me. Could not be arsed with the PL and the ridiculous hype + all the wankers who crawl out of the woodwork

I'd suggest we'd need a backer with serious cash to propel us any further than this anyway.
 

letsallsingtogether

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Oh I forgot Yeovil such a crowd puller,
what if it had been Blues, WBA, Incester or the Vile the next game would we have seen a bigger crowd then.

What crowds would the above teams have had against Yeovil and the likes?

We get an above average gate for this piss poor league.

32k at £5 a pop vs Crewe a game from Wembley. 4 days later 11k vs Yeovil in the league. #fairweather
 

fernandopartridge

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We won the FA cup in between and all bar what 12-13 years of those 44 years we were in the top flight where the chance of a top 6 finish was was pretty much impossible. That for me is where the top 6 argument falls down. Finishing 6th in league two is greater than playing in the PL...

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The irony is that the dream is to be a mid table PL team. Just two top 6 finishes in 46 years will bring them flooding back. ....
 

fernandopartridge

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Oh I forgot Yeovil such a crowd puller,
what if it had been Blues, WBA, Incester or the Vile the next game would we have seen a bigger crowd then.

What crowds would the above teams have had against Yeovil and the likes?

We get an above average gate for this piss poor league.
Thanks. You've defined fair weather for me. Well done.
 

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