Coventry story on radio in Brighton (20 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Oh look it's Mr Pot

Let's be honest in pure numbers Robs view is a minority one and one with a massive angle as leader of the fans group no one wanted.

He may be right he may be wrong, but he's certainly not representative.

Let's be honest we don't know the majority view if regular supporters.

Many people on here express an opinion on something they do not actually attend. That's akin to having a view on UKIP whilst living in America and never visiting the uk .

It is irrelevant .

 

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[Astute]

Let's be honest we don't know the majority view if regular supporters.

Many people on here express an opinion on something they do not actually attend. That's akin to having a view on UKIP whilst living in America and never visiting the uk .

It is irrelevant .

Irrelevant?

As you all know I live away from Coventry. But I know for sure you are wrong. This is unless those that I do talk to are different to the majority somehow. There are not that many of you trying to blame CCC/ACL/Higgs all the time without mentioning SISU. Just about all the talk is what SISU are going to do next. Are they going to make an offer? Are they going to stop the litigation? Is Fisher going to stop his bullshit? Usual comments. Not the anti CCC stuff you come out with.

 

[Grendel]

Irrelevant?

As you all know I live away from Coventry. But I know for sure you are wrong. This is unless those that I do talk to are different to the majority somehow. There are not that many of you trying to blame CCC/ACL/Higgs all the time without mentioning SISU. Just about all the talk is what SISU are going to do next. Are they going to make an offer? Are they going to stop the litigation? Is Fisher going to stop his bullshit? Usual comments. Not the anti CCC stuff you come out with.

What I am saying we have 10,000 supporters - same ones broadly who were there two seasons ago. I asked the people round me if they had been to Sixfields - out of - 10 - 7 had

Most of those will just support the team live game to game and not care whose to blame.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

and one with a massive angle as leader of the fans group no one wanted.

tbf, you may as well have put 'a Coventry City fan group'!

 

[Astute]

What I am saying we have 10,000 supporters - same ones broadly who were there two seasons ago. I asked the people round me if they had been to Sixfields - out of - 10 - 7 had

Most of those will just support the team live game to game and not care whose to blame.

So 8 out of 11 of you went to Northampton? I only know a few who did go. I would go as far as saying at least 8 out of 11 didn't go. And that was also shown by the attendances.

And if you don't care who is to blame why do you always have a pop at CCC/ACL/Higgs?

 

[Tonylinc]

What I am saying we have 10,000 supporters - same ones broadly who were there two seasons ago. I asked the people round me if they had been to Sixfields - out of - 10 - 7 had. That is absolute rubbish! If it were true then the attendance at Sixfields would have been much higher.

 

[Grendel]

What I am saying we have 10,000 supporters - same ones broadly who were there two seasons ago. I asked the people round me if they had been to Sixfields - out of - 10 - 7 had. That is absolute rubbish! If it were true then the attendance at Sixfields would have been much higher.

No it wouldn't - I went to 2 games, one went to three, two others went to one - one had a season ticket.

It's not rocket science is it?

 

[Astute]

No it wouldn't - I went to 2 games, one went to three, two others went to one - one had a season ticket.

It's not rocket science is it?

That is 5 and not 8 out of 11

 

[Tonylinc]

So you class the "occasional", supporter as a regular. Says it all really.

 

[skybluetony176]

What I am saying we have 10,000 supporters - same ones broadly who were there two seasons ago. I asked the people round me if they had been to Sixfields - out of - 10 - 7 had

Most of those will just support the team live game to game and not care whose to blame.

Perhaps they misheard you and they thought you said MK. There is no way that 70% of our fan base went to Northampton even if you include those who went to the hill.

The attendance figures prove that beyond doubt.

 

[Grendel]

Perhaps they misheard you and they thought you said MK. There is no way that 70% of our fan base went to Northampton even if you include those who went to the hill.

The attendance figures prove that beyond doubt.

No they don't. Technically over 40,000 could have attend - do the maths.

 

[skybluetony176]

No they don't. Technically over 40,000 could have attend - do the maths.

You need to do the reality.

 

[Astute]

No they don't. Technically over 40,000 could have attend - do the maths.

The hill must be massive.

 

[Nick]

As I said, other fans would be pissing themselves.

"Bring us back to Coventry and I will go to games, I miss my club and this move is killing me, my kids will never get to see Coventry play in Coventry"
"Actually we are back now. Make ticket prices cheaper and I will come to games"
"Actually now the club has done the decent match package, I will only go if we are in the top 6"

Which fans of other teams would get so worked up about the stadium owners getting rent paid on time? I doubt many give a shite.

The chain goes on.

 

[spider_ricoh]

Rob S is a good bloke and I enjoy having a few pints (and the occasional curry) with him - he's done a lot of good work and he cares. I wouldn't fault his effort and commitment as a City fan.

But.... he does come across as very anti-ACL / pro-SISU (not necessarily his actual views when you talk to him), and he certainly isn't speaking for the majority of fans. It is safe to say he holds SISU, and Joy especially, in far higher regard than most City fans who hate her guts and want her gone.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

OR
Supporters who
Love our owners
Hate everything CCC
Hate the Local charity who helped save the Club
Would like to see the same charity go bust
Hate the Ricoh
Think all City fans are Fickle, alcoholics shit and stingy
Hang on every word Mr Fisher makes
Believe we should be better supported due to our success in the last 15 years.
And believe that a ground outside the boundaries of this City would be good for the Club, even though that has been tried to disastrous effect.


He's right better stay away.

By balanced argument by the way he means pro council and pro ACL piffle.

I wouldn't stick around if I were you. You'll be reporting on supporters who;

Hate franchise football - unless its Mk Dons
Are ok with franchise rugby - even if the local rugby club don't want it
Can't stand hedge funds unless they finance London Wasps
Want anyone to own the ground other than those who own the football club
Have never considered £1.3 million a year plus matchday costs in rent to be at a detrimental

 

[letsallsingtogether]

And don't we know it!!!

Ask him about Ken and co next time you see him?

Rob S is a good bloke and I enjoy having a few pints (and the occasional curry) with him - he's done a lot of good work and he cares. I wouldn't fault his effort and commitment as a City fan.

But.... he does come across as very anti-ACL / pro-SISU (not necessarily his actual views when you talk to him), and he certainly isn't speaking for the majority of fans. It is safe to say he holds SISU, and Joy especially, in far higher regard than most City fans who hate her guts and want her gone.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Rob S is a good bloke and I enjoy having a few pints (and the occasional curry) with him - he's done a lot of good work and he cares. I wouldn't fault his effort and commitment as a City fan.

But.... he does come across as very anti-ACL / pro-SISU (not necessarily his actual views when you talk to him), and he certainly isn't speaking for the majority of fans. It is safe to say he holds SISU, and Joy especially, in far higher regard than most City fans who hate her guts and want her gone.

Well I don't suppose he spends that much time in the ACL boardroom

 

[Flying Fokker]

By balanced argument by the way he means pro council and pro ACL piffle.

I wouldn't stick around if I were you. You'll be reporting on supporters who;

Hate franchise football - unless its Mk Dons
Are ok with franchise rugby - even if the local rugby club don't want it
Can't stand hedge funds unless they finance London Wasps
Want anyone to own the ground other than those who own the football club
Have never considered £1.3 million a year plus matchday costs in rent to be at a detrimental

You actually listened to the podcast? : ) I didn't, life is too short. It is easy to have a bias when you support the team from Brighton. Does he go to any of our matches?

 

[TLO]

As I said, other fans would be pissing themselves.

"Bring us back to Coventry and I will go to games, I miss my club and this move is killing me, my kids will never get to see Coventry play in Coventry"
"Actually we are back now. Make ticket prices cheaper and I will come to games"
"Actually now the club has done the decent match package, I will only go if we are in the top 6"

Which fans of other teams would get so worked up about the stadium owners getting rent paid on time? I doubt many give a shite.

The chain goes on.

Not pissing myself - just flabbergasted that something so important (the future stability of your club) is apparently being fought over by what appears to be feuding children.

I'm not one to take sides - the issues do seem more complex than a 20 minutes natter in a podcast could ever cover - but I would say this, as someone with bitter and prolonged experience of fighting for a football club which so nearly went of the league (and hence out of existence - we could never have sustained life in the Conference in Gillingham) one thing is imperative; a football club can never progress if the fans are not united. It isn't possible.

I'm not intending to patronise or preach - my apologies if it comes across that way - but it leaves me scratching my head when a club with such a rich and proud history as Coventry City has bickering fans like bitter siblings fighting over which is the best method of resolving their mother's hip replacement issues.

Yours is a great club; someone just needs to bang your bloody heads together.

I've finished now, (it's my birthday and I've had a couple of jinkies) and I apologise as it's not strictly my business, but please - sort yourselves out.

 

[Frisky blue]

As I said, other fans would be pissing themselves.

"Bring us back to Coventry and I will go to games, I miss my club and this move is killing me, my kids will never get to see Coventry play in Coventry"
"Actually we are back now. Make ticket prices cheaper and I will come to games"
"Actually now the club has done the decent match package, I will only go if we are in the top 6"

Which fans of other teams would get so worked up about the stadium owners getting rent paid on time? I doubt many give a shite.

The chain goes on.

So you are content that we are owned by the worst owners in the history of English football, content that we are a mediocre team, in the third division, with crap players, playing the worst football in our history?
You are easily pleased, no wonder sisu don't give a shit about us fans. You and the likes of Grendel are embarrassing. You are right, fans of other clubs must piss themselves reading some of the comments on here.
It's all the council's, ACL's,the HIggs trust's and the fans' fault though isn't it?
True football fans want what is best for our club, and will never be content with mediocrity, why should we just accept what sisu are doing to our club?

 

[fernandopartridge]

So you are content that we are owned by the worst owners in the history of English football, content that we are a mediocre team, in the third division, with crap players, playing the worst football in our history?
You are easily pleased, no wonder sisu don't give a shit about us fans. You and the likes of Grendel are embarrassing. You are right, fans of other clubs must piss themselves reading some of the comments on here.
It's all the council's, ACL's,the HIggs trust's and the fans' fault though isn't it?
True football fans want what is best for our club, and will never be content with mediocrity, why should we just accept what sisu are doing to our club?

Nobody has ever given exclusivity of blame to one side. Apart from some of the muffins on here who are usually the first ones to scream bias.

SISU have been an unmitigated disaster but CCC and ACL respectively don't come out of the story well. That said, in their defence they aren't ultimately responsible for the football club.

The idea that ACL or CCC are beyond reproach if they sell 90% of the business to Wasps is laughable but typical of the double standards on here.

 

[Frisky blue]

No they don't. Technically over 40,000 could have attend - do the maths.

Ffs!
:thinking about:

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Nobody has ever given exclusivity of blame to one side. Apart from some of the muffins on here who are usually the first ones to scream bias.

SISU have been an unmitigated disaster but CCC and ACL respectively don't come out of the story well. That said, in their defence they aren't ultimately responsible for the football club.

The idea that ACL or CCC are beyond reproach if they sell 90% of the business to Wasps is laughable but typical of the double standards on here.

When do you think the clubs owners will bother to put an offer in for the 90%?

 

[Frisky blue]

Nobody has ever given exclusivity of blame to one side. Apart from some of the muffins on here who are usually the first ones to scream bias.

SISU have been an unmitigated disaster but CCC and ACL respectively don't come out of the story well. That said, in their defence they aren't ultimately responsible for the football club.

The idea that ACL or CCC are beyond reproach if they sell 90% of the business to Wasps is laughable but typical of the double standards on here.

But With all due respect Fernando, CCC, ACL, or anybody else for that matter, do not own Coventry City Football Club, sisu or one of their subsidiaries do, therefore they alone are responsible for this disaster. Like the Brighton fan has stated, we should all be together on this one. Nobody but the owners are to blame, the council do not sign or sell our players, ACL do not sign or sell our players, I know who is responsible, and so should everyone else.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Nothing happens in isolation

 

[fernandopartridge]

When do you think the clubs owners will bother to put an offer in for the 90%?

That isn't the point I'm making.

Why is 90% on the table now?

 

[Rusty Trombone]

That isn't the point I'm making.

Why is 90% on the table now?

I know it wasn't the point you were making. Now that it would appear someone may have put an acceptable offer together do you think SISU should try and match the offer or not?

I guess they are available now because someone's put an acceptable offer in, seems pretty straightforward.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I know it wasn't the point you were making. Now that it would appear someone may have put an acceptable offer together do you think SISU should try and match the offer or not?

I guess they are available now because someone's put an acceptable offer in, seems pretty straightforward.

The offer is commercially confidential I believe so what are SISU trying to match?

 

[Astute]

The offer is commercially confidential I believe so what are SISU trying to match?

You are right. Negotiating seriously and paying money are not their strongest points.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

The offer is commercially confidential I believe so what are SISU trying to match?

Well I suppose they do a similar amount of work to any existing bidder getting to a valuation that they think works for them, and then put a offer in, if the answer is no, then I imagine they haven't matched the offer, then carry on that process until you get a yes, or you don't think you'd ever make any money from your offer.

Not sure what the hold up is.

 

[sky blue john]

Does anyone believe that this development wasn't the reason Sisu suddenly brought the club back out of the blue ?

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Does anyone believe that this development wasn't the reason Sisu suddenly brought the club back out of the blue ?

I don't. I think their investors are fed up losing their money, and coming back at least means they shouldn't be losing money with this current team.

 

[Astute]

Does anyone believe that this development wasn't the reason Sisu suddenly brought the club back out of the blue ?

I would put it down to losing the JR so badly and lack of support in Northampton as much. I wouldn't put it down to any single reason. But you would hope that they are negotiating behind the scenes. We don't need to know anything until it is done. And they have gone quiet.

 

[sky blue john]

I don't. I think their investors are fed up losing their money, and coming back at least means they shouldn't be losing money with this current team.

I agree this would have been part of the decision. But don't you think it was strange that it happened a couple of games into the season and not before the season started?
Rob S mentioned that there is a prospectus out there in the financial sector surely Sisu would have got wind of this ?