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MichaelCCFC

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The level of arguing on here seems worse than ever and City fans turning on each other is a real cause for despair.

I criticise sisu for what they've done to our club. I criticise the council for the wasps deal. I criticise wasps for coming here. I never took sides in the pro/anti sisu/acl arguments on here. All I want is what's best for the team and the fans. So anyone fancy a discussion which is not having a go at each other, not being pro/anti wasps, not repeating arguments about sisu/ccc which have already been repeated countless times on here, but about what practical steps we as fans can take to try to save our club (and no pipe dreams about wasps buying us, a new stadium being built, sisu suddenly having a change of heart etc please). Or failing that, at least at xmas time have a bit of civility to each other?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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I plan on watching a home City game for the first time since January 2013 next weekend and am very much looking forward to it. If we lose I can always try and smuggle Pressley, Fleck and Webster back up to Scotland ;)
 
SkyBlue_Bear83

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Mike you're one of the better posters even if I don't always agree with you. Some on here just come on here to deliberately antagonise and I doubt they will stop.
 
Bill Glazier

Bill Glazier

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Look, we're going to get arguing with the state of things as they are. It's not a time to be happy frankly, with Sisu's sole plan seemingly to turn us into little more than a puppy farm selling off any decent player the academy turns out. There's a lot to be angry about.
 
Gazolba

Gazolba

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Arguing is healthy. Ask any married person. Mock agreement festers and eventually explodes.
 
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turlykerd

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I plan on watching a home City game for the first time since January 2013 next weekend and am very much looking forward to it. If we lose I can always try and smuggle Pressley, Fleck and Webster back up to Scotland ;)
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Just seen my first home game for ages on Saturday with my lad and we had a great time

I've missed the banter and the whole match day experience

And maybe, we have a new fan for life too (I'm proud and sorry at the same time)
 
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AndreasB

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MichaelCCFC said:
The level of arguing on here seems worse than ever and City fans turning on each other is a real cause for despair.

I criticise sisu for what they've done to our club. I criticise the council for the wasps deal. I criticise wasps for coming here. I never took sides in the pro/anti sisu/acl arguments on here. All I want is what's best for the team and the fans. So anyone fancy a discussion which is not having a go at each other, not being pro/anti wasps, not repeating arguments about sisu/ccc which have already been repeated countless times on here, but about what practical steps we as fans can take to try to save our club (and no pipe dreams about wasps buying us, a new stadium being built, sisu suddenly having a change of heart etc please). Or failing that, at least at xmas time have a bit of civility to each other?
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You have been one of the most divisive influences on Cov fans so dont come on here pleading for fan unity you fucking weirdo.
 
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jas365

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Sky Blues said:
All I want for Christmas is Sisu out.
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Well that's something that pretty much all the forum can at least agree on!

I was only saying the other day how much this place had descended in t he last 12-18 months, pretty much every thread just turns into an argument. I'd wager that we are the most divided fans in the country right now.
 
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Steve.B50

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MichaelCCFC said:
The level of arguing on here seems worse than ever and City fans turning on each other is a real cause for despair.

I criticise sisu for what they've done to our club. I criticise the council for the wasps deal. I criticise wasps for coming here. I never took sides in the pro/anti sisu/acl arguments on here. All I want is what's best for the team and the fans. So anyone fancy a discussion which is not having a go at each other, not being pro/anti wasps, not repeating arguments about sisu/ccc which have already been repeated countless times on here, but about what practical steps we as fans can take to try to save our club (and no pipe dreams about wasps buying us, a new stadium being built, sisu suddenly having a change of heart etc please). Or failing that, at least at xmas time have a bit of civility to each other?
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Well said Michael
Nice to see you on here, seems a little quiet with out you around.

Am very much in agreement.

Steve
 
Astute

Astute

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Gazolba said:
Arguing is healthy. Ask any married person.
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I don't argue with my wife. I let her make the decisions. But when I don't like the decision that she has made I tell her she is wrong and it won't be happening. She is happy because she thinks that she decides nearly everything. I am happy because I get everything I want :D
 
westofrayne

westofrayne

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italiahorse said:
I see the price of eggs has gone up at Tesco's.
Free range or Not?
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I get mine directly from a chicken farm here in Rayne, Essex which is not owned by a hedge fund, or by local council, and there are no wasps in there, is this OK. (Buy the way so much better when they have sh**e on the shell!!)

It would be great to all be talking about the team on the pitch and performances, but until there is a vast improvement in performances and results, all I can see is more argument threads.

Before KO on Saturday, I had a Twitter discussion with a fellow supporter on the state of the Richo stadium area, there was smash glass bottles around the casino and the walk up the steps from the crossing, not acceptable, but I was more interested in the discussion rather than the team news. This is not a good place to be at the moment, just hope things improve in Jan
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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You forgot "Up The Wasps!"

Steve.B50 said:
Well said Michael
Nice to see you on here, seems a little quiet with out you around.

Am very much in agreement.

Steve
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henry the wasp

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I think the fans are in a virtual civil war. Things will only get better when sisu do one.
Whether the people who come in are any better remains to be seen.
 
TrueSkyBlueLiam

TrueSkyBlueLiam

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I plan on watching a home City game for the first time since January 2013 next weekend and am very much looking forward to it. If we lose I can always try and smuggle Pressley, Fleck and Webster back up to Scotland ;)
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You can take Fleck and Webster. Both done nothing this season. Leave us with Pressley tho :p
 
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MichaelCCFC

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Bill Glazier said:
Look, we're going to get arguing with the state of things as they are. It's not a time to be happy frankly, with Sisu's sole plan seemingly to turn us into little more than a puppy farm selling off any decent player the academy turns out. There's a lot to be angry about.
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Definitely lots to be angry about but is it better for fans to argue with each other or channel that anger into focusing on fighting for our club?
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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Jack Griffin

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italiahorse said:
I'm not sure. Some on here have replaced Sisu with Wasps.
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That is where a major hypocrisy lies, on the one hand some say it is OK for a hedge fund to exploit a weakness in a stadium owning business because they own CCFC, but the same people say it isn't OK for a different fund to do something similar that denies the other hedge fund their opportunity.

Sorry guys, there is no special case anyone is going to make for CCFC, you can bawl about it all you want but if they are in the shit it is down to bad management of the owners alone.

Its a tragedy and there may well be worse to come.
 
Nick

Nick

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Jack Griffin said:
That is where a major hypocrisy lies, on the one hand some say it is OK for a hedge fund to exploit a weakness in a stadium owning business because they own CCFC, but the same people say it isn't OK for a different fund to do something similar that denies the other hedge fund their opportunity.

Sorry guys, there is no special case anyone is going to make for CCFC, you can bawl about it all you want but if they are in the shit it is down to bad management of the owners alone.

Its a tragedy and there may well be worse to come.
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I think you will find it's the other way round, the people saying it's not ok for ccfc but is ok for wasps...

The people who have gone on and on about hedge funds owning the ricoh that now justify wasps owning it.

The ones saying sisu were ripping off a charity, but wasps was just business.

Nobody can blame wasps for getting a deal of the century can they? They bought a healthy business that was going from strength to strength for pennies.
 
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Jack Griffin

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Nick said:
I think you will find it's the other way round, the people saying it's not ok for ccfc but is ok for wasps...

The people who have gone on and on about hedge funds owning the ricoh that now justify wasps owning it.

The ones saying sisu were ripping off a charity, but wasps was just business.

Nobody can blame wasps for getting a deal of the century can they? They bought a healthy business that was going from strength to strength for pennies.
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If you believe that then aren't you saying SISU made a gross error. In actual fact I think the deal was about £20M, but the lions share is in a loan, just think of it as a mortgage.

Anyway, you failed to read my post carefully enough, I said "a major hypocrisy" not "the only hypocrisy".
 
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Nick

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Jack Griffin said:
If you believe that then aren't you saying SISU made a gross error. In actual fact I think the deal was about £20M, but the loins share is in a loan, just think of it as a mortgage.

Anyway, you failed to read my post carefully enough, I said "a major hypocrisy" not "the only hypocrisy".
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The healthy business bit was tongue in cheek ;)
 
Houchens Head

Houchens Head

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Is this the right room for an arguement?
 
Senior Vick from Alicante

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Fans will never be united behind the owners we have. They have split the fans with miss direction and smoke and mirrors to the point of apathy now. We are constantly lied too by a chief exec that only ever talks about F and B revenue and the need to own our own ground. They had the chance to do this over 7 years and failed spectacularly so the blame game starts, it was the councils fault its the charity's fault or its wasps fault. People will continue to argue their corner, I will continue to blame the pathetic management who own our club and the people who run the game for their inability to stop owners such as ours holding a football club to ransom for personal gain. All I want is 15000 Coventry supporters watching the team they love play attractive football we can all enjoy and be proud of instead of the turgid fair that is put on offer now, one other hope for xmas is Sisu have lots of funds and clients money invested in oil and that they sink as quick as the price of a barrel of crude.
 
italiahorse

italiahorse

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Nick said:
I think you will find it's the other way round, the people saying it's not ok for ccfc but is ok for wasps...

The people who have gone on and on about hedge funds owning the ricoh that now justify wasps owning it.

The ones saying sisu were ripping off a charity, but wasps was just business.

Nobody can blame wasps for getting a deal of the century can they? They bought a healthy business that was going from strength to strength for pennies.
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Sisu were destroying the club, destroying the infrastructure of northern Coventry and destroying the fanbase in an attempt to profit themselves.
At least now there is a chance the infrastructure can flourish. Just watch the planning applications for the hotels and car showroom etc get resurrected.

Sisu need to concentrate on the other 2.
A valid attempt needs to be made for a case at the Ricoh and if it's shown that it can't happen there then during the next 2 years Sisu can present a case, get planning permission for the new stadium and then have it built within the 4 years.
TF saying it can't happen at the Ricoh without showing us the figures is not good enough, particularly as a lot of believe that up to now it is just to drive the price of the stadium down.
Continuing the fight with CCC and now Wasps leaves only one option available and many of us believe CCFC cannot afford to build the stadium and that renting from Sisu leaves back at square one.
 
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