Grendel
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So if man city were a league one club with the same rent deal that they are now they would be ok?
Lol just lol.
New stadium - Okay, let's just suppose for a moment (22 Viewers)
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So if man city were a league one club with the same rent deal that they are now they would be ok?
Lol just lol.
Sky Blue Kid
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@ Samo....I'll just say this to you mate................................Gillingham 
italiahorse
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Grendel
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Seriously can you show me where it says they own 50% as every article I see is a third.
Astute
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Next you be remembering that they built a ground for our club and gave us
skybluetony176
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skybluebeduff
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Samo
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@ Samo....I'll just say this to you mate................................Gillingham
Erm... I believe SISU were in charge of the club when that game took place.
italiahorse
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If they are on a peppercorn rent then yes.
The fact is we don't know what the rent is now, we also don't know what incomes we have access to.
We do know that TF has asked for a fifth year.
We have seen no information on financing a new stadium, who owns it, how much rent will we pay and what incomes will go to the club.
Yet people believe a new stadium is the way forward. How do they know ?
Grendel
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They pay £3 million a year in rent, hence my statement.
italiahorse
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Astute
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I suppose you want us to play this game to your rules. Does this include pretending that Man City has always been a Prem side playing to a full house?
Sky Blue Kid
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@ Grendel..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...00.html................................... @ Samo....Exactly mate, what would happen with new owners do you think? Took my words before I could type it lol.
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Cheshire Sky Blue
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Many don't go to the Arena because the football is very poor, the team is the worst we have had in many decades, and they hate SISU.
I for one think the RICOH is a great stadium, but I am sorely tempted not to go because of all the shit that we have had to put up with. The team is poor and the tactics even worse, and I have started to loose the faith. And that has nowt to do with the stadium.
Astute
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But why doesn't the Swansea owner want to own their own ground? I keep hearing on here that we will never do any good without ownership.
Samo
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SBK, are you seriously suggesting that 18-20k of the Gills crowd were loyal CCFC fans and the only thing preventing their attendance (which they managed to overcome on this occassion) is sisu? Really?
Astute
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Yeah. Crap manager. Crap players. Crap football.
chiefdave
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At the moment they pay a peppercorn rent and receive the revenues, a great deal. If we could get similar from Wasps we should jump at the chance but I can't see them offering that. We will be paying a much higher rent and receiving less in revenues.
torchomatic
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Astute
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Didn't someone show last week that they paid over 1m a year then tried to make out that the revenue receipts were profit?
Samo
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Is it further than Northampton?
Astute
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Sky Blue Kid
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Samo....What I 'm saying is I think that 18-20k fans would be at least the norm with good owners in charge that think of the team rather than their "Investors" and "Back pocketing every penny that is generated by the team. These crowds were the norm before SISU arrived, and IMHO will be the norm when they have F**ked off mate
Astute
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I have been to Madrid more times than Northampton.
standupforcity
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Nothing to do with what Otis is saying here in 'let's just suppose' OP.....your point is for a different thread!
chiefdave
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Don't really know any great detail about it but I think they essentially pay zero rent and then split the maintenance costs and revenues. If you're not paying rent to anyone they aren't going to be spending money maintaining the stadium! The revenue as profit thing sounds similar to the cross invoicing ACL proposed. The difference being in ACLs proposal they would have still got the money not us.
Samo....What I 'm saying is I think that 18-20k fans would be at least the norm with good owners in charge that think of the team rather than their "Investors" and "Back pocketing every penny that is generated by the team. These crowds were the norm before SISU arrived, and IMHO will be the norm when they have F**ked off mate
Not sure there will be any new owners if the best we can do is make vague promises about attendances if they remain "good". Not much of a business plan is it?
Any new owners will have to do what SISU did and promise jam tomorrow - remember Ranson " We are not here to hang about in the Championship" he was right about that!
SkyBlue_Bear83
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They have a council which wants to work with the club rather than against them like ours. I was actually browsing the Swansea forums the other week when the Swansea - Ospreys ground share was bought up and there fans are not happy they will be paying to develop a stadium which they don't own, also I think someone said the other day Swansea make 6 million a year out of there stadium where as we make virtually nothing.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Samo....What I 'm saying is I think that 18-20k fans would be at least the norm with good owners in charge that think of the team rather than their "Investors" and "Back pocketing every penny that is generated by the team. These crowds were the norm before SISU arrived, and IMHO will be the norm when they have F**ked off mate
Which was partly a boost from the Ricoh opening, we were averaging 14-16k in our final seasons at highfield road.
Samo
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Samo....What I 'm saying is I think that 18-20k fans would be at least the norm with good owners in charge that think of the team rather than their "Investors" and "Back pocketing every penny that is generated by the team. These crowds were the norm before SISU arrived, and IMHO will be the norm when they have F**ked off mate
In this division? With this manager? With this appalling football? Just because SISU have gone?
Astute
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Said they made over 5m when they didn't. And yes they pay in over 1m a year.
CCC were happy working with our club until the endless fruitless litigation started. Remember the road map?
Nick
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How could anybody forget, did the wife get you an atlas for Christmas as you go on about it enough.
Was the road map anything like the higgs formula?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Yes they were very happy working with us taking 1.2 million in rent and us paying match costs and not getting a penny in return. ACL and CCC had been crippling the club with the Ricoh rent and agreement years before the litigation started,whoever posted it definitely said 6 million. If we had such a deal at the Ricoh I don't think we would have left for Northampton.