Billy Daniels to Notts County (14 Viewers)

ajsccfc

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Interesting to see if he came in as a forward for them. He was always billed as a striker but I don't remember ever seeing him used as such with us. I did see Jermaine Grandison up top that time though mind you.
 

CCFC_Charlie

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Good to know that one goal for Daniels instantly makes letting go of him a mistake despite consistently not looking good enough while here.
 
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You have to say something is wrong here with the number of players who leave, particularly youngsters, having been written off as not up to standard and immediately start playing better and doing well for teams higher up the FL than us.

A person I know involved in the Youth set-up told me that Daniels felt he was being pressurised during his spells in the first team and was feeling 'burnt out'. He (person connected with the Youth team) actually blamed SISU more than SP.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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A person I know involved in the Youth set-up told me that Daniels felt he was being pressurised during his spells in the first team and was feeling 'burnt out'. He (person connected with the Youth team) actually blamed SISU more than SP.

He barely played (about 20-25 apps last season and hardly any this season) and has just moved clubs in search for first team football, seems a bit odd.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Ridiculous to let him go. Absolutely ridiculous. IF sp rated him and let him go to notts co for first team football it's another terrible decision by him and the club
 

stupot07

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Now Pressley says he didn't want him to go......

.....he's not put daniels anywhere near the first team this season bar 1 JPT game.


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Nonleagueherewecome

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Now Pressley says he didn't want him to go......

.....he's not put daniels anywhere near the first team this season bar 1 JPT game.


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When he sees how the players chosen ahead of him have fared, can you blame him for wanting first team football? He's certainly been leapfrogged by Finch with little justification (other than Finch being defensively minded!) and Barton brought back from the bomb squad over him. To all intents and purposes, it looked like Daniels was being frozen out. Odd way to treat a player who you "didn't want to lose"!
 

Nick

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When he sees how the players chosen ahead of him have fared, can you blame him? He's certainly been leapfrogged by Finch with little justification (other than Finch being defensively minded!) and Barton brought back from the bomb squad over him. To all intents and purposes, it looked like Daniels was being frozen out. Odd way to treat a player who you "didn't want to lose"!

Same as the best finisher he has ever seen, who can't get a look in either.

With Daniels, it isn't like with Baker where people can say it is all about wages either can they?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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No, Daniels must have been on peanuts.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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When he sees how the players chosen ahead of him have fared, can you blame him for wanting first team football? He's certainly been leapfrogged by Finch with little justification (other than Finch being defensively minded!) and Barton brought back from the bomb squad over him. To all intents and purposes, it looked like Daniels was being frozen out. Odd way to treat a player who you "didn't want to lose"!

I don't particularly rate Daniels but it is because he is an idiot.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Wants to keep Daniels - Never plays him

Wants or has wanted to get rid of Tudgay, Miller, Barton, Jackson at some point this season - plays them


Steven Pressley logic
 

Nick

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Wants to keep Daniels - Never plays him

Wants or has wanted to get rid of Tudgay, Miller, Barton, Jackson at some point this season - plays them


Steven Pressley logic

Sounds more like desperation to me to deflect blame.
 

CCFC_Charlie

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But nobody looks good here at the moment, what is your point?

Well I'm not talking about now seeing as he's not played for months. Bar the few goals he scored at the start of the last season, which hardly anyone on here even saw considering two of them were scored at Sixfields, he's never looked good enough. Are people forgetting when he couldn't get a look in in League Two on loan last season or does only this move count as him being a success? Typical Cov fans making rash judgements after 1 game. If the show was on the other foot and we'd signed Daniels from Notts County with an identical record and he's scored on his debut you lot would all be telling us not to get ahead of ourselves as it's only one game.
 

Joy Division

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Well I'm not talking about now seeing as he's not played for months. Bar the few goals he scored at the start of the last season, which hardly anyone on here even saw considering two of them were scored at Sixfields, he's never looked good enough. Are people forgetting when he couldn't get a look in in League Two on loan last season or does only this move count as him being a success? Typical Cov fans making rash judgements after 1 game. If the show was on the other foot and we'd signed Daniels from Notts County with an identical record and he's scored on his debut you lot would all be telling us not to get ahead of ourselves as it's only one game.

I think mst people saw his goals as we have tv's/internets

Who has looked good enough?

Barton couldnt get a look in at Fleetwood, yet he doesnt look anything special

If we signed someone from another team with an identical record and he scored for us I'd be pretty fucking happy
 

wingy

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A person I know involved in the Youth set-up told me that Daniels felt he was being pressurised during his spells in the first team and was feeling 'burnt out'. He (person connected with the Youth team) actually blamed SISU more than SP.
Yep I've heard similar with Willis through a workmates family connection
 

CCFC_Charlie

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I think mst people saw his goals as we have tv's/internets

Who has looked good enough?

Barton couldnt get a look in at Fleetwood, yet he doesnt look anything special

If we signed someone from another team with an identical record and he scored for us I'd be pretty fucking happy

It's not about just seeing the goals on the internet. It's about watching the game and seeing how he played, and part of that is exactly the point I'm making. People are judging Daniels off of a few goals they saw him score on YouTube last season as opposed to his actually performances in better sides where he looked out of his depth, and even this season when he played an looked dreadful. Yeah, you can say that no-one has looked good this season but bar the very start of last season Daniels hasn't never looked like anything amazing. I don't understand your point about Barton either? What exactly is that supposed to mean? At the end of the day he's scored one goal and some people on here are acting like we've let our best player go. Nope. We let go of an average player who never really looked up to standard in this league. He might have success at Notts County, he might not, but let's wait until he played more than 15 minutes of football before we started acting like we made a massive mistake letting him go.
 

valeskyblue

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Wants to keep Daniels - Never plays him


Wants or has wanted to get rid of Tudgay, Miller, Barton, Jackson at some point this season - plays them


Same with Jordan Clarke, ironically the ones he didn't back go on to be a goal machines at mk dons an Gillingham
 

Astute

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It's not about just seeing the goals on the internet. It's about watching the game and seeing how he played, and part of that is exactly the point I'm making. People are judging Daniels off of a few goals they saw him score on YouTube last season as opposed to his actually performances in better sides where he looked out of his depth, and even this season when he played an looked dreadful. Yeah, you can say that no-one has looked good this season but bar the very start of last season Daniels hasn't never looked like anything amazing. I don't understand your point about Barton either? What exactly is that supposed to mean? At the end of the day he's scored one goal and some people on here are acting like we've let our best player go. Nope. We let go of an average player who never really looked up to standard in this league. He might have success at Notts County, he might not, but let's wait until he played more than 15 minutes of football before we started acting like we made a massive mistake letting him go.

All of our players look shit playing for SP. Is every player shit or is it something to do with SP?
 

stupot07

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Assist by Blair Adams....


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Nonleagueherewecome

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Doh. "Lets take a look at what you could have won..."

Can you imagine Finch or Thomas ever scoring a goal like that? Or indeed Barton or Fleck as they're never that advanced up the pitch...plus, Fleck would have trapped that and passed it to someone else!
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Adams and Daniels in the side and we'd be top of the league.

I don't think that anyone is saying that, more that players under-perform with us and we do let players go that we should have kept.
 

stupot07

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Just like the one Conor Thomas could have scored on Monday night

Yep, the difference between a striker/attacking midfielder and a defensive midfielder getting on the end of a chance like that.


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SkyBlue_Bear83

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That sorta rubbish would never happen in a Steven Pressley team.

I'm guessing he probably played striker when he came on, like I said before I didn't really rate him but Pressley the idiot tried to convert him into a defensive midfielder.
 

LJC_CCFC

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That sorta rubbish would never happen in a Steven Pressley team.

I'm guessing he probably played striker when he came on, like I said before I didn't really rate him but Pressley the idiot tried to convert him into a defensive midfielder.

I believe all that started with Thorn, who used him as the defensive midfielder in the diamond system.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Sweeping generalisation that could be applied to many clubs.

No they bloody aren't! We're talking specifcally about Daniels and Adams. Daniels should have been given an opportunity as an attacking midfielder rather than frozen out for, generally speaking, more defensive options; Adams should have been kept because he was the clubs best LB, but we let him go rather than pay the fee that was required after 50 appearances-and presumably because Pressley wanted Pugh rather than him.

As for players underperforming here, do you not agree? Didn't you say that Jackson was better than Wilson? What's the manager doing to bring him down to L2 standard, then?
 

stupot07

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No they bloody aren't! We're talking specifcally about Daniels and Adams. Daniels should have been given an opportunity as an attacking midfielder rather than frozen out for, generally speaking, more defensive options; Adams should have been kept because he was the clubs best LB, but we let him go rather than pay the fee that was required after 50 appearances-and presumably because Pressley wanted Pugh rather than him.

As for players underperforming here, do you not agree? Didn't you say that Jackson was better than Wilson? What's the manager doing to bring him down to L2 standard, then?

Jackson will score for fun for us in League 2 next season. ;)


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Nonleagueherewecome

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Jackson will score for fun for us in League 2 next season. ;)


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Only he's on a one year deal and we probably won't be able to afford his wages, especially given that we supposedly pushed the boat out to sign him (whoops!). Still, he'll probably go to someone like Gillingham and bang in 20 goals next season...it's the Coventry Way, don't you know.
 

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