No this isn't a joke (21 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

So he said we can sell merchandise in a mobile unit outside the ground for zero charge?

What about inside the stadium? Can we do that as well? If so where?

If we paid for the parking spaces why would they object? We wouldn't even be paying full price given that we'd get our share of them spaces revenue back and here's the rub, we might even sell some merchandise. It's all about the revenue you know.

 

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[Woz01]

Will Sisu pay for retail space at the arena? The fact they haven't sorted a standard kiosk to sell stuff on match days and look slightly professional suggests to me the answer would be no.

 

[ccfcway]

http://docs.novaloca.com/34425_633834595128488762.pdf

This space would cost c£70k pa rent.

Thats a lot of mugs and screen wash to just break even

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

If we paid for the parking spaces why would they object? We wouldn't even be paying full price given that we'd get our share of them spaces revenue back and here's the rub, we might even sell some merchandise. It's all about the revenue you know.

You can't just rock up in a retail van and sell merchandise, we'd almost certainly be charged through the roof.

 

[skybluetony176]

You can't just rock up in a retail van and sell merchandise, we'd almost certainly be charged through the roof.

And we/you know this how? Have the club asked our landlord? Have you?

 

[ccfcway]

You can't just rock up in a retail van and sell merchandise, we'd almost certainly be charged through the roof.

there isnt a roof, it was an april fool

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Here is what the club had to say in response, so they have asked and they didn't get.

 

[duffer]

But surely all we've got to do is ask, and Wasps will give us whatever we want.

Anyone want to tell me again that Wasps will do us a great deal on the rent, or even better give us a cut of the ACL 24/7/365 revenue?

 

[skybluetony176]

Here is what the club had to say in response, so they have asked and they didn't get.

Asked for what exactly? Clearly a food kiosk is the only thing that has been ruled out so what have they asked for? Space in our old club shop? One of the old dingy office's back? Have they even suggested a mobile shop out front. At the Gillingham game didn't Sky/BT (don't recall who was filming on the day) have a whole fans interactive station set up from mobile units (more than one) outside the ground? Not even in the car park IIRC but on the block paving right outside the ground. You could almost go as far as to say that this area was designed for mobile merchandising. In fact now I think about it I've also seen this area being used for mobile retail units when I've been to see bands play at the Ricoh.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

And we/you know this how? Have the club asked our landlord? Have you?

They have apparently (not sure specifically about a retail van but they've made inquires about getting a better match day shop set up)

Why don't we direct our questions at the entity who have the power and control at the Ricoh rather than attacking the club?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Asked for what exactly? Clearly a food kiosk is the only thing that has been ruled out so what have they asked for? Space in our old club shop? One of the old dingy office's back? Have they even suggested a mobile shop out front. At the Gillingham game didn't Sky/BT (don't recall who was filming on the day) have a whole fans interactive station set up from mobile units (more than one) outside the ground? Not even in the car park IIRC but on the block paving right outside the ground. You could almost go as far as to say that this area was designed for mobile merchandising. In fact now I think about it I've also seen this area being used for mobile retail units when I've been to see bands play at the Ricoh.

We don't know what they've asked for, we just know they have asked.

 

[Nick]

Get an foi sorted

 

[Otis]

Here is what the club had to say in response, so they have asked and they didn't get.

As has already been stated, it's surely bleedin obvious they cannot use the catering kiosks.

That Twitter feed only gives partial answers. We need the full lowdown.

 

[skybluetony176]

We don't know what they've asked for, we just know they have asked.

In which case we know nothing. For all we know they could have asked Wasps if they fancy swapping their shiny new club shop for our car boot pasting tables in the foyer. That would be asking something wouldn't it. It's not a question worth asking but it would still be asking.

 

[Nick]

Reads like they have asked for a more permanent solution to me.

 

[ccfcway]

Sounds like a job for Sandra Garlick !

 

[skybluetony176]

Reads like they have asked for a more permanent solution to me.

That could just mean non foldable tables that they leave in situ.

 

[ccfcway]

use one of the many of the empty betting kiosks

 

[Otis]

Sounds like a job for Sandra Garlick !

She'd definitely be allowed into the food kiosks.

 

[rupert_bear]

Surely we're not blaming Wasps for the state of our souvenier shop, it has been a joke of a shop for years and it wasn't Wasps who left the stadium for a year virtually rendering the shop unusable are people forgetting that. As for the excuse of a retail outlet at Gallagher Retail park it is a joke and the quality and quantity of what they are selling is embarrassing to be honest.

 

[ccfcway]

Surely we're not blaming Wasps for the state of our souvenier shop, it has been a joke of a shop for years and it wasn't Wasps who left the stadium for a year are people forgetting that. As for the excuse of a retail outlet at Gallagher Retail park it is a joke and the quality and quantity of what they are selling is an embarrassing to be honest.

We arent, from what i can see, only one person is

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

In which case we know nothing. For all we know they could have asked Wasps if they fancy swapping their shiny new club shop for our car boot pasting tables in the foyer. That would be asking something wouldn't it. It's not a question worth asking but it would still be asking.

They asked for a more 'permanent space' and they didn't get, if that is how you wish to interpret then that is up to you.

 

[Grendel]

They asked for a more 'permanent space' and they didn't get, if that is how you wish to interpret then that is up to you.

As long as its one in the eye for sisu that's good enough for Tony.

 

[Hobo]

You can't just rock up in a retail van and sell merchandise, we'd almost certainly be charged through the roof.

No, but they don't own the whole city. It depends where you set up. In the Euro Championship a lot of sellers who had licences for Wembley Way set up on pub car parks around Villa Park. One seller told me he paid 1000.00 pound per game at Wembley paid 500.00 for the whole tournament around Villa Park. He said he had made his money after the first game.

SISU just don't have any business imagination.

 

[chiefdave]

500.00 for the whole tournament around Villa Park

Not sure we'd sell much of our merchandise in the car park at Villa

 

[duffer]

We arent, from what i can see, only one person is

I'm not blaming Wasps for how crap the merchandising situation is, I'm just pointing out that those saying that we've just got to ask Wasps for stuff and we'll get it are talking rubbish.

If they can't even give us a bit of merchandising space, then how likely is it that they'll share their (far more important) revenue streams?

 

[Hobo]

I'm not blaming Wasps for how crap the merchandising situation is, I'm just pointing out that those saying that we've just got to ask Wasps for stuff and we'll get it are talking rubbish.

If they can't even give us a bit of merchandising space, then how likely is it that they'll share their (far more important) revenue streams?

But why is it SISU always have problems setting up working relationships? TF reassured us how good they were at working with people when Wasps moved in.

Wasps are hardly that stricked if SISU can just set up a crappy table selling merchandise inside the ground?

 

[skybluetony176]

As long as its one in the eye for sisu that's good enough for Tony.

You quite literally haven't been reading my post if you think that's what its about.

 

[duffer]

No, but they don't own the whole city. It depends where you set up. In the Euro Championship a lot of sellers who had licences for Wembley Way set up on pub car parks around Villa Park. One seller told me he paid 1000.00 pound per game at Wembley paid 500.00 for the whole tournament around Villa Park. He said he had made his money after the first game.

SISU just don't have any business imagination.

I can't think of anywhere that isn't either private land belonging to ACL or the shopping centre that would work for what you're talking about here. Unlike Wembley, there isn't a single route into the ground that all fans feed into. They could presumably put a temporary unit on ACL's car park - in effect a large van but it would need Wasps permission I'd guess.

Regardless, the club have asked for something permanent, and that doesn't seem to be forthcoming from Wasps.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm not blaming Wasps for how crap the merchandising situation is, I'm just pointing out that those saying that we've just got to ask Wasps for stuff and we'll get it are talking rubbish.

If they can't even give us a bit of merchandising space, then how likely is it that they'll share their (far more important) revenue streams?

But no one knows what we've specifically asked them for. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[Hobo]

I can't think of anywhere that isn't either private land belonging to ACL or the shopping centre that would work for what you're talking about here. Unlike Wembley, there isn't a single route into the ground that all fans feed into. They could presumably put a temporary unit on ACL's car park - in effect a large van but it would need Wasps permission I'd guess.

Regardless, the club have asked for something permanent, and that doesn't seem to be forthcoming from Wasps.

This Wasps monopoly of extortionate permits? So how was that table set up? Because that table is so bad it would be more profitable to be without it!

I have seen fans displaying more merchandise.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not even any of the CCFC lemon curd

 

[Tonylinc]

Perhaps if the "official", store at the Retail park was more professional people would take the owners more seriously.

 

[Tonylinc]

Currently they are a joke and as a direct result we are too.

 

[skybluedan]

It is the CCFC merchandising operation at last nights match

Nice to see they have some stock ,looks better than the last time I went..........