Tony Mowbray Mulling over a move for Ben Turner (I feel a '?' Should follow) (9 Viewers)

sw88

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So the CET have ran an article with this headline. But at no point has TM mentioned names, hence me thinking there should be a '?' After the headline. I didn't even realise he's fallen out of favour, but would love it if we managed to get him back!!:

By Andy Turner | 03/11/15

Tony Mowbray admits Coventry City’s attempts to draft in experienced defensive cover is fraught with obstacles.

The Sky Blues boss is looking for a more seasoned campaigner rather than raw top flight specimen to pick up where Reda Johnson left off before he was ruled out for the season with thigh injury.

The Telegraph understands that former Academy graduate Ben Turner has been considered but the powerful Cardiff City centre-half is not quite back up to speed in terms of fitness after a long lay-off following an ankle reconstruction.

A player of that ilk certainly appears to tick the man mountain box Mowbray is looking for but the manager says it’s proving a difficult task.

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“We have had four or five conversations with different clubs but the stumbling blocks are that some are players who the clubs might be looking to move on in January,” said the City boss, who has tasked technical director Mark Venus with coming up with suitable candidates.

“I have left it with Mark to make some calls for me over the weekend and I’ll get an update today on where those are.

“There is an issue because generally Premier League or Championship clubs want to give loan experience to young players who need game time.

"The other potential targets are experienced players who can’t get near the 18-man matchday squad and are probably earning decent money.

"But the problem with them is that if they have played any football for their club and then go out on a short-term spell to a club like us, come January when they are looking to move them off the wage bill then they’d be going to a third club, and you can’t play for three teams in a season.

“So there are a few hiccups and obstacles in the way to try to overcome to try to find the right people to come in to give us the defensive cover.”

He added: “The other options are young players but they have other issues. I’ve no problem bringing in young players in attacking areas to run away to score and create goals but defensively it’s a little bit different.

“I’ve always felt that you need a bit of experience, particularly down the middle of your team; you need some guy who can get their head on it and defend.

“Generally the experienced players cost a bit more than the young ones they’re happy to send out and subsidise because they want them to get experience.”

Mowbray revealed that there is a bit of money available to bring in cover, albeit unlikely to be in time for tonight’s home clash with Barnsley, but remains hopeful that, while not telling people to go to games, increased crowds at the Ricoh will provide funds for a rainy day later in the season.

“We have got some saved at the minute, and that’s why Mark is very good at managing the football budget,” he said.

“He’s telling me at the moment that we have got money to get someone. My concern is moving forward.

"Injuries are part and parcel of football and if the squad got so stretched I wouldn’t want to put untried young footballers into a team that’s doing well. I’d rather go and get some experience to keep it ticking along.

'Budget is pretty average for this league'

“But, generally, experienced footballers cost money. Clubs aren’t charities and if a player earns X it’s very difficult to go to those clubs and say can we take him for X divided by ten of his salary.

“It’s a fine balance because sometimes you want to go and make a decent offer for a player to come in and help keep things going.”

He added: “Because we don’t own the stadium we haven’t got revenue streams that most clubs who have a stadium have where they can sell pies and cups of tea and the odd beer. So the funding from the matchday is from people buying their ticket to come to watch the game.

“And that’s why it’s a fine balance for me if, somewhere along the line, we can be successful that people do come and watch.

"Without going into the intricacies, the budget is pretty average for this league, maybe in the top ten. With what we have done so far money is quite tight and it’s just a case of keeping that revenue stream coming.

“It’s little fine details of another X amount on the gate might allow us to bring another footballer in for a month. What would be sad, in my eyes, would be to fall away because we haven’t got an extra few quid to bring someone in for a month.”
 

lifeskyblue

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If turner is fit and willing to come back I think it would be good for the club. Having an old boy who played at premier league level again sends out a message to the fans and the rest of league 1. However I am concerned he may not be fully fit for a few weeks yet. I really think we need someone in the near future


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mechaishida

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I'd love to see Big Ben back in Sky Blue, I was gutted when we sold him for pittance.

Very good cautionary affix of a '?' where the CET is concerned though, 'cos those chaps would print TM's daily bog schedule to fill pages.
 

wingy

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Whichever way you cut It someone on the offensive side Is going to have to go back to their club.
If we had the old budget of £2-5m we'd be OK but we're half a mill down on that this year.
We have 9 forward minded players when Maddison comes back and George Thomas to come back If needed.
We really need two at the back and you can't play six loans.
When Reda got Injured he said he wanted to sign someone permanent but It sounds like the budget Isn't here.
 

Captain Dart

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I'd love to see Big Ben back in Sky Blue, I was gutted when we sold him for pittance.

Very good cautionary affix of a '?' where the CET is concerned though, 'cos those chaps would print TM's daily bog schedule to fill pages.

Posters could then say he is slow (which he never was BTW).
 

Sbarcher

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Although I have never had a pint inside the stadium, surprised TM thinks they sell "odd beer".
 

pusbccfc

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Turner is a great replacement for Reda.
 

stupot07

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SkyBlueZack

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When we signed cole we were told there was money left in the budget to sign eagles if we wanted to. Eagles didn't sign. Where has that money gone? Is there not an argument that with ricketts in the middle the need for experience is less? If Willis was fit he would be in the team at rb or cb. Is he considered experienced?
 

stupot07

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When we signed cole we were told there was money left in the budget to sign eagles if we wanted to. Eagles didn't sign. Where has that money gone? Is there not an argument that with ricketts in the middle the need for experience is less? If Willis was fit he would be in the team at rb or cb. Is he considered experienced?

There is still money there, as a free agent eagles would have excepted a lower league one wage, what Mowbray is saying is those that he is looking for are still already on decent wages, but their clubs will be looking to move them on in January, and as a player can't play for 3 clubs in a season we're are struggle to bring them in on loan as we can't afford to sign them permanently in January.

No, I don't think Willis would be viewed as experienced.


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Nick

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The headline doesn't match the content and what he has actually said. Load of shite!
 

torchomatic

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It's in the CT. Hardly a shock. Their stories and headlines very rarely match.

The headline doesn't match the content and what he has actually said. Load of shite!
 

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rupert_bear

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I know Tony Mowbray is looking for a like for like replacement for Reda Johnson but it is looking a big ask when the finances come into it. Recently we had a player on a month loan/trial from Middlesbrough i think, name Jackson ? who went back with quiet an endorsement from TM. I think he is 21 and stands about 6'4" and i seem to remember TM saying he will be looking again at him for next season, why not get him in, could be cheaper i assume and yes there is this element of risk ability wise, but then there is always risk with new players. Experience can be an issue but should one of the present back 4 get an injury, heaven forbid, inexperienced players such as Harres or Haynes will probably have to fill in. It is a bit of a juggling trick admittedly and times have changed but i remember the likes of Ben Turner, Bobby Parker, Callum Davenport, Gary Gillespie there are others all coming into the first team at young ages and stayed there. Gillespie was only about 18 and never missed a game for 5 years at top level, yet sods law got a dream move to Liverpool and was always injured.
 
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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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Was he actually good? I can't remember him ever standing out

He was excellent in his last season with us, though he only played 10-15 games before he got injured against Leeds. Popped up with a few goals as well if I remember correctly. He was pretty ordinary in the preceding seasons but should remember that he was the same age as Willis/Phillips are now, if not younger, at the time.
 

rupert_bear

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As for Ben Turner i have always rated him and was pathetically under valued when sold to Cardiff, trouble is though he is a regular on the treatment table, still on it i think.
 

fernandopartridge

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I know Tony Mowbray is looking for a like for like replacement for Reda Johnson but it is looking a big ask when the finances come into it. Recently we had a player on a month loan/trial from Middlesbrough i think, name Jackson ? who went back with quiet an endorsement from TM. I think he is 21 and stands about 6'4" and i seem to remember TM saying he will be looking again at him for next season, why not get him in, could be cheaper i assume and yes there is this element of risk ability wise, but then there is always risk with new players. Experience can be an issue but should one of the present back 4 get an injury, heaven forbid, inexperienced players such as Harres or Haynes will probably have to fill in. It is a bit of a juggling trick admittedly and times have changed but i remember the likes of Ben Turner, Bobby Parker, Callum Davenport, Gary Gillespie there are others all coming into the first team at young ages and stayed there. Gillespie was only about 18 and never missed a game for 5 years at top level, yet sods law got a dream move to Liverpool and was always injured.
If you read Mowbray's comments he wants an experienced player.
 

stupot07

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If he rated Jackson as good enough to play now, surely he would have made the matchday squad when he was here


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rob9872

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He was excellent in his last season with us, though he only played 10-15 games before he got injured against Leeds. Popped up with a few goals as well if I remember correctly. He was pretty ordinary in the preceding seasons but should remember that he was the same age as Willis/Phillips are now, if not younger, at the time.

Further ruined by staying on the pitch when everyone in the ground apart from the manager thought it obvious for him to come off.
 

ccfcway

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As for Ben Turner i have always rated him and was pathetically under valued when sold to Cardiff, trouble is though he is a regular on the treatment table, still on it i think.

Reda has played more games than Turner in the last 18 months
 

no_loyalty

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Turner would be a risky signing due to his injury problems, I'd much rather see Pennington back here on loan
 

Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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Further ruined by staying on the pitch when everyone in the ground apart from the manager thought it obvious for him to come off.

Yes I do remember that now you mention it - similar to my anecdote about Magnus Hedman stayed on the pitch when injured at home to Boro. Who was the gaffer, was it Boothroyd?
 

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