Steps removed. SISU and CCFC. (1 Viewer)
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Nick
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It came from the person who was in charge of it personally years ago rather than some spun up tat you get now
Decent bloke as well. I'd say it's more reliable than a guess from somebody who didn't even use it though, wouldn't you?
Sky Blue Kid
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It came from the person who was in charge of it personally years ago rather than some spun up tat you get now
I'd say it's more reliable than a guess from somebody who didn't even use it though, wouldn't you?
I didn't have to use the site to see what was going on, and good friends of mine that used the site said it was ruled by a hardcore 6-7 posters who seemed at the end to be the only users.
Nick
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Well yes, you do really need to use the site to see what's going on.
All you are doing is making a guess while showing you don't really know.
chiefdave
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What are you rabbiting on about? Follow through what happened. Nobody, as far as I'm aware, is disputing that talks were taking place and Wasps walked away saying they would not engage in further talks with the club.
So then there was an attempt to get everyone around the table with someone neutral to oversee things and stop the silly games being played. Wasps denied this had happened.
But then the MP insisted Wasps had been contacted.
Eastwood was forced to admit his 'mistake' but still wouldn't agree to the talks.
The quote from your article you linked is that they will not attend talks as requested.
If they are on the level why on earth would they say no to speaking to the club with someone independent there. If anything you'd say that was to their advantage as when Fisher comes out with a load of BS after the talks there's someone independent who can verify what was discussed.
Walking away from talks and then turning down an invitation of further talks is hardly the actions of someone who is serious about doing a deal. Its almost like its all a PR exercise to distract the masses who lap it up as getting one over on SISU.
chiefdave
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And what were those conditions? If you check I'll think you'll find what you're referring to as conditions were all projects in line with Higgs stated objectives at the time. Must just be a coincidence that right after the bid Higgs completely changed their objectives.
What in those conditions do you think is something our football club and Higgs wouldn't benefit from being involved in?
And of course if that was the only issue Higgs had with he bid then why not just say to CCFC we will accept the bid but remove those conditions.
Its almost as if a deal had already been agreed for Wasps to get 100%.
Still you seem to have achieved your objective. You've managed to move the conversation from looking at Wasps are up to now to going back over things that happened years ago for the thousandth time.
Sky Blue Kid
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I think we all know what the "Conditions" were for.... Anything to help SISU with the JR. Or do you think something else?
Sky Blue Kid
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Why do I? easy enough to come to the conclusion that "Hardcore posters" ruled the roost and all others that made posts, were being bullied into their way of thinking.
Don't need to actually join the site to see this happening.
Nick
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Amazing you can analyse it all so much off a quick look and then know exact reasons why it closed isn't it?
Is me correcting you "bullying into my way of thinking" because you have guessed at something?
chiefdave
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Sky Blue Kid
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[QUOTE="Nick, post: 1393925, member: 1"]Amazing you can analyse it all so much off a quick look and then know exact reasons why it closed isn't it?
Is me correcting you "bullying into my way of thinking" because you have guessed at something?[/QUOTE]
See what I mean? Who said I took "A quick look"? I followed the site for quite a few months(About 6 or 7 months) That was more than enough to see what was going on. Is my, and all my friends opinions not as good as yours then? After all, you know why my friends all stopped using the the site... Or is it you guessing why they stopped using it?
Is me correcting you "bullying into my way of thinking" because you have guessed at something?[/QUOTE]
See what I mean? Who said I took "A quick look"? I followed the site for quite a few months(About 6 or 7 months) That was more than enough to see what was going on. Is my, and all my friends opinions not as good as yours then? After all, you know why my friends all stopped using the the site... Or is it you guessing why they stopped using it?
Nick
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Oh look, here you are moving the goalposts.
Your original comment wasn't why sky blue kids friends stopped using a website, it was why it "died".
Have a look at ajs post
Sky Blue Kid
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Is this the "SISU Mantra"??? they tried to persuade all of Coventry(Some 350k people or there abouts) to believe?
Sky Blue Kid
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OK.. You tell us all on this forum why the original CT site closed down then.
Nick
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The one on iccoventry? Again, look at ajs post.
Sky Blue Kid
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The site that people like Torchy was originally a member of.
Sky Blue Kid
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Have to go out now. Looking forward to carrying on this conversation when I return
Nick
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Have to go out now. Looking forward to carrying on this conversation when I return
AJ has told you why with the basics.
Dutchman, Moff and a couple of others will too. It was a resourcing issue, the staff looked after that and other sections as well as their job. Multiple forums like it closed on the network the same under Trinity Mirror. It wasn't specific to the CET.
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ajsccfc
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I don't know what iccoventry is, but the one I'm talking about was hosted on the Telegraph page itself. The admin or top dog mod said it was being dropped because it wasn't worth the hassle. Can't remember too much about the troll, but he was called Nigel something and one of the many usernames was seeyagunnarsson. He was a known entity and made looking after the forum a pointless endeavour.
It wasn't due to the actual Cov fans on there, there were fallings out but no more than you get here.
It wasn't due to the actual Cov fans on there, there were fallings out but no more than you get here.
Nick
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Yeah it's the same one...Smithers is the fella who ran it.
ajsccfc
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That's the fella, he'd message me a few times about it. I think they may have even taken legal proceedings against the guy or were looking into it.
Bit more on this thread - Old CET forum
Bit more on this thread - Old CET forum
torchomatic
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Didn't he support Everton or some team like that? Always seem like a nice bloke.
torchomatic
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Yeah I used to be on that. Can't remember my username though. Famed for Vicky and Adrian.
oldskyblue58
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Actually the conditions on the offer and the charitable partnerships were referred to separately by AEHC in their statement. I read that to say that there were conditions attached that were not made public and the Pillar of Partnership were not conditions at all only things that could happen offered as some kind of enticement.
The sale by the Trustees of their shares in ACL | Higgs Charity
Interested as to what you think the Charity objectives were before and after the offer and how they changed?
Charity Commission lists them as
"SUCH CHARITABLE PURPOSES WHICH SHALL BENEFIT WHOLLY OR MAINLY THE INHABITANTS OF THE AREA WITHIN 25 MILES OF THE CENTRE OF COVENTRY AS THE TRUSTEES MAY SELECT, WITH A PREFERENCE AS FAR AS PRACTICABLE TO THE PROMOTION OF CHILD WELFARE AND PARTICULARLY THE WELFARE OF UNDER PRIVILEGED CHILDREN"
Surely all the Pillars of partnership were, are things that are best done through SBITC who already do great work and AEHC not needed for that. Such a partnership would mean investment of funds by the Charity, who had already made other plans, after all that went on would/could they trust a SISU controlled entity with their money?. The Pillars of Partnership look like good for public consumption but frankly added nothing for the Charity in terms of doing a deal, especially when they would be financially better off with the Wasps deal. Pointless focussing on them
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No. Show me a popular protest in any form - whether it be a march, a petition, a demonstration or a candidate at local elections who got a significant vote opposing the Wasps sale. The loan was supposed to be paid off with revenue from the CCFC rent via ACL. That all went haywire and the elected council were no longer happy to have the loan on their books as was shown by their willingness to get rid of it. SISU made a mistake from the word go - yes I know you will use a Trumpism, "from many sides" - but the fact is the mistake that is causing the current problems is that SISU bought CCFC.
The present position is that nothing can happen until JR2 is out of the way. No one is going to budge. Wriggle all you want, but the clock is ticking and we don't have a good hand.
Moff
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Spot on ajsccfc.
Smithers from the Telegraph rang me when it shut down to confirm this was the case.
chiefdave
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SISU will have you appearing as their star witness with comments like that! CCC made a £14m loan to a struggling, even if nobody would admit it at the time, ACL who were in dispute with CCFC over unpaid rent on the basis that the rent CCFC weren't paying would cover the repayments!
No wonder Mutton said at the time ' Not many councils would have done what we've done',
AVWskyblue
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Sky Blue Kid
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Basically what I said then.
Nick
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Nothing at all like you said.
Grendel
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"The loan was supposed to be paid off with revenue off CCFC" what the fuck are you on about.
On this thread you've stated the people of Coventry we're glad as the council would have been in debt. Bollocks - 90% of Coventry didn't even know the loan existed anyway. They don't care.
Sky Blue Kid
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Nothing at all like you said.
At that time I didn't know what "Trolling, Multiple accounts or anything else meant. All I know is, there was a lot of bullying going on, Non more so than from a woman called Mrs Angry. Nasty piece of work was that one.
