clint van damme
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if you think CCFC and sisu are the same why are you on a sisu message board?
Why are you bothered about them? Surely you have something better to do?
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if you think CCFC and sisu are the same why are you on a sisu message board?
Why are you bothered about them? Surely you have something better to do?
Gosford Green
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I am not worried in the slightest. 10 people (well 10 user names) on here think that the club and SISU are separate, nothing to do with each other.
The opinions of the owners of Wasps, CRFC and 99% of CCFC fans are superficial.
The opinions of the owners of Wasps, CRFC and 99% of CCFC fans are superficial.
Gosford Green
Well-Known Member
Doubtful. I think the FL asked the club questions on where they are playing in a few months time and they chucked in the BPA as an answer because they had nothing else . The league may have contacted CRFC who issued that statement saying basically fuck off it involves SISU.
The club made a statement which was just a bit of elongated spin saying we do not know either.
skybluetony176
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So if you think it's pointless given that you believe it will be thrown out it begs the question that ccfc way asked at the top of page 3.
Why are you more bothered about the "PR" and the CT than you are about the actions of our owners? Which by your own admission will be fruitless and therefore can only be damaging against the club.
You keep bleating on about unity. Don't you think that it's about time you joined the majority and put speaking out about the actions of our owners at the front of the agenda and not the back. Why give them the breathing space of talking and pointing the finger in every other direction. Why shout down everyone who puts it at the front of the agenda? Why keep pulling out the "oh, look who's back" card when someone speaks out about the owners? Why keep pulling out the "where are you on a match thread" card every time someone speaks out about the owners? Why do you keep pulling out the "you don't go to games" card every time someone speaks out about our owners? Etc etc. You seem to continually go out your way to either dilute a story about our owners, dilute an opinion of our owners or say something to discredit the poster speaking out against our owners ignoring the fact that they're typically right?
You're in danger of coming of as having a different agenda to the majority of fans. You seem to acknowledge that this latest round is not only fruitless but damaging to the club yet you're more concerned about PR and the CT while seeming to be on your own PR drive with a different objective.
You want unity. You can start by changing your own behaviour to join the majority in condemning in the strongest terms the latest action of our owners and then continuing to do so to keep it at the front of the agenda. Don't give them any hiding place or breathing space at any time. They haven't earned it from any CCFC fan or anyone from Coventry so why gift it to them?
Nick
Administrator
What from pointing out that things are going on and something is able to happen due to sudden changes and appearances from users?
My behaviour stays the same, I'll be on here for most matches, talking about football and everything that comes up.
You keep going on as if me pointing out how blatant things are gives them hiding space, but you get excited when somebody is kicking at ccfc thinking it bothers them which gives them even more hiding space. Why do you always go on about giving them breathing space?
I'm not in danger of anything, if it really bothers people that I point things out that are obvious then why's that?
My interest is ccfc, I pointed out the sudden PR drive to make out ccfc is sisu because something was going to come out and I was proven right once again.
Lots of people say things about the owners, last and bhsb as an example do day in, day out . Why do I only question some users appearances?
While you are foaming at the mouth at rumours and protests you don't realise that most of the time the fact that people are so misinformed it does more than anything else to dilute attention on sisu.
While you have people blaming sisu for somebody not answering the phone in the ticket office or outrage being worked up because a young lad gets a dream move to man Utd, it dilutes everything else.
Nick
Administrator
Clever attempt at wordplay, you come back on suddenly to push ccfc and sisu are the same thing.
Who has ever said absolutely not linked in the slightest? Nobody has.
40,000 people obviously thought they were different earlier on in the year. Not just what you try to spin.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Predictable nonsense as usual. You're a gift to SISU. Presumably free as well.
Nick
Administrator
Yeah you tried that line about being a gift last time and it didn't work then.
Do you not think that while rage is being whipped up about a young lad going to Man Utd and everything else possible it dilutes things? If not, I suggest you look up the meaning of dilute.
Why wouldn't CCFC fans be interested if an angle was suddenly being pushed just before news came out to try and cloud the difference between their football club and SISU?
Why do I say things about Match Threads and being bothered about CCFC? Because it's interesting to see how certain users come on for certain threads and that's all, some users come on for every thread / topic.
Bang on about my agenda all you like, but I can guarantee I will be supporting CCFC in the wind, rain, League 2, league 1, premier league, sisu owning us, council owning us, fans owning us, wasps owning us as much as I can. Yet people who only pop up to post on a certain thread or become interested in CCFC for well timed periods are perfectly fine according to you?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Another free gift to SISU's PR team playing the "suddenly back" card.
What do you think about the statement on the clubs website where they're trying to make out it's nothing to do with the club despite as you know Otium being listed on the court proceedings? Any comment on the "clubs" (let's face it the statement didn't really come from the club) misunderstanding of what constitutes the club and what constitutes our owners? You're always tripping over yourself to be at the front of the queue when someone gets the distinction wrong to discredit them in some way how about some consistency and do the same with the clubs misunderstanding of the situation? Unless of course you only have the one agenda.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
That's it Nick. You keep up the good work. Tim is proud of you I'm sure.
Nick
Administrator
It's quite funny really, especially as you cry like a little bitch all of the time about people trying to play the man not the ball.
Nick
Administrator
Yes, I will mention when people come back suddenly and their post content and aim. Especially as I keep being proven right over and over again.
You mean the one that says the club aren't liable for any costs, will continue with it's day to day running and trying to have a good relationship with ACL / Wasps? It makes sense doesn't it, when Robins and Oggy turn up at the court room you may have a point.
When the club put out statements that are wrong I correct them, it's like the last time when I said the Joy one was a load of bullshit and you tried to argue with that as well.
Do try to keep up with consistency yourself if you have an issue with it.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
"Little bitch"? Nice thought out retort. At least I'm my own bitch and not someone else's.
Any comment on the club confusing the owners with the club? I know it's a bug bare of yours. I'm surprised you're not all over it already.
Colin Steins Smile
Well-Known Member
I concur the following things from this latest decision:
1. The granting of an appeal has been made by the judge on the belief that there is evidence for this matter to be revisited. It's unusual for a judge to take an opposing view to a previous ruling without new evidence.
2. The timeline for legal processes to be completed is now over a year away.
3. This will be a distraction to the club, even if only limited.
4. Whilst legal processes are being pursued, the club will not be sold, as Otium are a plaintive.
5. It will adversely affect the prospects of reaching a deal to remain at the Ricoh next season or find another landlord. Anyone approached to host the club will be concerned about being embroiled in a different legal matter, as our owners consistently use an adversarial approach to business.
6. This will adversely affect the club in trying to maintain the academy, for reason in number 5.
Finally, it's depressing that legal matters have resurfaced.
1. The granting of an appeal has been made by the judge on the belief that there is evidence for this matter to be revisited. It's unusual for a judge to take an opposing view to a previous ruling without new evidence.
2. The timeline for legal processes to be completed is now over a year away.
3. This will be a distraction to the club, even if only limited.
4. Whilst legal processes are being pursued, the club will not be sold, as Otium are a plaintive.
5. It will adversely affect the prospects of reaching a deal to remain at the Ricoh next season or find another landlord. Anyone approached to host the club will be concerned about being embroiled in a different legal matter, as our owners consistently use an adversarial approach to business.
6. This will adversely affect the club in trying to maintain the academy, for reason in number 5.
Finally, it's depressing that legal matters have resurfaced.
Nick
Administrator
Yes, because you are small and a bitch. You whinge about something and then do it constantly yourself.
Obviously the little twat in the playground giving it loads to people and getting a smack back and crying to the teacher.
If you want to whinge about people trying to play the man not the ball, don't try and fly in at knee height constantly and crying when you get some back.
You go on about "thought out retorts" when you just go on about Tim being proud.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
No. I mean the one that says that the owners of the club have been granted right to appeal. It's the opening line of the statement. I'm surprised you missed it. Otium have also been granted right to appeal. You are aware of that aren't you? Otium is the operating arm of the club. You are aware of that aren't you? Therefore trying to make out otherwise that the club isn't involved is incorrect isn't it?
Then you just talk a load of nonsense about Oggy being in court. Maybe you're lining up Oggy for the blame of the case failing. Who knows? It's bollocks that is for sure and is pointless distraction and dilution. I say pointless maybe distraction and dilution was the point.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
You're funny. And not in a good way.
Nick
Administrator
So how does that say that CCFC are SISU like I reply to people about?
I am not too sure how any of that has found the smoking gun that CCFC are SISU like people keep saying has it?
They have said the club and it's staff will be focusing on the game and day to day running of the club, it's working relationship with ACL / Wasps and the club won't be paying for it.
Can you point out where I have ever said anything about CCFC / Otium? I know you will be fucking off soon before the football starts but feel free to have a good look.
Nick
Administrator
Another well thought out retort.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I've not said it does but it is trying to blur the lines. It's saying that it's nothing to do with the club it's the owners when in fact it is the club. You're the one who gets upset when the lines are blurred between club and owners why do you accept it this way around and not when fans do it. Unless of course you're suggesting that the club doesn't realise that it's operating arm is listed in the application.
Nick
Administrator
It isn't trying to blur the lines at all.
It is saying that the club are going to continue to focus on CCFC, the football, links with ACL etc and that the club won't be liable for the costs. That's why I said when people like Oggy and Robins who are clearly CCFC start turning up to court or missing training to deal with the legal action then you would start to have a point.
I correct people when people say that CCFC is SISU and they are the same thing yes.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I haven't played the man have I? I asked you a list of questions based on observations of your behaviour, some of those observations you've continued to do since I asked the questions. You've replied by calling me a little bitch while making out I only play the man. Why don't you address the points in my original post? They're legitimate points that you've continued to legitimised since they were raised. Like I said in my OP I'm not the only one who's observed this bizarre behaviour of yours. You know I go to games, you know I comment on match threads, you know I just haven't just suddenly reappeared so you result to calling me a little bitch rather than address the point.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
So the statement acknowledges that Otium are a claimant then? Or does it make out it it's nothing to do with the club.
Nick
Administrator
Erm.. So when you reply just saying "SISU will be proud", "Fisher will be proud" rather than completely disproving the things I have said it isn't attempting the play the man not the ball?
I couldn't give a toss if you and others notice that I point out the obvious posting behaviour of others and that something is clearly going on, I started pointing certain things out about 10 days ago that made it quite clear.
I haven't said you have just re-appeared have I? As I said, if you look I say that to certain people. The same as I was posting DJ Khaled gifs for another one.
Which points haven't been addressed? You are trying to use the club's statement to try and point out that I never disagree with the club, in fact the club statement doesn't disprove anything I have been saying in the slightest and the fact that last time I went through and picked apart a club statement you still tried to argue it still after I had slated it.
Nick
Administrator
It makes out the day to day running of CCFC will remain as it is and that CCFC won't be paying for it. It's a far cry from the CCFC and SISU are the same thing I correct people on that you think this somehow disproves.
PorkyCovvy
Member
If the owner of our football club was a local gent from Coventry and he appealed this would the fans be saying he's doing everything possible to defend the club?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Try answering the points in the original post. I can't believe I let you suck me into this nonsense. It's exactly the point I was making.
You really shouldn't talk about unity when you can't even acknowledge what's really happening with the club at the hands of the owners. On that note. Goodbye.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
SISU sell up and leave.
People can be concerned about both. Why should any supporter be happy that the club is being used by either side. Its not something to throw around in court cases or PR battles. We're on a football forum for christs sake, we shouldn't have a load of PR accounts springing back in to life defending any side that isn't CCFC.
blueflint
Well-Known Member
you still don't get it cause thats exactly what it is as sis own otium they own us
Nick
Administrator
What's wrong, getting too close to kickoff time?
Suck you into this nonsense? Again, nice bit of irony there after you have given it the "they must be proud" nonsense.The difference is, it's globally known that the legal action is nonsense. I have said multiple times they have no chance of winning and predicted it. With that, it's globally agreed and nobody disagrees so that conversation / topic dies a death.
When I point out certain accounts and the PR, strangely enough people argue that until the death even though I keep being proven right about when I do point it out.
Nick
Administrator
I do get it, it's quite clearly you who doesn't.
That doesn't make CCFC the same thing as SISU.
Moff
Well-Known Member
Does it really matter, frankly who gives a shit. Whether it was 1 or 10000 it doesn't change the clubs position does it.
Gosford Green
Well-Known Member
What you or I think is indifferent, CRFC and I imagine Wasps have a problem with the level of separation between Otium/CCFC and Wasps. These are the people who matter.
the fact that we have the lowest home attendance (excluding those at sixfields) in living memory also shows that there is something quite wrong.
No doubt you will wheel out Wembley to try and help your slightly odd perception on the clubs situation, it was an event, a bit of box ticking. My mate took his wife who would never go to a football match usually and has even stated before that she hates it, but they made a weekend of it in London. They went to watch the Stone Roses at Wembley a few weeks later as they really enjoyed their first sunshine filled London mini break (as she calls it) and did it again, same hotel, same eateries etc, and she would not know Ian Brown from Gordan Brown, the music was secondary to the event as was the football for her in the checkatrade final.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Been on holiday again since the last defeat?
Nick
Administrator
So you are saying the attendance is low because people think CCFC are SISU?
