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SuperFred

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Is three at the back the way to go now with Jones out?

I don't see how we can continue to play with 2 wingers when we don't have any who are at the required level. Vicente has been poor and according to Shipley he's naturally a CM. Devon KE isn't good enough to play every game imo and please don't get me started on McNulty playing out wide. Could maybe move Haynes to LW with Stokes at LB but we have no one to play RW bar Vicente. The one thing we can't replace is Jones' pace on the counter and we will have to address this immediately in January.

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Willis Rod Stokes/Davies

Grimmer Doyle Kelly (how long is he out for?) Haynes

Stevenson/Shipley

Biamou Duck

Something like this? Can you just start playing 3 at the back mid season with no practice?

The transfer window will define our season.
 
stupot07

stupot07

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It just makes us more defensive, especially with that personnel, 5 defenders, 3 pretty much defensively minded midfielders and only 2 recognised attacking players.

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Londonccfcfan

Londonccfcfan

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We have the basis to be still challenging we have the best defense.

Just now need our misfiring strikers to fire.
 
ccfcricoh

ccfcricoh

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We may need some to be tried slightly out of position... can we just go back to old school 4-4-2
 
Nick

Nick

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stupot07 said:
It just makes us more defensive, especially with that personnel, 5 defenders, 3 pretty much defensively minded midfielders and only 2 recognised attacking players.

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I'd go with it, with the idea of whipping as many crosses in as possible either to biamous head or low to six yard line.

Just relies on the wing backs being able to do that.

He will need to change something I think or he is going to need to unleash a surprise squad player who can do a job.
 
steve82

steve82

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Personally I'd go
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-----Davies--Mcdonald--Stokes---
-Grimmer--Doyle--Kelly--Haynes--
---------McNulty--Nazon----------
-------------Biamou--------------
 
ccfcricoh

ccfcricoh

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SuperFred said:
With who on the wings?
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Not entirely sure ha - Haynes on the left and Stevenson on the right? (hence the comment about playing out of position!)

Worried about promoting Haynes up to midfield as with Doyle and Kelly in there that's 3 defence minded players (even though Haynes does push on!)
 
ccfcricoh

ccfcricoh

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steve82 said:
Personally I'd go
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-----Davies--Mcdonald--Stokes---
-Grimmer--Doyle--Kelly--Haynes--
---------McNulty--Nazon----------
-------------Biamou--------------
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Looks an OK team but thats effectively 7 defenders on the pitch!

Do we need to take a risk on leaking a few goals to try and actually score some?
 
steve82

steve82

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ccfcricoh said:
Looks an OK team but thats effectively 7 defenders on the pitch!

Do we need to take a risk on leaking a few goals to try and actually score some?
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Only if there told to be.... let's face it MR wants he forwards to be defensive. Haynes and Grimmer can push a lot more forwards comfortably and let Doyle and Kelly(if fit) do what they do. Grimmer and Haynes are the only players in the squad left who can run at players with that injection of pace.
 
ccfcricoh

ccfcricoh

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steve82 said:
Only if there told to be.... let's face it MR wants he forwards to be defensive. Haynes and Grimmer can push a lot more forwards comfortably and let Doyle and Kelly(if fit) do what they do. Grimmer and Haynes are the only players in the squad left who can run at players with that injection of pace.
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Agree... Just concerned goals is our issue and we're losing Jones and replacing with a more instinctively defensive player...

It's not an easy one and Robins will be made to earn his money now!

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covcity4life

covcity4life

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No keep same formation that has us 6th. Play anyone from haynes nazon mcnulty Vicente dke out wide until january window opens.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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4-2-4

Grimmer - Willis - McD - Stokes
Doyle - Kelly
Nazon - Mcnulty - Biamou - Beavon

Just play horrible football, win it at the back and boot it long to Biamou and gamble off knock downs.
 
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aloisiwouldhavescored

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Anyone know if Grimmer will be back tomorrow? Know he get concussed a couple of weeks ago and MR is being precautionary but would be good to have him back. Same goes for Kelly, we weren't the same when he went off on Tuesday night.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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aloisiwouldhavescored said:
Anyone know if Grimmer will be back tomorrow? Know he get concussed a couple of weeks ago and MR is being precautionary but would be good to have him back. Same goes for Kelly, we weren't the same when he went off on Tuesday night.
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I'd like us to win without Kelly tomorrow if at all possible. It sounds like his injury is something that he just needs to rest off. If we don't play him tomorrow he then can sit out the FA Cup game and be back for the Christmas run in. Worst thing we can do is force him back and play those games without him.
 
stevefloyd

stevefloyd

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Can but try Vincenti there where he doesn't have to have top speed, he is an awkward player and gives us height in the middle leave Shipley where he is and an other on the opposite flank, DKE isn't up for it neither is Maycock so I guess the only other option is Stevenson but I suspect he will play in the middle and again push the pacy Vincenti out wide
 
Nick

Nick

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I reckon Vincenti more central would let us get the best out of him. He isn't a winger so is never going to fly down the wing and whip a cross in.

He does use his gangly legs to tackle and cut out passes and has actually quite good feet when needed.
 
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dongonzalos

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Yes

...........................Burge

..............Willis Mcdonald Stokes

Grimmer ..............................Haynes
.........................Doyle or Kelly.......................
........................Kelly or Stevenson...............
.........McNulty............................Duck.........
...............................Biamou.............

Also I would sell Willis if we can get decent money to buy a striker and a winger

Ponti to come on in last 30 minutes of
Games
Shipley to replace Duck or McNulty
Davies to replace Willis
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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Sell Willis no has not enough of our future already gone to Swansea, Leicester and Man .U this season . As to buying a striker (someone I said at the time we were lacking) M R could not do a good job of that in the summer when teams were more prepared to let them go than January.
 
stupot07

stupot07

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No need to bring in an extra defender and go 352/532, we should resurrect the diamond.

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skybluegod

skybluegod

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stupot07 said:
No need to bring in an extra defender and go 352/532, we should resurrect the diamond.

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Is Haynes good enough defensively to do that? I wouldn’t say so.
If we narrow the midfield then we are going to leave him very exposed.

Could possibly go with a narrow 4-3-3?

Grimmer-Willis-Rod-Haynes
——Stevenson-Doyle-Kelly/Shipley
————McNulty-Biamou-Nazon
 
stupot07

stupot07

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skybluegod said:
Is Haynes good enough defensively to do that? I wouldn’t say so.
If we narrow the midfield then we are going to leave him very exposed.

Could possibly go with a narrow 4-3-3?

Grimmer-Willis-Rod-Haynes
——Stevenson-Doyle-Kelly/Shipley
————McNulty-Biamou-Nazon
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My thoughts are regardless of Haynes defensive abilities, we're in league 2 there isn't another wide player of the quality of Jones so with Doyle and the wider central player going across to support Haynes we would be OK. Its more in possession where thr diamond would help us given the personal, and Haynes and grimmer would give us width, and strength to control possession in the middle.


Not aimed at you, but I know a lot are clamouring for 532/352, but its never worked at Coventry under any manager that has tried it, so its either that, round pegs in square holes (I reckon robins will do) or trying something else, your 433 would be worth a try too.

So McNulty or nazon on the right wing today I reckon

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skybluegod

skybluegod

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stupot07 said:
My thoughts are regardless of Haynes defensive abilities, we're in league 2 there isn't another wide player of the quality of Jones so with Doyle and the wider central player going across to support Haynes we would be OK. Its more in possession where thr diamond would help us given the personal, and Haynes and grimmer would give us width, and strength to control possession in the middle.


Not aimed at you, but I know a lot are clamouring for 532/352, but its never worked at Coventry under any manager that has tried it, so its either that, round pegs in square holes (I reckon robins will do) or trying something else, your 433 would be worth a try too.

So McNulty or nazon on the right wing today I reckon

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Would also argue that the diamond hasn’t worked particularly well at Coventry either! And the only idiot to try- at least in my memory was Andy Thorn.
I think the players we have might suit it? I do just worry about the width as I say... also the diamond often involves being able to pass the ball to our own players!! Something we have struggled with!
 
stupot07

stupot07

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skybluegod said:
Would also argue that the diamond hasn’t worked particularly well at Coventry either! And the only idiot to try- at least in my memory was Andy Thorn.
I think the players we have might suit it? I do just worry about the width as I say... also the diamond often involves being able to pass the ball to our own players!! Something we have struggled with!
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Haha, yeah thats true, although we seem to be able to do it between the back 4 to doyl abd kelly and back again!

Tbf, the diamond worked worked in that 10 game stint after aidy boothroyd, it did fail the season after, but its hard to know whether it was thr system or the poor squad.

Yeah I agree, the lack of width is a worry. We really should have signed another winger in the summer!

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skybluegod

skybluegod

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stupot07 said:
Haha, yeah thats true, although we seem to be able to do it between the back 4 to doyl abd kelly and back again!

Tbf, the diamond worked worked in that 10 game stint after aidy boothroyd, it did fail the season after, but its hard to know whether it was thr system or the poor squad.

Yeah I agree, the lack of width is a worry. We really should have signed another winger in the summer!

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Yep agree on all of that. I said at the end of summer we needed another winger because if Jodi got injured the season would likely be over. If he can be replaced in January we might be okay but have to wait and see
 
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