10 Clubs that could play in empty stadiums and still profit (1 Viewer)

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Interesting article on the BBC. The TV money makes a massive difference higher up in the leagues. So much so that 10 premier league teams could still have made a profit had they had no fans attend at all.

However in the case of the really big clubs gate receipts are still important because of what they spend on getting the stars in to their team (Man U Arsenal Liverpool etc). But it is focused on Corporate business not the average fan

The lower you go the more dependent teams are on gate money. But seems that CCFC are not the only ones dependent on gate money and they do not appear in the top 10 of clubs where matchday income forms the greatest part of turnover. (although I think that's wrong because matchday income in the 2017 accounts was 40.1% - the breakdown is in the SBS&L accounts not Otium)

Premier League: 10 of 20 clubs could have made profits in 2016-17 without fans at games
 

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Covkid1968#

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I wouldn't like it either - basically...the fan who actually goes to watch man united is less important that the millions of plastics!!!!. Feck that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

chiefdave

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How come Sheff Utd are so far ahead in that table? What income are they missing out on that everyone else is getting?

Football really needs sorting out but you're talking about salary caps / floors, maximum squad sizes etc and those at the top will never vote for that as it means they have less chance of winning and can't make money by taking every promising youngster and then charging to loan them out.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
How come Sheff Utd are so far ahead in that table? What income are they missing out on that everyone else is getting?

Football really needs sorting out but you're talking about salary caps / floors, maximum squad sizes etc and those at the top will never vote for that as it means they have less chance of winning and can't make money by taking every promising youngster and then charging to loan them out.

To be honest I think there has been some very simplistic calculations being done. I do not think there is a set definition of match day income. I find it hard to believe that Sheff utd made sales of 7.9m from their crowds. I think teams allocate or differentiate between income sources as they choose to not to a set definition

This is what was in their figures for 2017
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In the SBS&L accounts the split was

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stupot07

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How come Sheff Utd are so far ahead in that table? What income are they missing out on that everyone else is getting?

Football really needs sorting out but you're talking about salary caps / floors, maximum squad sizes etc and those at the top will never vote for that as it means they have less chance of winning and can't make money by taking every promising youngster and then charging to loan them out.
Weren't they in league one that season with the biggest attendances and less PL payments, tv rights, etc for being in the league one that you get in the championship? If so they are comparing apples and oranges, forest green were non league.

Sheffield united - average 21, 892
Millwall - average 8,723

Both in league one, its not rocket science to see why Sheffield united have a higher % of fan income.

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