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GaryJones

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Thinking of players we loved here who moved on thinking the grass was greener & spectacularly back-fired.
3 Recent ones that spring to mind -
Marc NcNulty (although he could turn it around)
George Thomas
Duckens Nazon

I’m sure the list is endless - but they must be players we thought were hero’s to qualify!
 

Grendel

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Thinking of players we loved here who moved on thinking the grass was greener & spectacularly back-fired.
3 Recent ones that spring to mind -
Marc NcNulty (although he could turn it around)
George Thomas
Duckens Nazon

I’m sure the list is endless - but they must be players we thought were hero’s to qualify!

Financially it’s a lot greener for Thomas
 

skyblueelephant76

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Thinking of players we loved here who moved on thinking the grass was greener & spectacularly back-fired.
3 Recent ones that spring to mind -
Marc NcNulty (although he could turn it around)
George Thomas
Duckens Nazon

I’m sure the list is endless - but they must be players we thought were hero’s to qualify!
Nazon moved to the league above us and scored goals then got a move to the Belgian top flight - I'm not sure how that classes spectacularly backfiring.
 

GaryJones

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Ok I concede that you might have a point with Nazon.
He did go to a league above with Oldham - who he saw relegated back to the league he left "to play at a higher level".
He is now playing in the Belgian top flight which is indeed true - Sint-Truiden average about 6,000 so I would say they are probably equivalent to a bottom end League 1 team or a top end League 2 team which is hardly progress.
I do agree that its not a spectacular back-fire though!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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George Thomas is a weird one for me - he seems to be doing really well for Welsh national teams when selected, yet Scunthorpe seem to keep him on the bench, which I can't think Leicester (or he) will be too happy about. I think he will end up in the Championship at best, as the lack of height,pace/dribbling will hold him back from reaching the top level. Very good technically, though.
 

GaryJones

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Is he now a vacuum cleaner salesman?
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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Danny fox didn’t do a lot at Celtic which surprised me as I thought he would of done really well
 

fernandopartridge

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The one that stands out for me more than any other.
Michael Mifsud got greedy snd two big for his boots. Listened to his agent and left to become nothing within 12 months
Mifsud wasn't fancied by Coleman. He weren't that good either tbf but better than Eastwood who replaced him
 

itsabuzzard

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Heroes
Thinking of players we loved here who moved on thinking the grass was greener & spectacularly back-fired.
3 Recent ones that spring to mind -
Marc NcNulty (although he could turn it around)
George Thomas
Duckens Nazon

I’m sure the list is endless - but they must be players we thought were hero’s to qualify!

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Magwitch

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Depends what you call failure, do we all really believe leaving a third/fourth division club to join the then reigning premier league champions failure? Okay he hasn’tt burst into their first team yet but had become an international and come to think of it was he a first choice regular here ? Stevenson similar really signed by perhaps the most improving club in the country and by their current manager too, time on his side, also not a regular here. Then we have, McNulty done nothing yet at struggling Reading hardly played so can’t be blamed at all, this time last year according to a lot of our resident experts was pants. Footballs a funny old game
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Depends what you call failure, do we all really believe leaving a third/fourth division club to join the then reigning premier league champions failure? Okay he hasn’tt burst into their first team yet but had become an international and come to think of it was he a first choice regular here ? Stevenson similar really signed by perhaps the most improving club in the country and by their current manager too, time on his side, also not a regular here. Then we have, McNulty done nothing yet at struggling Reading hardly played so can’t be blamed at all, this time last year according to a lot of our resident experts was pants. Footballs a funny old game

He joined the ‘reigning champions’ U23s.

From a professional standpoint, Thomas’ career has regressed, or at best, stagnated. He’s increased his wages, yes. Got an international call-up, yes. But, these are all short-term gains. With us, he was the main man, now he’s on the bench at Scunthorpe — so that should tell you something about where he’s at. Last season playing U23s was a waste for him because it’s senior football he needs to develop. He probably won’t be on life changing money at Leicester and he won’t get anymore international call ups if he’s not playing/benching for L1 teams.

Imagine if Thomas had stayed with us (or stayed with a L1 team) and had a great 15-20 goal season? He would’ve earned a move to a Championship team just like McNulty, Elisa, Marriott and so on. McNulty will most likely be on significantly more money than Thomas too.
 

Liquid Gold

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He joined the ‘reigning champions’ U23s.

From a professional standpoint, Thomas’ career has regressed, or at best, stagnated. He’s increased his wages, yes. Got an international call-up, yes. But, these are all short-term gains. With us, he was the main man, now he’s on the bench at Scunthorpe — so that should tell you something about where he’s at. Last season playing U23s was a waste for him because it’s senior football he needs to develop. He probably won’t be on life changing money at Leicester and he won’t get anymore international call ups if he’s not playing/benching for L1 teams.

Imagine if Thomas had stayed with us (or stayed with a L1 team) and had a great 15-20 goal season? He would’ve earned a move to a Championship team just like McNulty, Elisa, Marriott and so on. McNulty will most likely be on significantly more money than Thomas too.
Thats the thing, too many players/fans look at the move in front of them, which is understandable considering they could break their leg next week and never play again, but too few look at how they are going to develop immediately and where that will put them in 2/3 years time. Maddison was probably lucky that Norwich got relegated and he got the loan to Aberdeen as it gave him two full seasons to develop, Bayliss seems to have his head screwed on with regards playing first team football but for each of them you have a Bigi, Thomas, Stevenson who regressed years moving too soon.
 

Magwitch

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He joined the ‘reigning champions’ U23s.

From a professional standpoint, Thomas’ career has regressed, or at best, stagnated. He’s increased his wages, yes. Got an international call-up, yes. But, these are all short-term gains. With us, he was the main man, now he’s on the bench at Scunthorpe — so that should tell you something about where he’s at. Last season playing U23s was a waste for him because it’s senior football he needs to develop. He probably won’t be on life changing money at Leicester and he won’t get anymore international call ups if he’s not playing/benching for L1 teams.

Imagine if Thomas had stayed with us (or stayed with a L1 team) and had a great 15-20 goal season? He would’ve earned a move to a Championship team just like McNulty, Elisa, Marriott and so on. McNulty will most likely be on significantly more money than Thomas too.
If Thomas had stayed with us it’s likely we wouldn’t have signed McNulty, would he have scored 28 goals without which we wouldn’t have finished sixth. As usual football full of ifs and maybes. With respect Should take your Sky Blues specs off. We were fourth division when Thomas and Stevenson left, Leicester were premier champions, Wolves top of the championship !! No brainier for both imo. Okay come back in three or four years and see where they are
 

ccfcway

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, Bayliss seems to have his head screwed on with regards playing first team football but for each of them you have a Bigi, Thomas, Stevenson who regressed years moving too soon.

Bigi likely to be set up for life, Thomas is young and nothing to suggest he would have done a Mcnulty and Stevenson is playing in spain on considerably more money than he was on here.

99.9% of the time, I have ccfc tinted glasses on, but in cases like this, I thing we are a little biased
 

no_loyalty

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The I'm too good to play in league two Jordan Turnbull, who is now playing in a league two team near the bottom of the league, and also has a few relegation on his cv
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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If Thomas had stayed with us it’s likely we wouldn’t have signed McNulty, would he have scored 28 goals without which we wouldn’t have finished sixth. As usual football full of ifs and maybes. With respect Should take your Sky Blues specs off. We were fourth division when Thomas and Stevenson left, Leicester were premier champions, Wolves top of the championship !! No brainier for both imo. Okay come back in three or four years and see where they are

Thomas nor Stevenson has made a senior appearance for Leicester or Wolves. In fact, both were specifically signed for their U23s. Stevenson, if you remember, moved to Colchester on loan and managed to establish himself there as a bench warmer. In fairness to Stevenson, he wasn’t getting game time with us, so I don’t blame him for forcing a move. I doubt he’ll make ever make an appearance for Wolves. Likewise for Thomas at Leicester, again, who since he’s left us, isn’t playing first team football. League 2 is a higher standard than U23 football and regardless of whether or not we got promoted or not, had he scored 15-20 goals, top end L1 or Championship teams would’ve been in for him. You can’t go from playing first team football to U23s, that’s a regression whichever way you look at it. As it so happens, he’s now on the bench for a L1 side.

Take the classic example of Sambou. Left Coventry because he wasn’t getting first team football, went to Everton, has never even come close to making a senior appearance. We also played Everton U23s this preseason, and Sambou was the bench, for their U23s. You’d suspect he’ll end up playing in non-league and that contract he signed at Everton, whilst better than what we could offer, won’t last him a lifetime. Stevenson and Thomas won’t be any better off than Sambou at this rate.
 

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