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shmmeee

shmmeee

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rob9872 said:
Why does everything have to be so deep and people taking pleasure in looking at things in a way that they can be offended?

The subject of knife crime is thought provoking enough without looking for hidden meanings. Life is a lot simpler if like me, your thought process at the end was 'that was good, i enjoyed it'. What shall we watch next? I have a wife and a daughter so I'm well aware of life's imbalance that in many ways should be addressed, but ffs if you watch something for entertainment purposes then allow it to entertain you!
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It left me a bit cold until my daughter said it rang true for her how the boys were. Though she’s had some bad experiences with incel type boys. It just wasn’t really clear on anything for me, it blurred the lines between bullying knife crime misogyny and ended up not really saying anything about any of them.
 
Nick

Nick

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To be honest I think a drama about a white kid from a middle class family killing another one is easy for the media and MPs to wank over. It's nice and safe for them.
 
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Nick said:
Getting a bit bored of hearing about Adolescence hype now.

Yes, the misogyny is an issue as is social media but every day it's the media trying to ram it down throats.
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It’s not much different to the Mr Bates vs the Post Office stuff really
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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SBT said:
It’s not much different to the Mr Bates vs the Post Office stuff really
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For all Badenoch is a complete mush brained social media addict, I do agree with her that fiction isn’t a suitable thing to base policy on. It is starting to feel like if I want, say, urban mass transit I’ve got to commission an ITV drama set on trams.
 
mmttww

mmttww

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Looks like they've thought this one through.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Terrorism suspect linked to 7/7 bombings set to be released from prison

Haroon Aswat, jailed for 20 years for plotting to form extremist training camp, may be freed despite remaining ‘risk to national security’
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
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Reading the article, the law would have to be changed for him to be risk assessed and potentially kept in custody. Him being detained in a mental hospital 'precluded' that assessment being done (Judge's words). Doesn't sound like a case of someone deciding 'Yeah, he's harmless'. It's a legal loophole that probably should be closed.
 
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SBT

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fernandopartridge said:
It is really as one was based on fact whereas the other was entirely fictional
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They are obviously different (as I said) but they’re both ultimately dramatisations inspired by real-life events.

There’s no reason why well researched and/or thoughtful fiction can’t inspire policy and there’s a long history of it doing so.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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SBT said:
They are obviously different (as I said) but they’re both ultimately dramatisations inspired by real-life events.

There’s no reason why well researched and/or thoughtful fiction can’t inspire policy and there’s a long history of it doing so.
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They are totally different.

I though the Netflix programme was really not that great tbh
 
Nick

Nick

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SBT said:
I mean, it’s pretty obviously going to win a ton of awards. From an acting and a technical perspective it was mental. Episodes 1 and 3 were particularly good imo.
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It helps if you are told 27 times a day by MPs and the media how amazing and hard hitting it is. Then 56 videos showing drones filming on sponsored posts will do it as well. It was hype over drive.
 
Grendel

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SBT said:
I mean, it’s pretty obviously going to win a ton of awards. From an acting and a technical perspective it was mental. Episodes 1 and 3 were particularly good imo.
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The technical aspect was its downfall really as you couldn’t get plot dimensions. Stephen Graham seems to specialise in these and it worked in the chef drama as that’s literally a day in a kitchen - this was over 18 months and we saw 4 hours

Yes the acting from the two young actors - who it seems have never done any on screen acting before - was excellent but the plot line and character depth was very thin
 
Captain Dart

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wingy said:
Marine la penn has been found guilty today and barred from running for the presidency for five year's and likely have to wear a tag like Sarkozye, apparently for using fund's for something different from what they were intended.
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Decision on her appeal deferred till next summer, menwhile Le Pen is free to campaign.
www.politico.eu

Le Pen could still become French president after appeal slated for 2026

The shock decision comes after the far-right icon’s embezzlement conviction appeared to stop her running in 2027.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
 
SBAndy

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Nick said:
This is the hype im on about.
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You lack culture. Not my issue.

What I’m getting at is, to be honest, I wasn’t entertained in the purest sense of the word. The focus of the programme was more to highlight the impact it had on everyone around the situation, rather than focus on the situation itself. The writer literally confirmed it.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Grendel said:
The technical aspect was its downfall really as you couldn’t get plot dimensions. Stephen Graham seems to specialise in these and it worked in the chef drama as that’s literally a day in a kitchen - this was over 18 months and we saw 4 hours

Yes the acting from the two young actors - who it seems have never done any on screen acting before - was excellent but the plot line and character depth was very thin
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Some of the parts of the story were inexplicable, why were they scousers who'd decided to go any live in Doncaster?

The incel element to it was that the perp had been told he was an incel, not that he really believed in it? It didn't refer to any evidence of him being radicalised, more that being an incel was imposed on him. It
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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fernandopartridge said:
Some of the parts of the story were inexplicable, why were they scousers who'd decided to go any live in Doncaster?

The incel element to it was that the perp had been told he was an incel, not that he really believed in it? It didn't refer to any evidence of him being radicalised, more that being an incel was imposed on him. It
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Did you miss episode three? He did believe it.
 
Nick

Nick

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SBAndy said:
You lack culture. Not my issue.

What I’m getting at is, to be honest, I wasn’t entertained in the purest sense of the word. The focus of the programme was more to highlight the impact it had on everyone around the situation, rather than focus on the situation itself. The writer literally confirmed it.
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Like I said, it's the hype train.

It's a Netflix TV show FFS. The way people are being so deep is hilarious. That again comes back to all of the media, the hype, MPs banging on about it.

For somebody who will have just put it on. Watched it. Moved into the next thing on Netflix and didn't pay any attention to the huge media campaign behind it then it's just that.

The pr campaign that has gone along with it you build up hype is massive.
 
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