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long way home

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Sooner or later a ref has to call it our way, far too many games lately the refs have not been kind. And those decisions have effected the pattern of the game.
 

David O'Day

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Shocking. I'd love to hear the referee justify not sending him off. They need to be held accountable for these sorts of decisions when they're letting dangerous play go.
pure lack of bottle, allen didn't roll over 7 times so gave the ref a chance to fanny his way out of sending him off
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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Yesterday’s ref has not shown a single red card all season.

But before we get too agitated can I point out that Sakamoto gets sent off for his kick out after being fouled in 99% of games?
 

PVA

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Yesterday’s ref has not shown a single red card all season.

But before we get too agitated can I point out that Sakamoto gets sent off for his kick out after being fouled in 99% of games?

Yeah he got very lucky there, surprised the Plymouth lad didn't make more of it. It was very silly and very uncharacteristic of him.
 

Hobo

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Yesterday’s ref has not shown a single red card all season.

But before we get too agitated can I point out that Sakamoto gets sent off for his kick out after being fouled in 99% of games?

Also regardless of whether it should have been a red or not. FL, the coaches and the players prepared to play a Plymouth side with 11 players over 90 minutes. We were poor from back to front. We never troubled them, didn't have a spell of sustained pressure and never looked like scoring. Even Wright's goal came out of the blue. We seemed clueless how to break them down and get in behind them. We have seen this problem several times under Robins and Lampard.

This for me is far more worrying than the ref getting it wrong and giving a player a yellow that should have been a red. If anything it should have galvanised us. Sport is about overcoming problems and finding a way to get the result.
 

RoboCCFC90

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Also regardless of whether it should have been a red or not. FL, the coaches and the players prepared to play a Plymouth side with 11 players over 90 minutes. We were poor from back to front. We never troubled them, didn't have a spell of sustained pressure and never looked like scoring. Even Wright's goal came out of the blue. We seemed clueless how to break them down and get in behind them. We have seen this problem several times under Robins and Lampard.

This for me is far more worrying than the ref getting it wrong and giving a player a yellow that should have been a red. If anything it should have galvanised us. Sport is about overcoming problems and finding a way to get the result.

Spot on Hobo.
 

Nuskyblue

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Also regardless of whether it should have been a red or not. FL, the coaches and the players prepared to play a Plymouth side with 11 players over 90 minutes. We were poor from back to front. We never troubled them, didn't have a spell of sustained pressure and never looked like scoring. Even Wright's goal came out of the blue. We seemed clueless how to break them down and get in behind them. We have seen this problem several times under Robins and Lampard.

This for me is far more worrying than the ref getting it wrong and giving a player a yellow that should have been a red. If anything it should have galvanised us. Sport is about overcoming problems and finding a way to get the result.
The way to get around Plymouth was to create overloads. Some Saka/MVE interplay on the right would have helped create something, I'm not sure why we look to do this less as a rule now.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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The way to get around Plymouth was to create overloads. Some Saka/MVE interplay on the right would have helped create something, I'm not sure why we look to do this less as a rule now.
It’s the away from home way the full backs don’t attack as they would at home but we still left gaps even so
 

Nuskyblue

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It’s the away from home way the full backs don’t attack as they would at home but we still left gaps even so
One full back creating an overload should be easily covered, even away from home!

I do think MVE and JDS have been asked to take up more central positions in the build up, they pop up in CM more often in recent times it seems.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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One full back creating an overload should be easily covered, even away from home!

I do think MVE and JDS have been asked to take up more central positions in the build up, they pop up in CM more often in recent times it seems.
Oh I agree and even though we didn’t try it in any meaningful way we were still open
 

Hobo

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The way to get around Plymouth was to create overloads. Some Saka/MVE interplay on the right would have helped create something, I'm not sure why we look to do this less as a rule now.

Yes or go longer into the middle and look to pick up the second ball off their centre halves. The only player who looks to whip balls into the penalty area first time in games is Grimes. Our tempo is far too slow when teams drop off us and always has been.
 

Legia Sky Blue

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Yes or go longer into the middle and look to pick up the second ball off their centre halves. The only player who looks to whip balls into the penalty area first time in games is Grimes. Our tempo is far too slow when teams drop off us and always has been.

We were far too pedestrian in our build up, constantly working the ball wide ready to get a cross in, but instead turning back retaining possession, but allowing the Plymouth defenders time to get themselves organised, meaning that the eventual attempt to play a ball into the box was from no better a position than if we had crossed the ball at the first opportunity. That tactic is fine when you are ahead and controlling a game, but instances like on Saturday when we were behind in the game required more urgency. I hope we don't end up in the same situation against Luton.
 

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