How long do we wait to form a breakaway club? (1 Viewer)

@richh87

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Two questions

1. Could you support a breakaway team to play at the Ricoh if the club remain in Northampton for 5-10 years?

2. How long should we 'wait and see' before forming this new club?




For me it's

1. Yes.

2. Form one for the start of next season.


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Grendel

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No and never
 

Nick

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I would think only if the club is liquidated or if it turns out the move is 100% permanent and even then it wouldn't quite be the same.
 

@richh87

Member
Anyone seriously negotiating to be based at the Ricoh will bring this farce to an end

That did cross my mind, although I don't think SISU would come running back even with the threat of a breakaway club.

It might even give them an excuse to take the club somewhere else that needs a team.


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dongonzalos

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That did cross my mind, although I don't think SISU would come running back even with the threat of a breakaway club.

It might even give them an excuse to take the club somewhere else that needs a team.


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They would need somewhere with an instant fan base. That would take serious investment
 

Danceswithhorses

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Yes, our loyalty and passion for our club are being used by SISU to have a hold over us-they are SISU's biggest bargaining chips in this crazy poker game.
If we start again, they cease to have any power, and we can return to our home city.
They are quite happy to screw over good people, so let them have some of their own medicine.
As for when...who knows. It's not like any of us has experienced such bleak times before-i guess we'll just know when the time is right ?
 

hill83

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I would think only if the club is liquidated or if it turns out the move is 100% permanent and even then it wouldn't quite be the same.


Pretty much this, but I wouldn't be involved at all. That would be me done.
 

Grendel

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Pretty much this, but I wouldn't be involved at all. That would be me done.

Me as well - a new club has zero interest.
 

shmmeee

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Don't want another club. One shouldn't be set up until CCFC is dead, no more.

Eventually Sisu will leave, then I'll return. Or the club will be liquidated, but I doubt it'll go out of existence, more likely another "special dispensation" from the FL.
 

RPHunt

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Agree with it or not, at least this is a post discussing a possible future instead of endlessly raking over the the past.
 

fernandopartridge

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Two questions

1. Could you support a breakaway team to play at the Ricoh if the club remain in Northampton for 5-10 years?

2. How long should we 'wait and see' before forming this new club?




For me it's

1. Yes.

2. Form one for the start of next season.


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Fuck off and do it now if you want. We can't sustain 100 on the hill so a breakaway club is a non starter.
 

BrisbaneBronco

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Why would anyone support a breakaway club at this moment in time?
We have potentially the best team and manager for a long time. The play offs are definately possible.
A breakaway club playing at the Ricoh would no doubt be paying rent to ACL, as they could not afford ownership of the Ricoh.
I have no idea how this will all end, or whether plans for a new stadium are pie in the sky.
Suggest reviewing at the end of the season, as a lot can happen. ACL/CCC may cave in, Judicial review may go in our favour
 

letsallsingtogether

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yes from next season thats me done after 40 years if they are not back then sorry nor will I.
It will be cov rugger for me .
I would go to a breakaway club at the Ricoh but not anywhere else
 

mds

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1. No, but we will have a better idea in the next 6-12mths if we are going to be playing at the Ricoh or near Cov in 3-5yrs.

2. Ive only known 1 Team only supported 1 team, if the worst comes to the worst no other team would be the same, my answer to that, YOU wait till you know there never coming back, but no other team will be MY TEAM!
 

valiant15

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Why would anyone support a breakaway club at this moment in time?
We have potentially the best team and manager for a long time. The play offs are definately possible.
A breakaway club playing at the Ricoh would no doubt be paying rent to ACL, as they could not afford ownership of the Ricoh.
I have no idea how this will all end, or whether plans for a new stadium are pie in the sky.
Suggest reviewing at the end of the season, as a lot can happen. ACL/CCC may cave in, Judicial review may go in our favour

Our favour? Don't you mean sisu's favour?
 
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Flying Fokker

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Why would anyone support a breakaway club at this moment in time?
We have potentially the best team and manager for a long time. The play offs are definately possible.
A breakaway club playing at the Ricoh would no doubt be paying rent to ACL, as they could not afford ownership of the Ricoh.
I have no idea how this will all end, or whether plans for a new stadium are pie in the sky.
Suggest reviewing at the end of the season, as a lot can happen. ACL/CCC may cave in, Judicial review may go in our favour
Ahem, forgive me on this, ' our favour'. SISU couldn't care less about 'our' club. They want the stadium. They want land.
 

@richh87

Member
Fuck off and do it now if you want. We can't sustain 100 on the hill so a breakaway club is a non starter.

I think the part of me that wants to form a breakaway club wants to do so as it's the only way to defeat SISU.

The threat of it would cause them some real panic. They have no answer to that one.


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bigfatronssba

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I think this should be done purely as a threat.

Give sisu an ultimatum. Unless by the end of this season sisu have clear plans to return to Coventry (the actual city, not somewhere near it), then we fans shall set up our own club representing this city.

Coventry needs to have a major football club. Somewhere near Coventry isn't good enough for me im afraid.
 

letsallsingtogether

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I don't believe they know what they wan't to be honest? and even if they did they would go the wrong way about it


Ahem, forgive me on this, ' our favour'. SISU couldn't care less about 'our' club. They want the stadium. They want land.
 

ccfctommy

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What I worry about is, how long will Northampton last? And when will we return home?

I get worried as I cannot see SISU buying the Ricoh nor them building a new ground.

The future is very uncertain.
 

_brian_

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And if the breakaway club ever gets moved out of Coventry we could sing:

"Don't take away my Breakaway*!!!"

LOL! Love it!!!

(*This brilliant pun will only work for you if you can remember the song used in the adverts for the Breakaway chocolate biscuit. If you don't remember this, then please ignore this post as the chance of you lolling is very slim, I'm afraid!)
 

Gint11

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Couldn't do it. For me forming a new club just loses the history. When I was a kid and learning about football, my dad started getting me into CCFC and I was drawn in by obviously going to games but the history of the club. Obviously not winning tons of Silverware but where we played, players we had, certain moments like the FA Cup win, like the famous free kick, when Huckerby went on that run against Utd, when we won at Villa the first time so on so on. Forming a new club just wipes that away. Cant do it.
 

Moff

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I think the part of me that wants to form a breakaway club wants to do so as it's the only way to defeat SISU.

The threat of it would cause them some real panic. They have no answer to that one.

I dont think it would cause them panic. Coventry Utd have started this season, and I have neither seen CCFC fans flocking to them, nor any signof panic from SISU.

I am a CCFC fan and if they went they would be it for me.
 

cochese

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Instead of forming a breakaway club, why not just go and support Coventry United of Coventry Sphinx? Because any team you form will have no connection to Coventry City. I find this whole idea of seeing Coventry playing in Northampton as not being Coventry City a bit irrational. Especially when there are still so many fans going to away games.
 

bigfatronssba

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Couldn't do it. For me forming a new club just loses the history. When I was a kid and learning about football, my dad started getting me into CCFC and I was drawn in by obviously going to games but the history of the club. Obviously not winning tons of Silverware but where we played, players we had, certain moments like the FA Cup win, like the famous free kick, when Huckerby went on that run against Utd, when we won at Villa the first time so on so on. Forming a new club just wipes that away. Cant do it.

I understand your feelings I really do.

The history of the club is important to me as well. You have to look at it though and ask, are we the same club that was founded in 1883?

Since then we've changed names, moved stadiums several times, different players, different owners, different operating company, different badge, and now moved to a completely different town!

Surely "the club" is nothing more than what the fans feel it is? The collective crowd is the only constant in the history of Coventry city.
 

NorthernWisdom

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Surely "the club" is nothing more than what the fans feel it is? The collective crowd is the only constant in the history of Coventry city.

I don't disagree with that.

I do think the club needs to be dead first, though.

Coupled with that, if a new club was set up now it just sends out a message, along with barely anybody turning up to protests, that we give up really easily!
 

Gint11

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I understand your feelings I really do.

The history of the club is important to me as well. You have to look at it though and ask, are we the same club that was founded in 1883?

Since then we've changed names, moved stadiums several times, different players, different owners, different operating company, different badge, and now moved to a completely different town!

Surely "the club" is nothing more than what the fans feel it is? The collective crowd is the only constant in the history of Coventry city.


Yes we are in my opinion, we still bear the name Coventry City FC. No club is exactly the same as when they formed. All the comings and goings were within the name of CCFC
 

RogerH

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I think when the JR appeal is determined we will have a better idea what direction things are heading in. If the appeal is dismissed, SISU's chance of owning the Ricoh on their terms is reduced, and they may be forced down the new stadium route. If the appeal is upheld I think it will herald a battle between SISU and CCC for the Ricoh.

I do not detect a groundswell of opinion favouring a new club yet, it may come to it if the appeal is dismissed and we still get no progress on the new stadium front.
 

shy_tall_knight

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I think by January we will know if this is a starter or not. The fact that SISU were prepared to move the club to Northampton convinces me that they are determined and will continue down this path in order to achieve their objectives the freehold of the Ricoh for significantly less than market price. CCC & ACL will always challenge this if not constrained by law the councillors have their political careers to think of.
 

edgy

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Thanks but no thanks. In my eyes, once you've picked your club you stand by it until one of you kicks the bucket. No flouncing.
 

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