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Good point Dutchman, I can assume that Spain will be fairly non negotiable on this issue in relation to Scotland, to prevent the scenario you mentioned ever becoming a possibility.

Well it looks like Sturgeons master plan has, at this time, met some opposition Brexit: Spain and France oppose Scotland EU talks http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36656980

That's very true. I do feel there is a lot more to it though, than NI and Scotland just voting to stay in. Sturgeon is playing a great PR game at the moment, and clearly wants independence and yes sadly the referendum works in her favour on this issue. I believe independence is truly her goal...

The wobble wont last forever, although looking at how the next few years may pan out, the wobble may be back and forth like a yoyo.

Fair point taken on board.

So the implied tone that 'people should fuck off back to where they came from' isn't suggesting racism? I suggest otherwise. The word racist has been used a number of times through the thread.

I thought you would be a #leave voter... For Connor Thomas ;)

Bloody hell I know this post was aimed at someone else but you are coming across as a huge bigot. I have spoken to quite a number of leave voters who voted on democratic issues, as well as financial ones, with nothing related to immigration as they realise that there will still be a large...

Its a mockery of democracy only as you disagree with the way the vote went. I didn't vote leave but accept the decision. Both sides bent the truth, but you seem to have missed that.

Well Tony, we cant call each other stupid today as we agree with each other. I agree that there would be a much lower turnout if there was ever a second referendum, I think a number of voters, probably more Out voters,wouldn't bother voting again due to it making a bit of a mockery of...

You mean the very same elected people that were voted in by the public in the first place. So let me get this straight, the public shouldn't make these decisions, the elected people elected by the public in the first place should, but if it wasn't for the public these people wouldn't be elected...

Bojo slaps Cameron in the face with his white leather glove and challenges him to a dual, muskets at Dawn? Rather that than a drinking contest, Farage would wipe Cameron out.

Well I suppose with Brexit being possibly two plus years away, and given the nature of this thread already, I suppose it will still give everyone something to argue about after CCFC have gone out of business.

I was only 10 when the SDP formed! ;)

They seem so entrenched at the moment, and the political climate seems to have changed in Scotland. I never thought I would have seen a referendum on an independent Scotland. I take on board about the SDP, like you I do remember their rise and fall, and about the Liberals, but that was down to...

I admire your optimism ;)

Yes that would be sad, but the world will keep moving on, and it wont lead to Armageddon (I know you weren't suggesting that Stu) The SNP want independence, they will keep trying for it, and one day they will probably get it. If it doesn't happen re this, it will happen in time for another reason.

I am sure they are hoping that Scotland and NI stay in the EU, they will be short of a few quid when we Exit and will need someone to add a bit of cash to the reserves.

Unlike some of the bigots on this site, I presume he is fairly well informed and await the future with eyes open and unblinkered in the hope that the decision to leave the EU will have positive outcomes as well as the negative ones. As McDonnell is an MP, I hope that he and like minded...

The only idiotic thing is your fucking stupid reply. You banged on about the bank and builders shares going down. I merely pointed out that that is also what happened in the recession. The other facts you pointed out I already knew you moron. It doesn't matter how we got there the world moves...