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And the fact they literally put the son of a KGB spy in the House of Lords.

Slippery slope. How much would a £16K loan cost, do you think? And that would just be for one year's schooling.

Fuck me. They're getting really desperate now. It really is gutter politics from the cunts.

And £16Kpa is one of the "cheap" private schools. It's nonsense.

If these "average" parents are earning £30K net each then they certainly aren't average. That would be well over £40K each gross.

Well, by the looks of it, a fair few have already decided he is.

Don't think we can say that before he's even got into No. 10.

P It wasn't a short period of time. Look at the level of interest rates. People pay a hell of a lot more on a monthly basis and many more lost their homes because of Truss and her fucked up policies.

Colour me shocked.

It's almost like people want Labour to fail just because of Starmer.

I guess that's the point.

Exactly! Just what I've been banging on about.

Yes, staggering. The 2007–2008 financial crisis, or the global financial crisis (GFC), was the most severe worldwide economic crisis since the Great Depression. Predatory lending in the form of subprime mortgages targeting low-income homebuyers,[1] excessive risk-taking by global financial...

Following Farage around the country?

US lenders caused the 2008 global crash.

No, they didn't.

They didn't crash the economy.

So, I presume your £60K example is net pay? If so, then the gross would be getting on for £90K pa. Hardly average. Maybe it could be done, but you're making a lot of assumptions on average family outgoings.

Which is why I'm disputing "average" family here. Very comfortable, family with no mortgage, family who eat very little, but "average"? No way.

Might be doable for you, but I certainly couldn't afford £21K or £36K a year out of our family budget. I doubt many "average" families could. Great, if you can afford it as we all want the best possible start in life for our kids, but to say that's attainable for the average family, even if...