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He wasn't injured because he didn't play? I'm a big fan of Palmer, has a lot of ability. But, he runs out of gas at 75 mins and seems very injury prone. Not sure we can carry somebody like that tbh.

You're missing the point. Nobody created the English game from a blank canvass with franchises and a shit load of cash. The money is irrelevant. Nobody really cares what they spend, we're simply saying it's of no interest to us and that will remain the case, because it's just not very interesting.

Nobody I know will give the Saudi league a second glance. Couldn't give less of a shit. It has no chance long term. You cannot manufacture tradition, rivalries, passion or loyalties. MLS maybe has a bit of a chance over time because of sporting culture in the US and established city rivalries...

Left at 7.30 and got here at 10.15. It was the only way to avoid all the shite.

What the fuck are sky doing scheduling Championship fixtures on a Monday night? Especially one as dull as this. Who outside of Cov and Huddersfield will give a shit? Nobody is watching this. Another matchday ruined.

Not looking forward to this. Drive down will be horrendous. Nowhere decent to get a drink and storm Betty treating us to 50mph wind gusts. Apart from that, it'll be a top away day.

It's been running for several years,.it's just very infrequent and only 2 carriages.

Don't think I've ever met a single person of a right of centre persuasion that has ever believed everyone receiving state assistance is a freeloader. Not sure these people exist outside of a handful of crazies.

What's that got to do with what I said?

Amazes me how people genuinely think that people milking the system is some sort of right wing conspiracy. I know somebody who has a free car on the motability scheme who has just booked a skiing holiday.

Have hated the place for most of its existence, but it changed at that Forest game. All went up a notch when Wasps fucked off. Now, despite still going to almost every away game, I genuinely look forward to home games more.

Not sure why you are being pulled apart on this. It seems a reasonable point, even if they don't agree on the assessment of the individual player. The same people who seem to be cheerleading price hikes that might ultimately only generate very modest increased gate revenues, are equally more...

Yep, we talking about matchday kids prices and everyone keeps deflecting to family zone season tickets. Proper fingers in the ears stuff.

I don't think it is difficult at all. Just don't charge young kids £25. No other club does. Even QPR let under 8s in free (inc. away fans). We're completely out of sync with the rest of the division on this. ST pricing is a separate discussion, but matchday pricing is very hard to defend.

The abuse thing is overstated. We had the highest kids matchday prices in the league last season for cat A games pre DK. This isn't a sudden change that Doug is looking to fix. Such a depressing take really that stinks of the modern game and makes me worry about its future. And there are...

Not sure what you are getting at. We're talking matchday pricing, for home and away fans. There are 11,000 unsold seats for every game. For Boro only 5000 of those were sold. This is at cat B pricing. Some cat A games will be lower than that. You're making out there is massive demand and pricing...

It's got nothing to do with it, the price increases from last season are proportionate to the adult increases. Our cat A kids prices were the highest in the league last season too.

This has absolutely fuck all to do with abuse of the system. How do all other clubs cope? Why are we always the outlier? For reference, our £25 price for kids, regardless of age, is the most expensive in the league. By a mile. Sunderland fans have rightly kicked off about this today. They need...

2 You do realise that had we been promoted we'd still have Gus and Vic and would have strengthened massively? McFadz and Godden wouldn't even have been playing in all probability. The idea that a promoted team isn't ready for promotion makes no sense. It's a bit of an insult to MR and AV to...

Yeah, sorry, he managed to get one yesterday.