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If you think that all referees are going to agree on what they’re able to decide with their naked eye then I have some extremely bad news for you about human error

In what universe should this ever be a “huge question” in a game as gloriously bonkers as the one we saw yesterday? This is why VAR is total shite. We’re catering to babies instead of watching the fucking game.

How is that cOnSiStENT though? What happens when one ref wants to draw a line where another one wouldn’t bother?

Tbh my real point is that if one of them is overpriced, it may not be Binks

This thread has big 5am afters-in-the-kitchen energy (understandable, appropriate)

Seen a lot of talk about how he’s supposedly being priced way beyond his value - curious to know what that price must be. If the going rate for LCBs at this level is £4.5m for Kitching then Binks may be extremely valuable indeed.

The overhaul is very straightforward - haul it all into the Thames and be done with it. Just look at the Premier League thread on this forum - just endless moaning about why VAR was used for this, but not for that. Once the toys are out of the box, you will always have people whinging that it...

Collins 7 MVE 9 MOTM Thomas 7 Latibeaudiere 5 Kitching 5 Bidwell 5 Eccles 7 Sheaf 7 O’Hare 7 Simms 8 Wright 7 Torp 8 Tavares 8 Dasilva 7 Godden 6 Hard to be objective really, obviously wasn’t watching it like a normal game. Pretty clear that Robins set us up all wrong with the 3ATB and we...

Brilliant stuff

I thought the style looked familiar! Their stuff is fantastic - great job all round from them and the club with that.

If your job is to spot marginal errors, then you’re going to find them. It’s not much more complicated than that. VAR was supposed to take the pressure off refs who were taking heat for not making the right decision in the heat of the moment 100% of the time. Seems like we forgot that things...

Blame today’s VAR operator all you like, it won’t make the situation better in the future. VAR itself is the problem - that’s where my anger is focused.

Dasilva was brilliant when he came on

No human being in the moment would call it offside A guy watching on a monitor whose job it is to slow down every play and analyse it in case someone moans about refereeing consistency may well come to a different conclusion - that’s what it comes down to. It’s not about individual bias, it’s...

If it was my livelihood then I’d be pretty fucking stupid to blatantly fix games in some team’s favour because it might make my friends/family happy for a weekend It’s the kind of irrelevant thing that fans love to fume about while huge systemic fuck-ups like VAR render the whole game pointless

I’ve been critical of him for a long time and I’m still unsure if he’s good enough for us long term, but he did himself proud today and was exactly what we needed when he came on.

No it isn’t - they’re professionals trying to do a job. Ellis Simms is from Oldham and I thought he did pretty well against Man Utd today. The problem isn’t individuals being biased, it’s a system that’s desperately trying to impose objectivity on a game of nuance, for fear of offending...

If you look hard enough, it was offside - end of story If the most important thing isn’t the flow of the game, or the drama of human error/success, but instead it’s making sure refs are consistent and never make a mistake, it’s totally understandable to want to slow the game down to the point...

Who is it benefiting? Are the games more fair? Are the fans more entertained? Are the refs more respected?

If you’re fretting about where the VAR ref from is etc you’re focusing on the wrong thing The goal was offside if you look hard enough for it - that’s almost indisputable The problem is a system that demands refs don’t make any mistakes, ever, even if it means the game itself is less entertaining