Sick Boy
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His inept tactics were largely to blame.
His inept tactics were largely to blame.No capable manager would've stayed under those conditions.
If Thorn had any integrity and or self-awareness he would've resigned at the very latest in November.
I still think we would have won at VP if Derby weren't losing. 2nil and coasting it at HT, Hadji amazing.Bristol City away at the end of that season was the worst thing I'd watched involving City up to that point. Never threatened once, lumped balls to Platt to have them skip off the rain-soaked pitch for goal kicks all game long. At least at Villa Park we had a f*cking go. This was just a team that couldn't play football showing exactly why we deserved to be relegated. Horrible.
No capable manager would've stayed under those conditions.
If Thorn had any integrity and or self-awareness he would've resigned at the very latest in November.
remember Alex Nimely - the one game wonder!
His inept tactics were largely to blame.
I don’t only blame Thorn either, no other club would have employed him as a manager, the club was a shambles at the time and it was made even worse by the idiot fans who trotted out endless excuses for him.I don't even necessarily blame Thorn. The only aspect of his tenure that truly annoys me is that he lacked self-awareness to call it a day when the time was right.
The decisions made by SISU/Dulieu over that entire season were appalling and would've put any manager in a hugely difficult position. From letting our best players all leave on frees in the summer, appointing a manager that couldn't be less qualified, giving zero backing in the window to replace those that had left and then to sell Jutkiewcz, without bringing in a suitable replacement in January.
Thorn may have taken us down in terrible fashion but to put the blame solely on him is nonsensical. As lets be honest, we would've gone down the season after anyway if we had somehow avoided relegation as more sales would've been made and cheap replacements, or none at all, inevitably brought in.
If I remember correctly G in his previous guise said Thorn was too busy ‘cashing in his pay cheque for worshipping at the temple of Sepalla’
I don’t only blame Thorn either, no other club would have employed him as a manager, the club was a shambles at the time and it was made even worse by the idiot fans who trotted out endless excuses for him.
It was clear from Leicester h 1st game. They went down to 10 and instead of taking the initiative the clown - fans favourite because he posted on social media - Carl baker got sent off. We never recovered all season
The embodiment of post-truth.The 'fans favourite' thing always seems to get pushed by people with an axe to grind about him. There were as many people giving him stick as there were that supported him, the same as with Doyle.
Baker wasn't a fans' favourite in the Championship tbf, he became one once he got to his levelThe embodiment of post-truth.
I thought he was on about Thorn; agree about Baker.Baker wasn't a fans' favourite in the Championship tbf, he became one once he got to his level
I was there too, miserable day out all round. Bad pub, crap food, poor beer, knackered old stand pre-redevelopment, got soaking wet walking to the ground in the rain across a field and through some grim underpasses. Woeful game left us set up for relegation. We needed to win and we went down like a sack of potatoes. Bank holiday Monday as well if I remember rightly.Bristol City away at the end of that season was the worst thing I'd watched involving City up to that point. Never threatened once, lumped balls to Platt to have them skip off the rain-soaked pitch for goal kicks all game long. At least at Villa Park we had a f*cking go. This was just a team that couldn't play football showing exactly why we deserved to be relegated. Horrible.
He was way out of his depth and should have resigned from September. He was a dreadful manager.What happens when you sell Turner and Juke, having allowed Westwood, Gunnar and King leave on fees - none of the 5, the spine of our team, was replaced. We were doomed from the summer and the bile that was launched at Thorn was entirely misplaced.
Think he’s a scout at West Brom.What is Thorn up to now?
I was always shocked by the degree of spite and bile he attracted from a small minority of fans - as I remember, he was a generally popular figure amongst the fanbase. A minority hated on him as a means of deflecting criticism from the owners. When he left, they did the same with Wasps, the council, etc etc. "It's everyone's fault except Sisu....."He was way out of his depth and should have resigned from September. He was a dreadful manager.
That's a weird take.I was always shocked by the degree of spite and bile he attracted from a small minority of fans - as I remember, he was a generally popular figure amongst the fanbase. A minority hated on him as a means of deflecting criticism from the owners. When he left, they did the same with Wasps, the council, etc etc. "It's everyone's fault except Sisu....."
Exactly no other club would've employed him as a manager yet our owners thought it was some kind of coup giving him a permanent contract. And what's worse tried to brainwash the fans to agree with that line of thinking.
I think that's always going to happen with fans though. It's no different to the idiots who think Biamou could still do a job for us despite him bombing out at Dundee United, or defending him to the hilt last season.
Let’s not forget we had a chairman (still have) Tim Fisher and that faggot Waggot driving the club down with their plans, pre-Northampton, it’s a wonder we are still here at all, trying to run any sort of team here with those two planks steering the club must have been a nightmare.Although Thorn was terrible I'm not so sure we would've stayed up if Robins was in charge.
The Starting XI wasn't awful but the squad on the whole had zero depth so there was no one we could bring on to help change things when we were chasing the game.
Couple that with two terrible windows, the sale of our best chance of staying up in Jutkiewicz and a complete disdain amongst the fanbase and it would've been a minor miracle if we'd stayed up, regardless of who was in charge.
A fit Willis would get into our current side - in fact a speedy centre back is what we need. His distribution was very suspect though.
Probably. Only to be sacked as a failure the following season when we struggled again, mind you.I think given that MR had our L1 relegation team playing at upper mid table form it isn't bat shit to suggest he'd have had this team putting up more of a fight than it did.
Yep, giving Thorn the job wasn't the wrong move, it was being overly loyal to him once he had it. I'd even excuse him relegation really, as the club was on a long decline and intrinsically rotten, but staying on for the next season he managed to trash any chance of us going straight back up by doing so.That’s definite revisionism here. The majority of the supporters wanted us to hire Thorn because he did well as caretaker.
In another dimension where we get relegated that season without Thorn as manager, you bet he’d have had an Eric Black type aura.
It was a short Honeymoon period and Thorn overstayed his welcome.
I dunno. Maybe on the bench. But he certainly wouldn’t get ahead of Fadz, Hyam, JCS or even wobbly Rose.
When you look back, the squad at the start of the season looked good enough to at least not get relegated.We played our last game in the Championship before relegation and ended it with a 4-0 loss at Saints, an absolute whimper of a performance under Thorn
The side that day was:
Murphy
Clarke
Willis
Cranie
Hussey
Baker
Bigi
Norwood
Thomas
McSheffrey
McDonald
It’s been quite the journey since then but glad the club are in a far better place now than our last stint in this division
That’s definite revisionism here. The majority of the supporters wanted us to hire Thorn because he did well as caretaker.
In another dimension where we get relegated that season without Thorn as manager, you bet he’d have had an Eric Black type aura.
It was a short Honeymoon period and Thorn overstayed his welcome.
Can’t compare Black to Thorn.That’s definite revisionism here. The majority of the supporters wanted us to hire Thorn because he did well as caretaker.
In another dimension where we get relegated that season without Thorn as manager, you bet he’d have had an Eric Black type aura.
It was a short Honeymoon period and Thorn overstayed his welcome.
A fit Willis would get into our current side - in fact a speedy centre back is what we need. His distribution was very suspect though.
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