That would be because the gambling tycoon wankers who own them are fans of the club and filthy rich
Our fan base needs some influence at board level and that is the overall aim of being involved. Without skin in the game this is difficult as supporters don’t risk their money at the level bsb refers to but we risk the history of our city and our club and that stands for a lot
Pretty sure I was used to ensure the narrative was changed around Sisu ccfc moving to Birmingham was completely their fault. I’m happy being used in that way cause I think it was important. Why do we have relationships with anyone? To hopefully get opportunities to influence mate. I hope I’ve done my bit with ccc wasps ccfc and Sisu and at least that’s something rather than nothing
In terms of currently the supporters forum enables a link between ccfc and supporters groups and we are part of that. Surely that’s a good thing ? No?
Mark and Tynan have an excellent relationship with many supporters and are very willing to listen and take action where they can to progress the club. We need to pull together. That’s a good thing? No?
I know I’m naive compared to many of you but if I want to talk to many of these people about concerns I have or ideas for change then I pick up the phone and ask them as I’ve built up a relationship. They all bleed they all hurt they all have desires and it would be good to think of people as people rather than monsters or angels.
I’m a people person and I think when you’re in relationship you can ask and say things you can’t when you’re not. Will I get joy to sell for lower than she wants? Maybe. Will I get her to care more for decisions she takes that affect nameless thousands by being polite and friendly and caring? Maybe not but I can try.
With respect Pete, Sepalla is a hard nosed businesswoman, I would think she does it out of courtesy and is not going to be influenced to sell the club.
Family zone/match day experience are things you can influence and worth speaking about in my opinion.
Which is irrelevant - as this fact they lost £91m (most of which is player amortisation) - so they are wankers whereas those use want 19% interest and don’t even declare who they are and what their business is are not
Makes sense
You seen the stuff from Man Utd?With respect Pete, Sepalla is a hard nosed businesswoman, I would think she does it out of courtesy and is not going to be influenced to sell the club.
Family zone/match day experience are things you can influence and worth speaking about in my opinion.
You didn’t answer the questionWell I assume Mr Boddy and co are more than willing to point to Stoke and £91 million losses - perhaps you’d like to show them the page on the accounts which shows the owners have provided interest free loans and commit to continue to do so
It’s not what people want it’s what we have.Which is irrelevant - as this fact they lost £91m (most of which is player amortisation) - so they are wankers whereas those use want 19% interest and don’t even declare who they are and what their business is are not
Makes sense
How would you know Grendel? Again I know a number of people who can maintain a professional and personal relationship with Joy. Some of the crap you parrot needs challenging to be fairWith Sepalla you either get sucked into the inner sanctum - like that idiot who ran the Consultancy Group - or spat out like the majority
There is no middle ground
I agree discussion on things like match day experience are worthwhile - beyond that it’s best to not get involved as you just end up parroting her crap back
You seen the stuff from Man Utd?
How would you know Grendel? Again I know a number of people who can maintain a professional and personal relationship with Joy. Some of the crap you parrot needs challenging to be fair
AbsolutelyHave any of these people ever managed to get her to change a point of view on anything?
You’d be great in a debating tournament. I assume that laugh means you think I’m wrong. It doesn’t matter. You’re an intelligent man do you ever allow yourself to be influenced against what you think is best? And if not why not? And if so when? She’s a fickin human being Grendel and lives life exactly like you. She just happens to hold something you and I hold dear at the moment so I understand that you don’t like some of what you see.Absolutely
You’d be great in a debating tournament. I assume that laugh means you think I’m wrong. It doesn’t matter. You’re an intelligent man do you ever allow yourself to be influenced against what you think is best? And if not why not? And if so when? She’s a fickin human being Grendel and lives life exactly like you. She just happens to hold something you and I hold dear at the moment so I understand that you don’t like some of what you see.
Once again you didn’t answer the question and duggins at ccc has many enemies as does Richardson at wasps. Comes with the territory I reckon. Do you want to try answering a question at all?I can only go on what I see
Constant moving of goalposts
Use of legal process purely as a means of distress
Enemies created everywhere
Victim culture
Yes men appointees
Negotiations always on her terms
So oddly yes that’s the conclusion I draw
Once again you didn’t answer the question and duggins at ccc has many enemies as does Richardson at wasps. Comes with the territory I reckon. Do you want to try answering a question at all?
Have any of these people ever managed to get her to change a point of view on anything?
Did she swipe left on your Tinder request or something?
Fascinating contribution
Well since you laughed off an accurate description of the difference between Stoke's owners and ours there wasn't much wiggle room. You seem to think that just because someone doesn't have a personal vendetta against Sepalla they think she's a decent owner who can do no wrong.
You've lost your objectivity on this
I’ve found him absolutely brilliant in lots of ways but he’s a genial Irishman who knows people so I’m not surprisedWhat question? Richardson does he have many enemies? Who are they?
How is it objective when you describe stokes owners as wankers as they own Bet 365? That’s objective is it? You’ve said before you have had on line gambling issues which defines your own lack of objectivity
Gambling companies are well known to make most of their profits from problem gamblers and addicts. They know this and pay lip service to the damage it causes while raking in the cash so yes that makes them wankers in my view. Haven't gambled in almost a decade now but the societal problem is generally now worse than before.
Don't try and deflect though, I'm hardly an advocate for SISU but in your eyes anyone who doesn't personally hate Seppalla thinks she can do no wrong. Stoke's owners are far wealthier and have a personal attachment to the club, there is no comparison as of course they can afford to write off substantial losses every year
I think pretty much everyone agrees that gambling companies are run by wankers. Never too easy is it as we are sponsored by oneGambling companies are well known to make most of their profits from problem gamblers and addicts. They know this and pay lip service to the damage it causes while raking in the cash so yes that makes them wankers in my view. Haven't gambled in almost a decade now but the societal problem is generally now worse than before.
Don't try and deflect though, I'm hardly an advocate for SISU but in your eyes anyone who doesn't personally hate Seppalla thinks she can do no wrong. Stoke's owners are far wealthier and have a personal attachment to the club, there is no comparison as of course they can afford to write off substantial losses every year
Not that long ago Grendull was putting down anyone saying the things he’s currently saying labelling them things like council stooges. His new found hatred of the owners is down to one thing and one thing only. His hatred of Robins. He’s now promoting what most have been saying for best part of a decade (especially the trust who he also despises) because he wants to use Robins ability to work with the owners or get the owners to work with him as a negative. So he has to make the owners a devil. Either that or Sepella changed her number so he’ll stop calling her and he’s bitter about the rejection. He’s just a bitter little man who’s only enjoyment in life is hating someone or something.You’d be great in a debating tournament. I assume that laugh means you think I’m wrong. It doesn’t matter. You’re an intelligent man do you ever allow yourself to be influenced against what you think is best? And if not why not? And if so when? She’s a fickin human being Grendel and lives life exactly like you. She just happens to hold something you and I hold dear at the moment so I understand that you don’t like some of what you see.
Im not deflecting you have zero objectivity in pretty much everything you take dogmatism to a level well beyond me and many many posters have pointed this out to you
This coming from a man who has called for Robins' head each season for the crime of being vaguely close to the owner. There is a difference between being melancholy for large parts of this season and having no objectivity on anything.
You said yourself you think you're right about everything and fuck what anyone else thinks.
Im merely pointing out what many others say about you
Yeah agreed sorry if you feel I’ve crossed a lineA few have struggled during lockdown, and whilst people can stay off forums if things are getting to them, I'd suggest people at least think twice before getting too personal with comments. Although some appear to come across as thick skinned, some things cut deep. Be nice (r), and if you are going to have a dig, try and do it without trying to stick the knife in.
A few have struggled during lockdown, and whilst people can stay off forums if things are getting to them, I'd suggest people at least think twice before getting too personal with comments. Although some appear to come across as thick skinned, some things cut deep. Be nice (r), and if you are going to have a dig, try and do it without trying to stick the knife in.
odd how the guy who likes your post is a big culprit at such activity.
I think that’s an excellent question. I don’t think an offer would be made would it?In terms of interest rates if a company with the trading history similar to the club wanted to run a debt of 7 or 8 figures from a commercial lender what sort of interest rate we would be looking at?
You are the self appointed expert
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