22 Premier League next season (4 Viewers)

rob9872 · Mar 14, 2020

Don't personally see the rush. Historically the season has been August to May, but it doesn't have to. Simply freeze, then complete when they're able to. If that means new season starts in October then so be it and mess around with rules for the new campaign when everyone starts on a level chance. No league cup, no Checkatrade etc for 1 season and there will be plenty of midweek berths available. Make a decision now to scrap the Euros all together, as no infrastructure built with it moving around venues and we could run leagues a little later too.

AFCCOVENTRY · Mar 14, 2020

Big issue is player contracts end of June. If the season isn’t completed by then (which it won’t be) then they will have to agree on final league standings just top 2 (automatic) to be promoted and no relegations. It’s unprecedented times and the only solution. On Football Focus various club owners are saying the same thing. Currently they can’t see the season finishing by the end of June.

rob9872 · Mar 14, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Big issue is player contracts end of June. If the season isn’t completed by then (which it won’t be) then they will have to agree on final league standings just drop top 2 to be promoted and no relegations. It’s unprecedented times and the only solution. On Football Focus various club owners are saying the same thing. Currently they can’t see the season finishing by the end of June.

Surely they have it within their power to extend all contratc to the season end with a complete worldwide transfer embago. It would stop the unscrupulous owners just binning off the Junior Brown's of this world and retaining only the Fanky Dabo's

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Big issue is player contracts end of June. If the season isn’t completed by then (which it won’t be) then they will have to agree on final league standings just drop top 2 to be promoted and no relegations. It’s unprecedented times and the only solution. On Football Focus various club owners are saying the same thing. Currently they can’t see the season finishing by the end of June.

Contracts tend to cease on June 1 it’s not really that much of an issue

Mucca Mad Boys · Mar 14, 2020

With so much of the season played, the most common sense solution would be to end the season with current points totals with teams promoted/relegated based off of that.

It's not ideal, but a lot fairer than just nulling and voiding the season as if it never happened. Most of the games have been played and the Top 2 and bottom 2 of all the EFL leagues are pretty much established and unlikely to change.

Too many people stand to lose out. In our league, 1st to 8th stand a chance of automatic promotion.

theferret · Mar 14, 2020

No reason why this solution could not be replicated down the leagues. Leeds & West Brom up. Us and Rotherham up (Rotherham can't be caught if games in hand played out), Crewe, Swindon and Plymouth up - League 1 is a team short anyway hence 3 auto places and none of these teams can be caught if games in hand are played out. By far the best solution IF the season can't be completed and no team gets relegated.

usskyblue · Mar 14, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
With so much of the season played, the most common sense solution would be to end the season with current points totals with teams promoted/relegated based off of that.

It's not ideal, but a lot fairer than just nulling and voiding the season as if it never happened. Most of the games have been played and the Top 2 and bottom 2 of all the EFL leagues are pretty much established and unlikely to change.

Too many people stand to lose out. In our league, 1st to 8th stand a chance of automatic promotion.

The problem with that is; teams (like Wycombe) who are outside the playoffs by 1 point but have a game in hand.

There’s too many litigation problems with voiding or ending the season now. I reckon they will delay, then play on later. They may be okay with permanently changing the new season start and finish dates.

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
With so much of the season played, the most common sense solution would be to end the season with current points totals with teams promoted/relegated based off of that.

It's not ideal, but a lot fairer than just nulling and voiding the season as if it never happened. Most of the games have been played and the Top 2 and bottom 2 of all the EFL leagues are pretty much established and unlikely to change.

Too many people stand to lose out. In our league, 1st to 8th stand a chance of automatic promotion.

Not happening

Magwitch · Mar 14, 2020

I have a feeling they will go down the no relegation route. EFL has said there will be further announcements Wednesday. I suspect things could be in the pipeline.

Magwitch · Mar 14, 2020

The chairman of Rotherham has just been on Sky and said he expects the leagues to follow what the Premiership decide to do and there’s no way they will deny Liverpool their title.

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Magwitch said:
The chairman of Rotherham has just been on Sky and said he expects the leagues to follow what the Premiership decide to do and there’s no way they will deny Liverpool their title.

I can’t think why he’s saying that

Sick Boy · Mar 14, 2020

Perhaps the top 2 going up and increasing the number of play off teams to 8? Also having playoffs to decide who is to get relegated apart from say the top team/bottom 2 teams

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Sick Boy said:
Perhaps the top 2 going up and increasing the number of play off teams to 8? Also having playoffs to decide who is to get relegated apart from say the top team/bottom 2 teams

The problem is as I understand it all the Premier League reams need to agree an action like this so relegation ceases - our only hope is that they allow the league two more places - then there will be a rebalancing through the system and they will just promote the top two through the system

Wyken Sky Blue · Mar 14, 2020

It make the most sense to me to delay the season knowing that Euro 2020 will not go ahead.

There is approximately 9 games of football left in the league which could be played within 6 weeks including midweek. Play behind closed doors and delay next season until September/October.

Cancel the League Cup and EFL Cup next season and use the midweek games to play catchup for next season.

This is fair and square.

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Although it’s slightly off topic Rugby has a real issue. It’s likely to just void the whole season and then what are they going to do with Saracans

covcity4life · Mar 14, 2020

matesx said:
Why can’t games just played BCD?

Cos players started moaning

I rhink aftee 6 weeks of being bored they players will be ready to resume and accept consequences they may contract the virus

Sick Boy · Mar 14, 2020

Liverpool set to be given Premier League title amid coronavirus chaos

A little bit clickbait but I really hope the PL and Championship don’t stitch us up.

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

covcity4life said:
Cos players started moaning

I rhink aftee 6 weeks of being bored they players will be ready to resume and accept consequences they may contract the virus

It was more because idiots would all stand outside

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Sick Boy said:
Liverpool set to be given Premier League title amid coronavirus chaos

A little bit clickbait but I really hope the PL and Championship don’t stitch us up.

I think this is the only hope as the championship is under the same voting system as the leagues below

covcity4life · Mar 14, 2020

Grendel said:
It was more because idiots would all stand outside

Govt said gatherings not an issue other than strain on public services

But thrn players complained about being forced to play

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Mar 14, 2020

there is a meeting this afternoon

Magwitch · Mar 14, 2020

A lot of this is knee jerk people like Karren Brady mouthing off tripe. got to wait until April 3rd three weeks away yet and see. Government due to announce further measures soon and further meetings by UEFA, Premier league and EFL next week.
Mean while lets sit back and enjoy being top of the league for months.

Sick Boy · Mar 14, 2020

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
there is a meeting this afternoon

Where’ve you seen that?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 14, 2020

Magwitch said:
That won’t happen it would mean the Championship operating two teams short.
From our point of view the biggest thing in our favour is Liverpool, should footie be unable to continue after April 3rd whatever decision is taken regarding how the winners of the Premiership is decided that would cascade down the pyramid. At the moment I’m comfortable with our position.
I think the no relegation option could happen if things can’t continue after April the 3rd.

IF the PL didn't have any relegated teams but they did allow promotion for a year due to teams like Leeds/WBA etc fighting them in court and expand the league, as you say it would leave Championship two short, so if anything what you'd do is increase the number of promoted teams from each league below by two (prob three from L2 to cover Bury) to maintain the numbers.

Clubs aren't going to complain not getting relegated, the teams in the promotion spots still go up and a team or two in the play-offs gets the added bonus of a promotion they weren't expecting.

There is still an issue of teams below that in the play-offs or just outside, but IMO it's fairer than just voiding a season 75% in. Had it happened around Nov then sure, but not now.

Don't think this will happen though and I still prefer the idea of just continuing when possible and any changes occurring for next season, such as cancelled cup competitions to allow more league games, or cancelling next season if it goes on well into summer.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Mar 14, 2020

Sick Boy said:
Where’ve you seen that?

It was on the news at 1

cc84cov · Mar 14, 2020

Can’t believe the government & media has got everyone so panicked over the Flu

Magwitch · Mar 14, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
IF the PL didn't have any relegated teams but they did allow promotion for a year due to teams like Leeds/WBA etc fighting them in court and expand the league, as you say it would leave Championship two short, so if anything what you'd do is increase the number of promoted teams from each league below by two (prob three from L2 to cover Bury) to maintain the numbers.

Clubs aren't going to complain not getting relegated, the teams in the promotion spots still go up and a team or two in the play-offs gets the added bonus of a promotion they weren't expecting.

There is still an issue of teams below that in the play-offs or just outside, but IMO it's fairer than just voiding a season 75% in. Had it happened around Nov then sure, but not now.

Don't think this will happen though and I still prefer the idea of just continuing when possible and any changes occurring for next season, such as cancelled cup competitions to allow more league games, or cancelling next season if it goes on well into summer.

What I can’t understand is self isolation is for 7/14 days then if virus free which most are carry on just seems football has gone down the road a few players and a manager have symptoms and it’s like the Black Death. After what will be three weeks there is nothing stopping games being played at the worse behind closed doors, not ideal but would get the remaining games out the way probably by middle of May.

Trouble with football when there are issues you have to work out other agendas managers and officials have to help their club by fair means or foul. Karren Brady as an example, relegation could bankrupt West Ham.

Otis · Mar 14, 2020

Magwitch said:
What I can’t understand is self isolation is for 7/14 days then if virus free which most are carry on just seems football has gone down the road a few players and a manager have symptoms and it’s like the Black Death. After what will be three weeks there is nothing stopping games being played at the worse behind closed doors, not ideal but would get the remaining games out the way probably by middle of May.

Trouble with football when there are issues you have to work out other agendas managers and officials have to help their club by fair means or foul. Karren Brady as an example, relegation could bankrupt West Ham.

Incubation period, and just because some have it now and will probably be rid of it in a week, there will then be other players of others teams infected after and they would then need to go into isolation too.

Footballers may be healthy , but some of the people they come into contact with are not.

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Otis said:
Incubation period, and just because some have it now and will probably be rid of it in a week, there will then be other players of others teams infected after and they would then need to go into isolation too.

Footballers may be healthy , but some of the people they come into contact with are not.

So if someone gets it in a supermarket will they close the whole shop?

Nick · Mar 14, 2020

Grendel said:
So if someone gets it in a supermarket will they close the whole shop?

I'd bet there are people walking round supermarkets as we speak who have it.

People won't be happy until it's like 28 days later and everything is closed and life changing.

Otis · Mar 14, 2020

Grendel said:
So if someone gets it in a supermarket will they close the whole shop?

Nope.

Otis · Mar 14, 2020

Nick said:
I'd bet there are people walking round supermarkets as we speak who have it.

Of course and don't even know they have got it.

Nick · Mar 14, 2020

Its strange how mass gatherings are banned but hundreds of kids together isn't it.

Grendel · Mar 14, 2020

Otis said:
Nope.

Why

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Mar 14, 2020

Grendel said:
So if someone gets it in a supermarket will they close the whole shop?

Of course it won't, but IMO having an average of say 10k people in close proximity at 45 football grounds over a weekend means around half a million people in danger of getting infected all at the same time. They might crowd in a pub afterwards, and then home, work on Monday etc, bringing hundreds of thousands if not millions more into contact in a very short space of time. That's basically a 'pox party' and will do nothing to 'flatten the curve' allowing the health service to cope with it.

Shops where you might get a few thousand per day over a bigger area will result in the infection spreading, but nowhere near as quickly as somewhere like a football game. That does help flatten the curve a little bit. Of course people panicking and flocking to the supermarket doesn't help at all.

So I can understand entirely why this measure has been brought in. If anything it may be a bit late because even last weeks games could have resulted in high transmission with people with the virus but not yet showing symptoms. But far better to do it now that even later.

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