Your maths work is up with the best
8 points will be enoughNeed 9 points to make sure
Leeds can be promoted on Monday I think.
Means their game Vs Bristol City could mean "nothing"/have less riding on it for them.... Unless they want to go up as champs!?!!
Yes, Boro look a very average side. Plus we will be at home. Think we can beat Boro if we played like we did today. Plymouth and Luton away are the matches I am a little concerned about.Pretty convinced we will need to beat Boro last game which I'm sure we can
Don't you mean if Sheffield United don't beat Burnley!?!!!?!!?That’s a pretty massive incentive and they only earn automatic promotion if Sheff U beat Burnley away when Burnley are unbeaten at home this season.
We’re in a relatively comfortable position. If we beat Plymouth, we’d have to capitulate against Luton and Boro to not make playoffs.
Boro will not want to be going into the final day needing a win/avoiding defeat which is why the bookies heavily favour us to secure a playoff berth.
We'll find out what thissquaddeck and the coaching team are made of on Mon. Huge test of character.
Yes, Boro look a very average side. Plus we will be at home. Think we can beat Boro if we played like we did today. Plymouth and Luton away are the matches I am a little concerned about.
Don't you mean if Sheffield United don't beat Burnley!?!!!?!!?
Boro and Coventry will make the playoffs.
You said they'd be promoted if Sheffield United beat Burnley.I may have mixed got things up but I’m under the impression that Sheff U need to win to prevent an automatic Leeds promotion?
That race is more or less settled in that race. With how the season has ended, I’d feel more confident v Sheff U than Burnley!
You said they'd be promoted if Sheffield United beat Burnley.
That doesn't promote Leeds
My point was Leeds being promoted on Monday then playing Bristol City the following game...
These Coventry fans are so thick aren't they.If we can squeeze 10 points from the last 3 we’ll be OK.
It's not just who teams are playing, though, it's also how teams handle the pressure.
Nobody's guaranteed anything.
Yeah and I see the Sheff Weds manager has had a right go at his players after their defeat yesterday, so they might be much more up for it against Middlesbrough on Monday.The form team of the plau off chasers Millwall spanked by a team with nothing to play for yesterday.
Agree. I don’t think we’d get past Sheff Utd over 2 legs but would fancy us in the final.MattSb is saying it might take 72 points to get 5th place. I really think getting 5th place is crucial.
You know, weirdly, I am more worried now than I was before yesterday. Go figure.
It was looking all so rosy until that last gasp winner for Middlesbrough.
So, here's my concern and the scenario I am worried about. It's that Monday might have to be a must win.
If we don't beat Plymouth and only came away with a draw and Boro won again on Monday that would put us on 67 points and them on 66.
Draw again against Luton and Boro won again, they would overtake us at that point. Them on 69 points, us on 68.
In that scenario, we would then have to beat Middlesbrough on the last day and they would only need a draw.
Therefore, I think Monday really needs to be a must win. Boro's next two games are Sheff Wed and Norwich (who inexplicably let 5 goals in at home yesterday to Portsmouth).
I really thought we were pretty much home and dry until that last gasp Boro penalty and I was also thinking that Sunderland would get something at Bristol.
Out saving grace however, might be Bristol City. Next 2 games they have Luton away and then Leeds away. They might possibly struggle to get anything out of those games
Could have really done with Derby beating Luton yesterday I feel. That would have cut Plymouth adrift and 6 points from safety, with relegation all but certain and might have made our task a little easier against them. That Luton win did Plymouth a huge favour.
Anyway, I know I am overthinking it, but I was really confident before West Brom, but now we have beaten West Brom, I am less confident.
I struggled to sleep last night, so I kept thinking about it and it was swirling
around my head on how it could all go wrong.
The scenario we need, is to be already confirmed as in the playoffs when it comes to play Boro, or that we only need a draw against Boro to secure our place.
I do think we need to beat Plymouth. Luton could prove to be our hardest fixture. They were maybe a little lucky to come away with a draw from the Derby game, but their defence was magnificent.
Not sure who to root for in the Luton v Bristol match. Luton win and it hurts Bristol. But if Bristol win, Luton could again look like certainties to go down.
I do actually think Luton will get something out of that game.
I am thinking, forgetting about Boro for a second, if we win on Monday and Luton beat Bristol, we go above Bristol and that then leaves the next confrontations as, us vs Luton and Bristol away at Leeds. A draw then might just be mighty fine for us and pull us clearer of Bristol.
Anyway, the conclusion of all this brain dump is, my brain is now exhausted and has turned to a big mush of jelly.
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Leeds might be promoted on mondayBristol won't get anything at Leeds surely
Weve got to try and get 5th. Would much rather have Sunderland that Shef Utd in the semi and speaking to Sunderland fans the one team they dont want is us.Agree. I don’t think we’d get past Sheff Utd over 2 legs but would fancy us in the final.
We're obviously in a strong position, but that late Boro goal has made it very tight. We effectively have a 2 point cushion owing to GD, with 2 exceptionally tough away games to come. Plymouth will throw everything at it Monday. Lose and we could find ourselves outside the top 6 in a couple of days. Aware I am stating the obvious, but there is a long way to go here. Would hate to lose the next two and have nothing to play for against Boro. Unlikely but possible. Would take a point Monday in a heartbeat.
I'm with you, first of all a point to ensure we have something to play for last game
I am hoping so but their recent form is awful, they haven’t won a game for ages. Stoke only 3 points behind them now.Yeah and I see the Sheff Weds manager has had a right go at his players after their defeat yesterday, so they might be much more up for it against Middlesbrough on Monday.
A win and a draw is the same as 2 wins in our next 2 games where Middlesbrough are concerned if they win both their games. We would either be 1 point or 3 points ahead of them. They would have to beat us at our place whatever.2 more wins, no more no less.
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