skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Fortunately for them what they do have is ground capacities that supports their ambition. Car parking revenue not so important then.
It's not just old grounds. Not much in the way of parking at the Emirates or St Marys for example.
Held on to the Ricoh - a great successful business remember - and waited until SISU left which one day they will. There was no need to give an out of town franchise a 250 year lease.In view of Sisu stance what would you have done ?
But what about screwing sisu over? That's what we all want. Our official fans spokeswoman ann said so.
But, something must have happened to turn Mutton and Ann Lucas against SISU.
When SISU arrived, Mutton and Ann Lucas were city fans. We were in the Championship renting a stadium ( at a high price ) with "365 days a year" income potential. We had an option to buy into it. The stadium has a capacity for premiere league games. Car parks, no local residents, planning permission for more leisure developments and is in Coventry with good transport links. Everything TF is looking for. I don't blame Joy for what happened in the beginning- I believe her when she says she didn't know she had a soccer club in her portfolio. But, something must have happened to turn Mutton and Ann Lucas against SISU. I certainly don't accept that CCC just decided to screw SISU over on a whim. Yes, we are seeing CCC's "dirty washing", but it would be great if SISU had to hand over the protocols of their discussions- possibly about screwing CCC over - but they don't have to, and will never voluntarily hand them over. So, enjoy the mud slinging, but remember that nothing happens without a cause.
I think it was personal differences rather than frustration around political procedures. The whole war on joy in the emails must of stemmed from a personal clash? You wouldn't go after someone solely because they didn't agree with your procedures at work?
So what you mean is, the council have done things wrong but only because SISU did something first but you don't know what?
SISU were the council's preferred bidder weren't they because of the stadium, other parties who wanted the stadium didn't seem to favourable at the time.
The council didn't want SISU either. The bid was considered 'derisory' by the council leader at the time.
Who was the leader then?
Did they have no say over the bidders at that time?
Mr McGuigan said that deal would have cost the council £4million of taxpayers' money and left the Alan Edward Higgs charity £2.5million out of pocket.
The deal on offer to SISU has never been taken up by any group and, as seen in the link above, anybody wanting the ground has always wanted a longer lease to go with it.
Which, as it turns out, was possible for a "small" consideration- which as far as we know, Joy didn't offer. Was not offered, but up to her to ask for imo.
It only turned out to be on offer *after* all the shenanigans however, not *before*?
The council didn't want SISU either. The bid was considered 'derisory' by the council leader at the time.
Its funny how their stance changed, as when Robinson/Elliott et al nearly took us to the precipice and had to find a new owner, the Council vetoed another bidder in favor of their prefrerred one, SISU.
People seem to overlook that one of the reasons SISU are with us, is that the Council chose them above the others.
Yes, but TF and Joy were responsible for the "shenanigans" that pushed the lease extension from 125 years ( mentioned before Wasps ) to 250 for Wasps.
would it have been better for Joy to offer to come to Coventry, meet Mutton and Ann out of council offices ( with a council officer as witness )? Do a tour of Cov and then go to a restaurant for informal talks as to what needed to be done to improve relations between CCC and her company - which were damaged originally by her employees and not by her?
What actually happened is that ML said that Ann should get on the train and come to Joy's office - a bit like a schoolboy reporting to headmaster's study. Like it or not, Ann Lucas represents over 300000 people, you don't treat her like that ( regardless of what you may think of her ).
Not denied, but emphasises how badly the relationship managed to collapse. I hold Dulux responsible for a lot of this. He not only ruined it for us and CCFC, but screwed up Joy's SISU business in the process. Her investors wouldn't be too pleased if they got to judge Dulux' record at CCFC.
Held on to the Ricoh - a great successful business remember - and waited until SISU left which one day they will. There was no need to give an out of town franchise a 250 year lease.
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It was/is all about egos. Not remember ann saying her day was yesterday when the wasps deal was announced. I believe ann was jealous of joy. Jealous of what she had achieved and how successful she was. That she had worked just as hard but didn't have the reputation nor wealth that joy had. Screwing sisu over was her way of proving a point. Who to? I don't know. Just my opinion.
The Ricoh on a low rent is still the best option for the foreseeable future. Not Perfect, but have heard no better Plan up til now. People accept "365 days Revenue" but never ask what it is or how much Rent we pay to the propco for the 365 days of potential revenue bringers, or even give a date when the Revenue starts to flow.
SISU would have done exactly what wasps have done and mortgaged it. The very same thing people wrote to their local councillors begging the Ricoh not to be sold to SISU for that reason. From the CC ratepayers view, it's still very much wait and see. They have been here a year, not long enough to judge. Sterling work though Italia. You keep at it with that sweeping. Some people will listen. Just a shame it's the uneducated ones.
In view of Sisu stance what would you have done ?
Not according to my inbox.
And can you stop this upped the Ricoh profile thing. We are talking about the same Ricoh that held the Olympics, staged European rugby matches and England U21 internationals. The same arena who has hosted Coldplay, Take That, Oasis, Bon Jovi and Red Hot Chilli Peppers. It was hardly unheard of!
CCC made the decision in the end didn't they? for how long can you keep saying "yes but they only did this because SISU did x or y" before you finally get to the point where you think they were both being dodgy.
How do you treat people? Do you carry out PR attacks on them?
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