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dongonzalos · Jan 9, 2014

So it is almost 6 months to the day since the FL agreed the ground share.

From what I can ascertain in that time SISU identified a site in Exhall

They contacted Nuneaton and Bedworth. Who claim the contact was very speculative. They have then never been in touch again since.

They have showed us a photo a what a football stadium looks like.

The have arranged a forum to listen to fans opinions.

They have ignored an offer of rent free followed by low rent at the Ricoh.

Do you think this is what the FL expected to see in terms of progress after 6 months.

For me I expected them to have identified two sites spoke to both councils then bid for each site. As long as the talks with the councils were positive.

I would have expected them to complete the purchase by the summer.

Then next January I would have expected to see the land start to be prepared.

First building structures starting the following summer.

Then 2016-17 season should be in the new stadium at some point during that season.

What were other people expecting?

chiefdave · Jan 9, 2014

By now I would expect the sites to be at least known to us, possibly purchased, and plans available for us to see. We're nowhere near that. In fact we're not very far on from where we were when Fisher said months ago at the fans forums that we'd have all the info in a couple of weeks.

AJB1983 · Jan 9, 2014

Take everything that comes out of fishers or labovitchs mouths as a pinch of salt and you can't go far wrong.
They only went thru with the ground share because that 'threat' didn't work, they left it too late and they had to save face. If you know what I mean

dongonzalos · Jan 9, 2014

chiefdave said:
By now I would expect the sites to be at least known to us, possibly purchased, and plans available for us to see. We're nowhere near that. In fact we're not very far on from where we were when Fisher said months ago at the fans forums that we'd have all the info in a couple of weeks.

Am I imagining it or did he say they had bid for a couple of sites and were the favoured bidders?

If they only spoke to Nuneaton would that mean both sites are there?

chiefdave · Jan 9, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Am I imagining it or did he say they had bid for a couple of sites and were the favoured bidders?

If they only spoke to Nuneaton would that mean both sites are there?

Not sure if that was directly from Fisher / Labovich or one of the CT articles but it's certainly been put out there that they were preferred bidders.

torchomatic · Jan 9, 2014

I was expecting paragraphs. I was disappointed.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Jan 9, 2014

To be honest, exactly what's happened. The rent dispute didn't make sense, and everything thereafter has followed a doomsday prediction many of us made at the time, and have regurgitated since 'til I'm sick to argue any more. It gives me no great pride in pulling the I-told-you-so line out of the hat, as I've been spouting it since Grendel, the GMK board and their delusional sycophants were on about an 'average League One rent', and other such irrelevancies. As have many others with a 'skill' in seeing the bleeding obvious.

The end game was, and remains the same. Just think about why SISU would be pursuing a costly legal Judicial Review, the centre of which is a venue they've 'moved on' from; and if you can't work out the rest, then you're stupid enough to deserve to travel 34 miles to see your 'local' team

dongonzalos · Jan 9, 2014

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
To be honest, exactly what's happened. The rent dispute didn't make sense, and everything thereafter has followed a doomsday prediction many of us made at the time, and have regurgitated since 'til I'm sick to argue any more. It gives me no great pride in pulling the I-told-you-so line out of the hat, as I've been spouting it since Grendel, the GMK board and their delusional sycophants were on about an 'average League One rent', and other such irrelevancies. As have many others with a 'skill' in seeing the bleeding obvious.

The end game was, and remains the same. Just think about why SISU would be pursuing a costly legal Judicial Review, the centre of which is a venue they've 'moved on' from; and if you can't work out the rest, then you're stupid enough to deserve to travel 34 miles to see your 'local' team

Unfortunately I have to agree with you on that one. When people sang the praises of SISU for taking ruthless action. It was pointed out that when the ruthless action screws over the fans, those same people will be non too pleased.

torchomatic · Jan 9, 2014

Seriously though, Dongo. Can't really argue with any of that.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Jan 9, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Unfortunately I have to agree with you on that one. When people sang the praises of SISU for taking ruthless action. It was pointed out that when the ruthless action screws over the fans, those same people will be non too pleased.

When you dance with the devil, you have to pay the piper.

As above, I'm tired with debating with some folk. They'll get the club their stupidity deserves, as the cliche above warns

Grendel · Jan 9, 2014

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
To be honest, exactly what's happened. The rent dispute didn't make sense, and everything thereafter has followed a doomsday prediction many of us made at the time, and have regurgitated since 'til I'm sick to argue any more. It gives me no great pride in pulling the I-told-you-so line out of the hat, as I've been spouting it since Grendel, the GMK board and their delusional sycophants were on about an 'average League One rent', and other such irrelevancies. As have many others with a 'skill' in seeing the bleeding obvious.

The end game was, and remains the same. Just think about why SISU would be pursuing a costly legal Judicial Review, the centre of which is a venue they've 'moved on' from; and if you can't work out the rest, then you're stupid enough to deserve to travel 34 miles to see your 'local' team

Of course the rental arrangement is a key factor. The rental arrangements is what plunged the last regime into bankruptcy and has ultimately led to the current fiasco. That and the petulant, spiteful rejection of the CVA.

The football league are legally not able to insist a return to the Ricoh so what's likely to happen is no club out all.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Jan 9, 2014

Grendel said:
Of course the rental arrangement is a key factor. The rental arrangements is what plunged the last regime into bankruptcy and has ultimately led to the current fiasco. That and the petulant, spiteful rejection of the CVA.

The football league are legally not able to insist a return to the Ricoh so what's likely to happen is no club out all.

Your petulant, pigletty refusal to accept you were, and remain profoundly wrong; and have danced around this pantomime quoting the insane and the erroneous is an issue that worries and amuses me in equal measure.

You are the keyboard equivalent of The Black Knight, in Monty Python and the Holy Grail

turlykerd · Jan 9, 2014

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Your petulant, pigletty refusal to accept you were, and remain profoundly wrong; and have danced around this pantomime quoting the insane and the erroneous is an issue that worries and amuses me in equal measure.

You are the keyboard equivalent of The Black Knight, in Monty Python and the Holy Grail

NI.

Sky Blue Pete · Jan 9, 2014

Football league have no intention of ordering sisu back to Coventry. They will do whatever it takes to allow the club to continue wherever that may be

DaleM · Jan 9, 2014

Grendel said:
Of course the rental arrangement is a key factor. The rental arrangements is what plunged the last regime into bankruptcy and has ultimately led to the current fiasco. That and the petulant, spiteful rejection of the CVA.

The football league are legally not able to insist a return to the Ricoh so what's likely to happen is no club out all.

Here's me thinking the reason the last regime got in the shit were the wages they were paying themselves,mediocre players and shit managers.

The amount of money CCFC wasted in the past on shit players and managers would have covered the rent for many years.

This lot are no better , they have employed some shit too. I still maintain the rent was not an issue. The "management fees" paid to themselves were higher. They are using it as an excuse to get it all for next to fuckall and when they do you wont see them for dust.

If you could see past the end of your nose, or even do basic arithmetic, you should see this.

Moff · Jan 9, 2014

dongonzalos said:
What were other people expecting?

Bugger all apart from petty posturing and arguments......I wasn't disappointed:facepalm:.

fernandopartridge · Jan 9, 2014

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
You are the keyboard equivalent of The Black Knight, in Monty Python and the Holy Grail

That has raised a smile.

Tis but a scratch

Captain Dart · Jan 9, 2014

I expected delay, and nothing definite about a new stadium all hidden under the guise of commercial confidentiality.. meanwhile there will be litigation and additional debts loaded onto the club.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Jan 9, 2014

fernandopartridge said:
That has raised a smile.

Tis but a scratch

No man shall pass!!

wingy · Jan 9, 2014

I'm going Off topic ,but they must think they've cracked It,as the email ive had today Is asking for £18 for me to attend on Sunday .

By the way ,are they still advertising games in the CT??

shmmeee · Jan 9, 2014

Grendel said:
Of course the rental arrangement is a key factor. The rental arrangements is what plunged the last regime into bankruptcy and has ultimately led to the current fiasco. That and the petulant, spiteful rejection of the CVA.

The football league are legally not able to insist a return to the Ricoh so what's likely to happen is no club out all.

Fuck me, we accumulated £60m of rent arrears in one year of paying rent at the Ricoh (first season was free)?

Edit: on second reading I'm confused, do you mean McGinnity/Richardson/Et al rather than pre-Otium?

TheRoyalScam · Jan 9, 2014

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
No man shall pass!!

Oh, oh, I see, running away, 'eh? ... You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you.... I'll bite your legs off!

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jan 9, 2014

I've had worse

Rusty Trombone · Jan 9, 2014

Grendel said:
Of course the rental arrangement is a key factor. The rental arrangements is what plunged the last regime into bankruptcy and has ultimately led to the current fiasco. That and the petulant, spiteful rejection of the CVA.

The football league are legally not able to insist a return to the Ricoh so what's likely to happen is no club out all.

If we take the view that all you say here is completely correct, and a completely unacceptable way to treat your customer/tenant, basically that ACL have done a bad thing, then what? We have to move forward, what do you think should happen now? One idea would be to take up ACL on the rent free (albeit with some match day costs), with low rent for the next two years, do you think SISU should accept the deal? Obviously they will have to accept that they are working with the ACL bad guys, but think of all the money they could make (figures to be confirmed by RFC).

skybluefred · Jan 9, 2014

Rusty Trombone said:
If we take the view that all you say here is completely correct, and a completely unacceptable way to treat your customer/tenant, basically that ACL have done a bad thing, then what? We have to move forward, what do you think should happen now? One idea would be to take up ACL on the rent free (albeit with some match day costs), with low rent for the next two years, do you think SISU should accept the deal? Obviously they will have to accept that they are working with the ACL bad guys, but think of all the money they could make (figures to be confirmed by RFC).

I hope you are still a young man, because to get anything constructive from RFC is likely yo take years.

Rusty Trombone · Jan 9, 2014

skybluefred said:
I hope you are still a young man, because to get anything constructive from RFC is likely yo take years.

I'll give him 3-5 years to get the figures sorted, otherwise I'll move on to plan B (which is actually the same as plan A). LOL PUSB etc.

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