A blessing in disguise? (1 Viewer)

[Cobi Jones's Dreads]

Afternoon chaps!

Whilst I'm as annoyed as everyone else at today's debacle, could this not be a blessing in disguise for our club in the long run? My theory is if we would have won the last three games under Shaw's reign he would have been justifiably appointment as our manager. Now come the end of the season we would have most probably be loitering around 13th Shaw would have got the sack and we would be back to square one. At least today proved Shaw isn't the man (tough solely he isn't to blame the players need to take a long hard look at themselves to see if they are up for this challenge) and he has pretty much ruled himself out of the job!

Now this will mean SISU will have to think a little harder and get the right man if the job and not the easy option as they've opted to recently. My personal choice would be Wise but who knows who these buffoons will appoint. Whoever it is has by backing and I wish them all the luck as they are going to need it with the desire of some of our players. Hence my reason to pick Wise as proved as a player and at his time here before he wont stand for no shit and these half arsed challenges going in across the park.

Anyway time will tell, but I think in the long run we might have got lucky!

PUSB

 

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[Otis]

I have been wondering if the board had been holding on in the hope that Shaw would have a good run like Thorn did and make the decision easy for themselves, with fans probably being onboard as a result.

 

[ajsccfc]

This is basically the hope I'm clinging to. Bury was bad enough, but today... I really have no preference over what kind of manager we get now. I just want something, anything to happen for the better.

 

[Sick Boy]

Even with a new manager, it is unlikely we will achieve anything other then mid-table.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

A spectacular series of victories for Shaw would have told us no more about his managerial ability than what has actually happened. Way too early to assess him, but I don't think anybody seriously thinks he was ever a candidate.

 

[blueflint]

Even with a new manager, it is unlikely we will achieve anything other then mid-table.

why mid table we may not win again with this bunch of clowns

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Yes I think they were definitely hoping Shaw would string together some results to make it an easy appointment for them

I thought the idea of getting rid of Thorn early was so we didn't get cut adrift yet they are prepared to leave someone in charge who is doing worse for 4 games and counting now with the news these interviews could take 2 weeks!

I would rather they had just left Thorn in charge and went behind his back to bring in an immediate replacement if they wanted rid

Effing joke

 

[Marty]

I don't understand why people want us to rush into appointing someone. I'd much prefer they spend a month/6 weeks trying to find the right person then just going, yeah he'll do, before he ends up being sacked 12 months later. It's vital the right man is appointed and we need to take our time in finding them.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

I don't understand why people want us to rush into appointing someone. I'd much prefer they spend a month/6 weeks trying to find the right person then just going, yeah he'll do, before he ends up being sacked 12 months later. It's vital the right man is appointed and we need to take our time in finding them.

I agree but it has been 2 weeks after the sacking and we have only just drew up our short list of people to replace him

That isn't making sure we get the right man, that is just taking the piss

 

[ajsccfc]

Two weeks is nothing at all. Unless they had a specific person in mind ahead of time, to hire one man out of an apparent 65 applicants would be an incredible rush job.

Now they're saying they've got a proper shortlist to be interviewed, a decision really ought to be made by the Shrewsbury game.

 

[JulianDarbyFTW]

Most job vacancies take weeks to fill. Football is fairly unique in that appointments are rushed due to the need for a 'leader'. I would argue that if the backroom staff are unable to lead or motivate - as has been suggested by displays / lack of desire shown to date - then there are more inherent problems than the lack of a manager.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Two weeks is nothing at all. Unless they had a specific person in mind ahead of time, to hire one man out of an apparent 65 applicants would be an incredible rush job.

Now they're saying they've got a proper shortlist to be interviewed, a decision really ought to be made by the Shrewsbury game.

But if an applicant applied early on who they knew would make there shortlist wouldn't have been in the clubs interest to interview that person has soon as possible

I would imagine all people seriously interested in the post would have had applied early on anyway. Weren't we told 40 people had applied within the first 2 days or so, so I am guessing maybe 2/3 of the shortlist came from these applicants so 2 weeks does seem like a while to me

 

[Up North Sky Blue]

Afternoon chaps!

Whilst I'm as annoyed as everyone else at today's debacle, could this not be a blessing in disguise for our club in the long run? My theory is if we would have won the last three games under Shaw's reign he would have been justifiably appointment as our manager. Now come the end of the season we would have most probably be loitering around 13th Shaw would have got the sack and we would be back to square one. At least today proved Shaw isn't the man (tough solely he isn't to blame the players need to take a long hard look at themselves to see if they are up for this challenge) and he has pretty much ruled himself out of the job!

Now this will mean SISU will have to think a little harder and get the right man if the job and not the easy option as they've opted to recently. My personal choice would be Wise but who knows who these buffoons will appoint. Whoever it is has by backing and I wish them all the luck as they are going to need it with the desire of some of our players. Hence my reason to pick Wise as proved as a player and at his time here before he wont stand for no shit and these half arsed challenges going in across the park.

Anyway time will tell, but I think in the long run we might have got lucky!

PUSB

Agree 100%, this is the time of season to struggle, plenty of time for the NEW manager to cement his ideas.

 

[ajsccfc]

But that'd still be 40 applicants to sift through in two weeks, which is a lot.

 

[dadgad]

I have been wondering if the board had been holding on in the hope that Shaw would have a good run like Thorn did and make the decision easy for themselves, with fans probably being onboard as a result.

Said the same thing several days ago.

Sisu haven't a scooby.....their big hope - that it would be another INTERNAL appointment, saving them money - has failed.

 

[italiahorse]

I don't understand how an interview will help unless its seeing who will except the lowest wage.
What a manager can do is already known from their record. I'd like to see someone kick ass if its not happening.
Carsley kept waving people to go forward and was clearly ignored. I'd be spitting teeth after the first request. Shaw ??
We need a manager who can change tactics.
Again we play a reasonable first half then the other manager makes the changes to nullify us and we carry on doing the same thing.

 

[1nilandwe...]

Most job vacancies take weeks to fill. Football is fairly unique in that appointments are rushed due to the need for a 'leader'. I would argue that if the backroom staff are unable to lead or motivate - as has been suggested by displays / lack of desire shown to date - then there are more inherent problems than the lack of a manager.

True fact.

My boss's vacancy took over a year to fill and we sill appointed an absolute muppet.
We are a League 1 club on a huge downward spiral. Nobody with any decent credentials is going to come to us. We have to accept that we are an average League 1 club, with average league 1 players playing in a 1/4 filled stadium in front of a completely dissatisfied fan-base.
We are not going to get a proven, top-draw manager. We are going to get a gamble.
We are not going to sign any top players. We may sign some gambles.
We are not going to run over the league. We're going to struggle against sides who are more galvanised and motivated than we are.
We're in big trouble, and there isn't going to be a quick fix for it. We're going to have to suck it up and deal with it for a while.