A Date Apparantley Set (1 Viewer)

TrueSkyBlueLiam · Mar 14, 2013

Apparrently, the Admin hearin in London will take place on 22nd March, which should mean that we will get a points penalty this season, which leaves us in the clear to go for it next year. Hasnt bene confirmed yet but im hearing that isnt on that date. Does anything have an opinion on wheather the application for Admin by ACL will be succesful? I think it will as SISU have been neglectful to us for years and ACL will of course bring all the dirt they have on SISU to the hearing

oldskyblue58 · Mar 14, 2013

only means this season if the judge rules that CCFC should be in administration before 28th March...... that is not certain yet

torchomatic · Mar 14, 2013

Points deduction this season? I wouldn't bet on it, Liam.

SkyBlueRuffian · Mar 14, 2013

SISU are being forced out, so the sooner the better.

Skyblue4u · Mar 14, 2013

Can't we just liquidate joy, fisher and the rest of the board? Bit messy but would make a quality thick shake

mark82 · Mar 14, 2013

SISU being neglectful to CCFC would be irrelevant. They are not applying to put SISU into admin. They are putting CCFC into admin.

TrueSkyBlueLiam · Mar 14, 2013

Its been confirmed. The Admin meeting will be held on 22nd March

Stafford_SkBlue · Mar 14, 2013

Day before playing Portsmouth, how appropriate.

deanocity3 · Mar 14, 2013

hope the judge ain't a villa fan

Paxman II · Mar 14, 2013

Apparently even if the hearing results in admin the football league must convene and that was stated somewhere will not be before the close season. So ACL will have got that wrong. Likely we get more points deducted at the start of next season.

It's a punishment from the league and as such must reflect that and not be overly zealous. For example if we make the playoffs but then get deducted 10 points that would be a double punishment. If we were midtable and they took 10 points from us and we were still safe then has there been any punishment?

So not as clear cut as you think and why the elegaue will convene to decide what punishment and when it takes place leaving the likely outcome being next season which may be 20 points. That could be starting in the championship! Will it be 20 points? I think unlikely.

....still think there is more to come from both sides next week so strap yourself in for the ride!

Paxman II · Mar 14, 2013

oh and you don't think SISU (whichever comapny it concerns at least) would not appeal the leagues decision and take that to court? The precedent for points deductions is not exactly all too clear in a legal sense. certainly challengable. New precedents may have to be set.

BurbageSkyBlues · Mar 14, 2013

One point to consider, if fairness were to be applied for gauging the punishment......

The club has made best endeavours to reduce the losses, it isn't in the same league as Portsmouth when it comes to throwing money down the drain. Maybe the points deduction will reflect this effort at managing the losses.

Deleted member 4439 · Mar 14, 2013

Paxman II said:
Apparently even if the hearing results in admin the football league must convene and that was stated somewhere will not be before the close season. So ACL will have got that wrong. Likely we get more points deducted at the start of next season.

It's a punishment from the league and as such must reflect that and not be overly zealous. For example if we make the playoffs but then get deducted 10 points that would be a double punishment. If we were midtable and they took 10 points from us and we were still safe then has there been any punishment?

So not as clear cut as you think and why the elegaue will convene to decide what punishment and when it takes place leaving the likely outcome being next season which may be 20 points. That could be starting in the championship! Will it be 20 points? I think unlikely.

....still think there is more to come from both sides next week so strap yourself in for the ride!

Surely the regs are the regs: this is not a case of an arbitrary figure for points deduction. If we go into admin before Match 28th it's a 10 pt reduction this year.

http://www.football-league.co.uk/reg...293633_2125717 - see 12.3.3., 12.3.4.

Baginton · Mar 14, 2013

This wil drag on and on like Portsmouths, theyve had several court hearings postponed, dont expect anything to happen anytime soon.

they drag these things out better then the soaps zzz#

Jack Griffin · Mar 14, 2013

The FL may have to convene but the regs are based on the date of 'insolvency events', ie when the court makes a ruling

Grendel · Mar 14, 2013

Jack Griffin said:
The FL may have to convene but the regs are based on the date of 'insolvency events', ie when the court makes a ruling

Not in the case of Southamptons I think you may find.....

motherfunky · Mar 14, 2013

deanocity3 said:
hope the judge ain't a villa fan

Doesn't matter, we are not rivals to villa, they couldn't care less bout us

Macca · Mar 14, 2013

I hope the points go this season. Only a fool would hope it's next season just to back up their argument

Paxman II · Mar 15, 2013

Read the regs carefully. You will find all sorts of caveates. That's why they must convene at their earliest date...certainly won't be in time for this season.

Of course it's my understanding.

Jcap · Mar 15, 2013

I have to say I find it odd that ACL say they're acting in clubs best interest when if judge rules in their favour before FL deadline then we get 10 pt deduction even though we can still make play offs. This alone will completely rule out possibility of promotion. Not that I believe anything that comes out of SISU / ACL / CCC anymore!

Jim · Mar 15, 2013

Jcap said:
I have to say I find it odd that ACL say they're acting in clubs best interest when if judge rules in their favour before FL deadline then we get 10 pt deduction even though we can still make play offs. This alone will completely rule out possibility of promotion. Not that I believe anything that comes out of SISU / ACL / CCC anymore!

As opposed to having the club liquidated? I know which option I prefer.

This is a short term punishment that will allow long term improvement.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 15, 2013

Jim said:
As opposed to having the club liquidated? I know which option I prefer.

This is a short term punishment that will allow long term improvement.

The only change I would suggest to that is 'possible' long term improvement!

Won't be clean but with the current impasse between the parties and sisu's belligerence the alternatives are worse

percy · Mar 15, 2013

Jcap said:
I have to say I find it odd that ACL say they're acting in clubs best interest when if judge rules in their favour before FL deadline then we get 10 pt deduction even though we can still make play offs. This alone will completely rule out possibility of promotion. Not that I believe anything that comes out of SISU / ACL / CCC anymore!

see what your saying but if we did go up this season it would be a massive task next season. trying to stay up with a minus 10. i think we need to do it now

Jcap · Mar 15, 2013

Jim said:
As opposed to having the club liquidated? I know which option I prefer.

This is a short term punishment that will allow long term improvement.

But it's all hearsay. Fisher said this. Labovitch said that. Seriously am disillusioned with whole thing. As I said I don't believe any of them any more. They're all got their own agenda. Us fans the only losers here.

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