Well we praise Steven Pressley and he's a Sisu employee
TBH I think the only people that need questioning are those that claim special knowledge of the situation. Everyone else can be debated on an even playing field, some on here (mostly from the pro-Sisu side TBH) play a lot of the "You'll find out" "Wait till it all comes out" which is impossible to actually discuss (which I guess is the point).
Ian, I'm struggling to keep up with different threads so apologies if I'm off the mark but you appear to have a good knowledge of what's going on. I posted what I see as 4 key questions in a thread called fao... Are you able to answer any of them? Also (Nick will tell me off for asking this), but people like PWKH and Simon Gilbert come on here and are open about who they are. If you are criciticising them would it perhaps be polite for you to explain who you are too? Just a thought
Michael
I did see your thread and your questions but I am not able to answer them. If I could I would happily do so.
As for your other questions, you have highlighted perfectly my some of my frustrations. I am just a normal fan. I have a season ticket. I don't travel generally to away games as I have a young family and due to my job. I am not affiliated to any organisation, protest group or any other siginificant part of this dispute. I'm not even a member of SBT. But the assumption that I must be some kind of plant, employee or some kind of important person fishing for info, implies that any regular fan is only afforded the luxury of certain information.
Everything I know I have found for myself. I have taken the time to read, investigate and find out as many facts as possible. There is still more I want to know, but simply I was not satisfied with the information presented by just the CET, or other 'impartial' parties involved. Now if I can do it, there are plenty of others that can too. Why are the people involved with fans group or campaign not actively encouraging ALL fans to find out as much as they can...? to make a considered opinion.
Fans on this forum generally are far better informed than the general population of CCFC fans. That general population are too reliant on what CET tells them, and we all know that this does not give a full picture of the dispute.
As for being critical of people like Simon and PWKH, just because they come on here and say 'look i'm so and so - don't you know I'm important in this dispute' does that mean they are beyond criticism? If you put yourself out in the media - expect to be criticised and scrutinised. It's the nature of the beast.
I have been critical of Simon Gilbert... I'm not going to apologise for that. I don't think he gives the fans the true picture of what is going on. Les tried to.. and he's disappeared off the planet.
I want to find out everything I can. If I find out more information I intend on sharing it. It would be brilliant if we could get more people to do the same.
Michael
I did see your thread and your questions but I am not able to answer them. If I could I would happily do so.
As for your other questions, you have highlighted perfectly my some of my frustrations. I am just a normal fan. I have a season ticket. I don't travel generally to away games as I have a young family and due to my job. I am not affiliated to any organisation, protest group or any other siginificant part of this dispute. I'm not even a member of SBT. But the assumption that I must be some kind of plant, employee or some kind of important person fishing for info, implies that any regular fan is only afforded the luxury of certain information.
Everything I know I have found for myself. I have taken the time to read, investigate and find out as many facts as possible. There is still more I want to know, but simply I was not satisfied with the information presented by just the CET, or other 'impartial' parties involved. Now if I can do it, there are plenty of others that can too. Why are the people involved with fans group or campaign not actively encouraging ALL fans to find out as much as they can...? to make a considered opinion.
Fans on this forum generally are far better informed than the general population of CCFC fans. That general population are too reliant on what CET tells them, and we all know that this does not give a full picture of the dispute.
As for being critical of people like Simon and PWKH, just because they come on here and say 'look i'm so and so - don't you know I'm important in this dispute' does that mean they are beyond criticism? If you put yourself out in the media - expect to be criticised and scrutinised. It's the nature of the beast.
I have been critical of Simon Gilbert... I'm not going to apologise for that. I don't think he gives the fans the true picture of what is going on. Les tried to.. and he's disappeared off the planet.
I want to find out everything I can. If I find out more information I intend on sharing it. It would be brilliant if we could get more people to do the same.
I have been critical of Simon Gilbert... I'm not going to apologise for that. I don't think he gives the fans the true picture of what is going on. Les tried to.. and he's disappeared off the planet.
What exactly isn't Simon telling us?
I'm sure he is telling you all you want to hear so don't worry about it.
Could maybe ask Simon why it isn't being done then?
I will save that judgement till he gets an interview with Joy and see if he wastes it
I doubt he'll ever get an interview. He's not as "close" to the club as Reid.
That was so disappointing. She may as well have asked herself the questions
To be fair Simon Gilbert ran the story about the scam so obvious it may as well have had 100 foot tall neon lights flashing the word "SCAM" on it, whilst repeating at maximum voume through huge speakers "THIS IS A SCAM ".
God knows what Joy Seppalla would do to him, or anybody from the council/ACL for that matter.
so has PWKH actually responded yet!!!??? I havent been arsed to read through 37 pages of arguements!
He responded saying he can't respond.
Of course he can't - he can only be selective in his responses. Shouldn't you be pressing him - after all you like answers to questions don't you?
To be fair didn't someone fairly recently out shhmee who is only the relative of someone who is more involved in this and haven't there been some fairly unsubtle posts about OSB's 'agenda'?
Really...what have people been saying about OSBs posts?
ACL employee, ACL plant, etc. etc. the usual.
The little bu*ger!
Just kidding...to be fair to the accusers, we all could be plants (unless known to other people)!
So... did we ever get to the bottom of that £7.7m?
I'm not wading through the crap to find out.
The bit about Simon might not be him personally though. I don't know how press works, but surely it doesn't go directly from his keyboard to print? Isn't there various steps along the way?
What exactly isn't Simon telling us?
I'm not saying he is hiding facts, but he presents them in a way that is not entirely accurate, and often adapts the context of his pieces.
He did also go big on that ridiculous Highfield Group thing yesterday....
Ian that is a brilliant answer
The majority of which I agree with.
The only thing that surprises me is that in 12 months of reading up on this you only seem to have questions for the Higgs trust.
The info you have potentially found regarding ACL is really interesting. I would love hear what questions you have for the Council and SISU, there must be loads.
Again you must have found gems no one else has with the depth you delve into things?
Remind me, what has he reported that hasn't been accurate?
I'm not saying he is hiding facts, but he presents them in a way that is not entirely accurate, and often adapts the context of his pieces.
He did also go big on that ridiculous Highfield Group thing yesterday....
Sorry, I'm not going to let this one go. Which of these are "explosive" headlines?
Ricoh Arena row: Coventry owners Sisu and The Alan Edward Higgs Charity set for high court
Coventry City FC: Alan Edward Higgs Charity prepares to face Sisu Capital in High Court
Sisu unlikely to appeal after High Court judge dismisses £290,000 claim against Higgs Charity
Sisu threatened to walk away from Sky Blues if they couldn't get Ricoh, High Court told
Higgs v Sisu latest: Charity 'assured Sky Blues would be told of debt plan'
Sisu v Higgs court battle: Coventry City owners prepared to pay £2m for 'worthless' stake in Ricoh Arena
Coventry City FC legal ruling: Sisu does not have to pay Alan Edward Higgs charity £29k
Look: Sisu v Higgs court battle - charity loses claim against Coventry City owners
Sky Blues director says Higgs v Sisu court battle was 'regrettable'
That's it. That's all the headlines from the court case. Seem as non-partisan and dry as you're likely to get to be honest.
Sorry, I'm not going to let this one go. Which of these are "explosive" headlines?
That's it. That's all the headlines from the court case. Seem as non-partisan and dry as you're likely to get to be honest.
Sorry, I'm not going to let this one go. Which of these are "explosive" headlines?
Ricoh Arena row: Coventry owners Sisu and The Alan Edward Higgs Charity set for high court
Coventry City FC: Alan Edward Higgs Charity prepares to face Sisu Capital in High Court
Sisu unlikely to appeal after High Court judge dismisses £290,000 claim against Higgs Charity
Sisu threatened to walk away from Sky Blues if they couldn't get Ricoh, High Court told
Higgs v Sisu latest: Charity 'assured Sky Blues would be told of debt plan'
Sisu v Higgs court battle: Coventry City owners prepared to pay £2m for 'worthless' stake in Ricoh Arena
Coventry City FC legal ruling: Sisu does not have to pay Alan Edward Higgs charity £29k
Look: Sisu v Higgs court battle - charity loses claim against Coventry City owners
Sky Blues director says Higgs v Sisu court battle was 'regrettable'
That's it. That's all the headlines from the court case. Seem as non-partisan and dry as you're likely to get to be honest.
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