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Tommo1993 · Sep 27, 2019

On a serious note and with respect CVD, it’s almost October and people are still firing shots at each for going or not going. Was I naive for thinking people on both sides of the fence would be over it by now? I hate this topic, I honestly do. Bolton away there was this guy shouting as loud as possible that he refuses to go to Birmingham, looking around to make sure people heard him. Personally think he was spoiling for a ruckus. Frankly quite embarrassed to be on the same side of the fence as someone like that. But on here if it’s brought up and hits a nerve (hands up to that) then I feel almost obliged to react.

clint van damme · Sep 27, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
On a serious note and with respect CVD, it’s almost October and people are still firing shots at each for going or not going. Was I naive for thinking people on both sides of the fence would be over it by now? I hate this topic, I honestly do. Bolton away there was this guy shouting as loud as possible that he refuses to go to Birmingham, looking around to make sure people heard him. Personally think he was spoiling for a ruckus. Frankly quite embarrassed to be on the same side of the fence as someone like that. But on here if it’s brought up and hits a nerve (hands up to that) then I feel almost obliged to react.

I honestly believe that in general peoples decisions have been respected. There are idiots on both sides of the argument like the one you describe but I think, and hopefully I'm right, they are in a minority.
Perhaps the fact that many going to SA never went to Sixfields gives them a bit of empathy with peoples decision not to go.

Adge · Sep 27, 2019

clint van damme said:
city vocally and the opposition financially!

Yep-it is what it is but if you want to put it that way.....

clint van damme · Sep 27, 2019

Adge said:
Yep-it is what it is but if you want to put it that way.....

was just tongue in cheek, like you say, it is what it is.

no_loyalty · Sep 27, 2019

CanadianCCFC said:
Do it

Have taken the plunge and bought a season ticket in block 27, hope there's no rowdy lot in there lol.

stupot07 · Sep 27, 2019

Interesting seeing comments that some fans will only do away games on principle the they cannot 'endorse' the move to brum.

It's ironic, as by only going to away games, they are in fact 'endorsing' the move to brum. With Wasps not willing to do a deal, and then demanding for something that completely unrealistic or acceptable, meant we had nowhere to play our games and fulfill our fixtures. We can't withdraw the complaint (that was submitted in Feb) with the European Commission even if we wanted to. It's been lodged, and they have to explore I'd it merits a full investigation or not. In the circumstances and regardless of blame, the only option for us to fulfill our fixtures and remain in the football league was to agree a temporary groundshare, otherwise we'd have been expunged from the league and cease to have a club.

Regardless of blame, fault, etc, this situation is different to Sixfields, this time we have been left with no choice.

So the only reason you have away games to go to, is because we're at Brum. Therefore by attending away games, whilst we are in this temporary groundshare, you are "endorsing" the move to brum. No brum, no team, no away games.

NB I don't believe anyone "endorses" the move, they go because it's that or could have been extinct like "Bury" and they just want to go and support their team both in spirit and financially.

And to add, that I know that people don't go for different reasons, so this post is only really about those who dont go as they don't want to 'endorse' it.

Dons tin hat

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Liquid Gold · Sep 27, 2019

To be honest it’s been a billion times more cordial than the last time.

itsabuzzard · Sep 27, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
To be honest it’s been a billion times more cordial than the last time.

Covcity4life will drink to that.

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Seaside-Skyblue · Sep 27, 2019

Kieranp96 said:
Typical city fans, only show up when in form.

To be fair if its winning was their only concern then it would be much easier for them to support one of top four. Its up to city to get these criteria middle ground fans (the ones that dont have blind love) back by keeping up what they're doing.

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Tile Hill Phil · Sep 27, 2019

Kingokings204 said:
This is me also. Winning is cloud 9 for me right now and being top of the league but my decision is purely mine and nothing to do with winning or losing. It’s not even a question for me although I get asked if I will go now we are top of the league. It’s a silly question.

I understand the whole politics and situation but I have made my mind up and it breaks my heart but I can’t control the off field situation.

For the record I respect people who go and make the extra travel and cost. It really is a personal moral decision for everyone.

I went to the Gillingham game at St Andrews but it felt strange, the lads i normally go with have made their minds up to only do away games and i think I'm leaning that way now. Doing Rotherham next week but am missing watching them play in Coventry

Liquid Gold · Sep 27, 2019

itsabuzzard said:
Covcity4life will drink to that.

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I’ve definitely had one too many. Soz

Adge · Sep 27, 2019

stupot07 said:
Interesting seeing comments that some fans will only do away games on principle the they cannot 'endorse' the move to brum.

It's ironic, as by only going to away games, they are in fact 'endorsing' the move to brum. With Wasps not willing to do a deal, and then demanding for something that completely unrealistic or acceptable, meant we had nowhere to play our games and fulfill our fixtures. We can't withdraw the complaint (that was submitted in Feb) with the European Commission even if we wanted to. It's been lodged, and they have to explore I'd it merits a full investigation or not. In the circumstances and regardless of blame, the only option for us to fulfill our fixtures and remain in the football league was to agree a temporary groundshare, otherwise we'd have been expunged from the league and cease to have a club.

Regardless of blame, fault, etc, this situation is different to Sixfields, this time we have been left with no choice.

So the only reason you have away games to go to, is because we're at Brum. Therefore by attending away games, whilst we are in this temporary groundshare, you are "endorsing" the move to brum. No brum, no team, no away games.

NB I don't believe anyone "endorses" the move, they go because it's that or could have been extinct like "Bury" and they just want to go and support their team both in spirit and financially.

And to add, that I know that people don't go for different reasons, so this post is only really about those who dont go as they don't want to 'endorse' it.

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“It’s different this time” seems to be the favourite line. Bottom dollar is that the club has for the second time been moved out of the City again.

ccfcway · Sep 28, 2019

stupot07 said:
So the only reason you have away games to go to, is because we're at Brum. Therefore by attending away games, whilst we are in this temporary groundshare, you are "endorsing" the move to brum. No brum, no team, no away games.

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How temporary ?. 3 years ends and we either extend or move somewhere else. EFL purely want fixtures to be fulfilled, that’s their red line. As every match is played elsewhere, we lose fans for good. There are very few new fans coming fwd, we can’t sustain what we will go through in the coming years.

Our best route home is if wasps die due to people not following them as they are away from home, just like we are !

It’s a race to the bottom

theferret · Sep 28, 2019

Adge said:
“It’s different this time” seems to be the favourite line. Bottom dollar is that the club has for the second time been moved out of the City again.

It isn't just a 'line', it is fact. It is different, and this is reflected in the number of people travelling. When Rotherham played in Sheffield, B Rovers in Bath, Brighton in Gillingham and ourselves in N'ton, the circumstances were all different and people either chose to follow or they didn't based on those circumstances. In the end, they all went home, as will we, sooner than most people think. No point going round on circles over it. Go or don't go, and most of us are perfectly comfortable with the choices people have made.

Wyken Sky Blue · Sep 28, 2019

Not been to St Andrews yet, first game is likely to be the midweek game against Fleetwood.

We are here because Wasps have kicked us out, simple as.

I understand both points of view, we should be in playing in Coventry as we are Coventry City FC.

What I don't get is away games only. Why? Why give money to our competitors when the club (not SISU) need it the most?

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Adge · Sep 28, 2019

theferret said:
It isn't just a 'line', it is fact. It is different, and this is reflected in the number of people travelling. When Rotherham played in Sheffield, B Rovers in Bath, Brighton in Gillingham and ourselves in N'ton, the circumstances were all different and people either chose to follow or they didn't based on those circumstances. In the end, they all went home, as will we, sooner than most people think. No point going round on circles over it. Go or don't go, and most of us are perfectly comfortable with the choices people have made.

The owners have moved the Club out of the City for a second time. That is the FACT why most fans are not going. But as you say each to their own.

Covstu · Sep 28, 2019

A lot of the people of Facebook who are vocal on NOPM etc didn’t even go to the Ricoh nevermind attending SA. For me I don’t mind going, I would prefer the Ricoh as we need to come home but it shouldn’t deter from watching some good football on a decent pitch. My fear is that we would move back in January on a shite pitch and potentially blow our promotion chances. Realistically we are here for the season so let’s make it count

Grendel · Sep 28, 2019

ccfcway said:
How temporary ?. 3 years ends and we either extend or move somewhere else. EFL purely want fixtures to be fulfilled, that’s their red line. As every match is played elsewhere, we lose fans for good. There are very few new fans coming fwd, we can’t sustain what we will go through in the coming years.

Our best route home is if wasps die due to people not following them as they are away from home, just like we are !

It’s a race to the bottom

Why do you keep saying we lose fans for good? There is zero evidence of that

Nick · Sep 28, 2019

Adge said:
The owners have moved the Club out of the City for a second time. That is the FACT why most fans are not going. But as you say each to their own.

Through choice?

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2019

Tile Hill Phil said:
I went to the Gillingham game at St Andrews but it felt strange, the lads i normally go with have made their minds up to only do away games and i think I'm leaning that way now. Doing Rotherham next week but am missing watching them play in Coventry

Going off your name you're from tile Hill like me, and it takes an extra 7 minutes by car than it does to the ricoh.
You're putting money into the club and for the sake of 7 minutes, you watch good football by a young team that's trying to do their best for the club and its supporters, not to mention the manager who deserves the support

Tommo1993 · Sep 28, 2019

Evo1883 said:
Going off your name you're from tile Hill like like me, and it takes an extra 7 minutes by car than it does to the ricoh.
You're putting money into the club and for the sake of 7 minutes, you watch good football by a young team that's trying to do their best for the club and its supporters, not to mention the manager who deserves the support

Not sure it’s down to distance, Evo. Don’t go myself either, but the distance excuse I don’t buy tbh.

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
Not sure it’s down to distance, Evo. Don’t go myself either, but the distance excuse I don’t buy tbh.

I don't buy the reason for fans not going either.
Do supporters that stay away think it hurts them MORE Than somebody like me or my old man who travel thousands of miles every year home or away to watch the club?
The answer is no, an extra 7 minutes in travel time for me is a no brainer, I get to watch the club I love and I'm supporting them financially.

Staying away is helping nobody

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2019

Mind you, I suppose a good thing is that atleast half the usual hard core home supporters are still going. We are getting more than some thought we would.

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2019

Evo1883 said:
Going off your name you're from tile Hill like me, and it takes an extra 7 minutes by car than it does to the ricoh.
You're putting money into the club and for the sake of 7 minutes, you watch good football by a young team that's trying to do their best for the club and its supporters, not to mention the manager who deserves the support

He s actually from Coundon but it wasn't as catchy.

ccfcway · Sep 28, 2019

Grendel said:
Why do you keep saying we lose fans for good? There is zero evidence of that

My old neighbours all had season tickets for ccfc (4 of them). We moved to Northampton and they haven’t gone since, lost interest and started following cov blaze home and away.

Maybe your right and I’m the only one who knows people that no longer go due to them losing interest when we moved last time.

Not looked at all. Do our attendances hold up after we moved back last time ?

Grendel · Sep 28, 2019

ccfcway said:
My old neighbours all had season tickets for ccfc (4 of them). We moved to Northampton and they haven’t gone since, lost interest and started following cov blaze home and away.

Maybe your right and I’m the only one who knows people that no longer go due to them losing interest when we moved last time.

Not looked at all. Do our attendances hold up after we moved back last time ?

We had 1,000 more last season than the average in our first league 1 season

Garryb80 · Sep 28, 2019

Tile Hill Phil said:
I went to the Gillingham game at St Andrews but it felt strange, the lads i normally go with have made their minds up to only do away games and i think I'm leaning that way now. Doing Rotherham next week but am missing watching them play in Coventry

So helping our opposition with money instead of your own club. City get a cut of the away gate also so you still give mpney to the club. Sorry but away only fans gave no valid argument for me. Either go to home and away or none at all

Tommo1993 · Sep 28, 2019

Evo1883 said:
I don't buy the reason for fans not going either.
Do supporters that stay away think it hurts them MORE Than somebody like me or my old man who travel thousands of miles every year home or away to watch the club?
The answer is no, an extra 7 minutes in travel time for me is a no brainer, I get to watch the club I love and I'm supporting them financially.

Staying away is helping nobody

Can’t speak for myself about it hurting tbh. Have to hold my hands up and admit it doesn’t actually pain me to miss the games.

Nick · Sep 28, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
Can’t speak for myself about it hurting tbh. Have to hold my hands up and admit it doesn’t actually pain me to miss the games.

It's no spice girls is it

Tommo1993 · Sep 28, 2019

Garryb80 said:
So helping our opposition with money instead of your own club. City get a cut of the away gate also so you still give mpney to the club. Sorry but away only fans gave no valid argument for me. Either go to home and away or none at all

I know plenty who go to home games and don’t really bother with away games, and have always done that. That’s not a valid argument either.

Tommo1993 · Sep 28, 2019

Nick said:
It's no spice girls is it

Exactly

Garryb80 · Sep 28, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
I know plenty who go to home games and don’t really bother with away games, and have always done that. That’s not a valid argument either.

Well it is because they put money in to OUR club rather then just the opposition

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
Can’t speak for myself about it hurting tbh. Have to hold my hands up and admit it doesn’t actually pain me to miss the games.

Will never understand that sorry, but it's your choice

Tommo1993 · Sep 28, 2019

Evo1883 said:
Will never understand that sorry, but it's your choice

Can missing a football game really “hurt”?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Sep 28, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
Can missing a football game really “hurt”?

Yes. I missed a game once because I'd agreed to tidy up my nan's garden and some brambles and holly had started growing and I got scratched to buggery. That hurt.

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