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stupot07 · Feb 2, 2015

wingy said:
I think you may be surprised just how much our loans are costing us
Both executives of the club have often iterated and reiterated this point

Don't be daft, we'll literally be paying them with bottles of vimto and packets of cheese and onion crisps..

Nonleagueherewecome · Feb 2, 2015

Where did I say that Henderson came from a big club? I think I said the opposite...O'Halloran was perm. You can pick and choose the dross, I can say Jordan Henderson, Stephen Warnock and PVA as signings from Prem clubs on loan who are amongst the best players that I've seen at the club since we were in the top flight. Cork was pretty good too. Anyway, I liked Peter Clarke, Lloyd Dyer and at times, Duffy.

Where's your list of awesome non-Prem loans that we've had? DMC and that's about it, really.

Nonleagueherewecome · Feb 2, 2015

Oh and Pennington is great in his right position.

kg82 · Feb 2, 2015

Wasn't Neil Wood permanent too? And Hines wasn't too bad, neither was Nimely or Bailey.

stupot07 · Feb 2, 2015

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Where did I say that Henderson came from a big club? I think I said the opposite...O'Halloran was perm. You can pick and choose the dross, I can say Jordan Henderson, Stephen Warnock and PVA as signings from Prem clubs on loan who are amongst the best players that I've seen at the club since we were in the top flight. Cork was pretty good too. Anyway, I liked Peter Clarke, Lloyd Dyer and at times, Duffy.

Where's your list of awesome non-Prem loans that we've had? DMC and that's about it, really.

Yeah I know some were perms, just saying that youngster from PL does no necessarily equal quality - warnock was awesome , PVA and Henderson were good, cork was ok but has gone on to good things, Duffy was ok in his first spell, clarke and dyer were poor, I would also class partridge as a success but look at what happened to his career. Most of our loans have come from the PL, so naturally there will be fewer good no -PL loans. But DMc was awseome, Bailey was good, as was Leon Clarke and Martin, Petrasso, Jamie Jones looks good, the two new lads on Saturday looked promising (early doors though) Dick Wood

Grendel · Feb 2, 2015

torchomatic said:
That's a lie and you know it. Only Coventry City sign players on loan.

I think Noggin would call it trolling

stupot07 · Feb 2, 2015

kg82 said:
Wasn't Neil Wood permanent too? And Hines wasn't too bad, neither was Nimely or Bailey.

Nicely was ok, but look at his career since, neil wood was a perm but came from a big 4. Just backs up my argument that coming from a big 4 doesn't guarantee quality or that you're going to have a great career.

Bailey was good, but went of the boil, probably shouldn't be on my list....but hey ho he came from the championship and was developed by Crewe, and cut his teeth in leagues one and two.

torchomatic · Feb 2, 2015

Partridge was fantastic. Norwood was excellent too. He scored a great goal at Cardiff one mid-week trip.

stupot07 · Feb 2, 2015

torchomatic said:
Partridge was fantastic. Norwood was excellent too. He scored a great goal at Cardiff one mid-week trip.

Yeah they were pretty good too. Championship clubs don't tend to loan each other youngsters, so given we spent 10 years on the championship and only in our 3rd season in league one, we have had a lot more loans from the PL.

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kg82 · Feb 2, 2015

stupot07 said:
Nicely was ok, but look at his career since, neil wood was a perm but came from a big 4. Just backs up my argument that coming from a big 4 doesn't guarantee quality or that you're going to have a great career.

Bailey was good, but went of the boil, probably shouldn't be on my list....but hey ho he came from the championship and was developed by Crewe, and cut his teeth in leagues one and two.

Oh God yeah, I agree with the point. Wood was awful, worse than Simon Haworth and Kyle Lightbourne put together

Hobo · Feb 3, 2015

torchomatic said:
Partridge was fantastic. Norwood was excellent too. He scored a great goal at Cardiff one mid-week trip.

I agree and I thought Gardner look decent also.

tisza · Feb 3, 2015

wingy said:
I think you may be surprised just how much our loans are costing us
Both executives of the club have often iterated and reiterated this point

that's by the by. the point is there is big difference in loan fees & wages for premier league youngsters and their championship equivalents.

Noggin · Feb 3, 2015

Grendel said:
I think Noggin would call it trolling

His post is sarcasm, not the most mature way to make a point but we all resort to it. He isn't trying to deceive anyone, he isn't actually expecting people to believe that he thinks it's a lie and only we sign loans so it's not in anyway the same as your post that I said was trolling. I did find it amusing to see you say that me accusing you of trolling (alongside a large debate of your points) was my response to not being able to debate to then see you respond to people saying they were wumming without manageing to debate with them at all. A Hypocrite and a Troll.

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