And there are still 1 or 2 SISU lovers out there - incredible. (1 Viewer)

Seyeclops666 · Jul 31, 2013

So as predicted their bluff has been called and they have shown their true colours - the offer of ridiculously low rent dismissed in 24 hours. Yet Grendel and co still suggest it is ACL/CCC who have something to hide - quite incredible.

ACL have just shown once and for all that SISU scum don't give a shit about CCFC and certainly not the fans - and just want to get their hands on the stadium through nefarious means.

There is nothing but complete surrender we could offer this scum - to use the words of Paisley (sorry) There shall be no surrender !!

LB87ccfc · Jul 31, 2013

Complete twa* if still a sisu preacher

mrbluesky87 · Jul 31, 2013

It's either Fisher and his cronies or Leicester fans, I cannot see why any decent CCFC fan would want to defend SISU.

@richh87 · Jul 31, 2013

mrbluesky87 said:
It's either Fisher and his cronies or Leicester fans, I cannot see why any decent CCFC fan would want to defend SISU.

They aren't decent CCFC fans, they are on a wind up and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Otis · Jul 31, 2013

Hard to defend anyone in this debacle.

How we got to this state of affairs is beyond belief.

LB87ccfc · Jul 31, 2013

Sisus investors should be stepping in here and saying hang on we have invested X amount and we feel the 10 year lease is a fair more effective deal and economical at this current time.

Seyeclops666 · Jul 31, 2013

Otis said:
Hard to defend anyone in this debacle.

How we got to this state of affairs is beyond belief.

It is easy to defend lots of people and organisations in this debacle even if some have made mistakes. What isn't easy is to defend in any way shape or form the malevolent actions of the SISU scum. Blame cannot be equally apportioned and anyone who cannot see that is insane.

Nsgdm1 · Jul 31, 2013

I wonder how many of the season ticket purchasers feel proud and happy with their purchases after this latest disgraceful statement from Fischer?

LB87ccfc · Jul 31, 2013

I do not understand people purchasing a season ticket when you can easily spend the money going to an official away game and have a much better day.

Absolute mind boggling.

SkyblueBazza · Jul 31, 2013

I find it incredible that there are people STILL trying to point the finger, intimidate, accuse, ridicule etc. others simply for having a different point of view.
Some "SISU lovers" do not love them at all but often offer a more balanced opinion/view than some of the vindictive nonsense that resembles "Animal Farm" & the SISU - bad, anti-SISU - good approach.
I encourage everyone to be more open minded - is there anyone that is still blind to the fact that SISU are actually right in their wanting to unite club & stadium & the revenue therein genrated???
If YOU (reading this are one that does) you need to get real! Revenue via the current Ricoh lease/arrangement is next to nothing & will not sustain a FL club.
Methods, ambitions (non-CCFC related i.e. money related instead) of SISU I find abhorrent - the principle of what they are saying seems spot on.
I went from defending SISU around the start of 2012 to dislike & through to wanting them out at admin.
The fact is is they are here & seemingly here to stay. We have not beaten them...maybe many ought to soften their approach to them (a subtle...but not full-on...JOIN them!!!) ignore them & get behind the team - just ignore the behind the scenes stuff. It'll just happen regardless of the fans' wants & emotions.

stupot07 · Jul 31, 2013

Seyeclops666 said:
So as predicted their bluff has been called and they have shown their true colours - the offer of ridiculously low rent dismissed in 24 hours. Yet Grendel and co still suggest it is ACL/CCC who have something to hide - quite incredible.

ACL have just shown once and for all that SISU scum don't give a shit about CCFC and certainly not the fans - and just want to get their hands on the stadium through nefarious means.

There is nothing but complete surrender we could offer this scum - to use the words of Paisley (sorry) There shall be no surrender !!

Lets just wait to see what happens at the CVA meeting on Friday, before spitting our dummies out.

Can you show me where it has been confirmed that the rent off has been dismissed please?

ajsccfc · Jul 31, 2013

Oh man. Fisher, his cronies, Leicester fans and WUMs?

Sky Blues · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
Lets just wait to see what happens at the CVA meeting on Friday, before spitting our dummies out.

Can you show me where it has been confirmed that the rent off has been dismissed please?

I agree that Friday is crunch day, but Tim Fisher's words today sure don't look good for playing in Coventry:

Sky Blues said:
Not looking good.

Update from the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/31/coventry-city-liquidation-cva?CMP=twt_gu

Coventry City chief executive, Tim Fisher, said ACL's amendments would not be made to the CVA and that a planned groundshare with Northampton Town would go ahead.
"They've run us up against a cliff edge of liquidation and they've moved to tip us over," Fisher said. "All I can say is that it is the biggest crying shame.
"How can a public body not accept a complete CVA where they will get the money that they are owed, instead of a liquidation where they will get a fraction of that, potentially one-sixtieth of what they would have got?
"This isn't a financial situation of our making; there is no financial gain. Actually there is economic and financial wreckage at the club. I'm not sure we could have done anything differently."

stupot07 · Jul 31, 2013

Sky Blues said:
I agree that Friday is crunch day, but Tim Fisher's words today sure don't look good for playing in Coventry:

ACL need to sign the CVA

DazzleTommyDazzle · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
ACL need to sign the CVA

And reduce the rent to £2.87 per annum
And give SISU a 24 hour break clause
And all the pie revenues.........

Nsgdm1 · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
ACL need to sign the CVA

They will if their fairly reasonable offer is accepted,the only ones who have come up with any sort of offer at any point of the negotiations are ACL what do SISU want to continue to play at the Ricoh ?

Nsgdm1 · Jul 31, 2013

DazzleTommyDazzle said:
And reduce the rent to £2.87 per annum
And give SISU a 24 hour break clause
And all the pie revenues.........

And wrap a big bow round the Ricoh and give it to them as a christmas present ,
and some bones for Timmy's dog

stupot07 · Jul 31, 2013

Nsgdm1 said:
They will if their fairly reasonable offer is accepted,the only ones who have come up with any sort of offer at any point of the negotiations are ACL what do SISU want to continue to play at the Ricoh ?

The CVA signed?

cloughie · Jul 31, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
I find it incredible that there are people STILL trying to point the finger, intimidate, accuse, ridicule etc. others simply for having a different point of view.
Some "SISU lovers" do not love them at all but often offer a more balanced opinion/view than some of the vindictive nonsense that resembles "Animal Farm" & the SISU - bad, anti-SISU - good approach.
I encourage everyone to be more open minded - is there anyone that is still blind to the fact that SISU are actually right in their wanting to unite club & stadium & the revenue therein genrated???
If YOU (reading this are one that does) you need to get real! Revenue via the current Ricoh lease/arrangement is next to nothing & will not sustain a FL club.
Methods, ambitions (non-CCFC related i.e. money related instead) of SISU I find abhorrent - the principle of what they are saying seems spot on.
I went from defending SISU around the start of 2012 to dislike & through to wanting them out at admin.
The fact is is they are here & seemingly here to stay. We have not beaten them...maybe many ought to soften their approach to them (a subtle...but not full-on...JOIN them!!!) ignore them & get behind the team - just ignore the behind the scenes stuff. It'll just happen regardless of the fans' wants & emotions.

I understand the sentiment here but you have to get real about sisu wanting to unite the club and stadium. It is not about the club in any way shape or form for sisu, it's about sisu and them making money by owning the ricoh. The club is just the vehicle they need to get to that point.

cloughie · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
The CVA signed?

and you believe that CVA signed would guarantee playing at the ricoh?

Sky Blues · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
ACL need to sign the CVA

If ACL sign the CVA, how does that get us playing in Coventry?

Nsgdm1 · Jul 31, 2013

DazzleTommyDazzle said:
And reduce the rent to £2.87 per annum
And give SISU a 24 hour break clause
And all the pie revenues.........

stupot07 said:
The CVA signed?

and what are they prepared to give ? you are expecting ACL to give everything up and SISU nothing ,what is the better option in your opinion, taking in to account cost,attendances,income and the image of CCFC, the deal offered by ACL to continue at the Ricoh or moving to Northampton ?

skybluehugh · Jul 31, 2013

Nsgdm1 said:
I wonder how many of the season ticket purchasers feel proud and happy with their purchases after this latest disgraceful statement from Fischer?

It would not surprise me if SHITSU had made all the players and staff pay for their family members season tickets just so they could at least show some sales. Promising to repay them in cash, good luck guys in getting your money back

skybluehugh · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
ACL need to sign the CVA

No they fecking don't. They do need to tell SHITSU to take very short walk off old Timmy's cliff he has gotten us too.

RPHunt · Jul 31, 2013

stupot07 said:
The CVA signed?

Has Fisher said they will play at the Ricoh if the the CVA is signed? I must have missed that.

SkyblueBazza · Jul 31, 2013

cloughie said:
I understand the sentiment here but you have to get real about sisu wanting to unite the club and stadium. It is not about the club in any way shape or form for sisu, it's about sisu and them making money by owning the ricoh. The club is just the vehicle they need to get to that point.

That's right...& the two go hand in hand. They turn us into a success - they gain through raking in the profits...&/or selling thanks to the higher value. Not rocket science is it?
So talk of them just milking us into oblivion is nonesense really. Having said that I dislike & disapprove of their aggressive & intimidatory methods.

stupot07 · Aug 1, 2013

cloughie said:
and you believe that CVA signed would guarantee playing at the ricoh?

No not guarantee but vastly improve the chances.

Delboycov · Aug 1, 2013

In fairness Grendel has said he's not going to games at Northampton and has rightly slagged off SISU at times and is right in that there are other forces working against CCFC with this mess! For me the only SISU 'fans' I've seen currently on here or GMK where there are plenty of backtrackers are TSB who is clearly a WUM, Paxman who has tried to put forward a case for 'Arena Tinpot' and failed miserably and Godiva who is clearly erm...a SISU fan! He always has been though right from GMK so fair play to him for not changing his views where a lot of others have. I've got to respect that.

stupot07 · Aug 1, 2013

Nsgdm1 said:
and what are they prepared to give ? you are expecting ACL to give everything up and SISU nothing ,what is the better option in your opinion, taking in to account cost,attendances,income and the image of CCFC, the deal offered by ACL to continue at the Ricoh or moving to Northampton ?

They aren't giving up everything are they? They have offered reduced and sensible rent.

They don't sign the CVA, 15 point deduction, long investigation, no chance of playing at the Ricoh, embargo will probably be longer and we'll get relegated.

lordsummerisle · Aug 1, 2013

cloughie said:
I understand the sentiment here but you have to get real about sisu wanting to unite the club and stadium. It is not about the club in any way shape or form for sisu, it's about sisu and them making money by owning the ricoh. The club is just the vehicle they need to get to that point.

Fair point to be fair, but the club is also the vehicle being used by ACL/CCC to make the Arena viable as well.

It seems strange that nobody seems to be going on anymore about how the club is holding back the Arena from making more money anymore?

Those that have said that, should be pleased that the club are apparently moving out, this allowing the taxpayers and charities of Coventry to benefit from the much increased income?

Not a view I've ever agreed with, think that they are interdependent, neither can survive meaningfully without the other.

Sky Blues · Aug 1, 2013

stupot07 said:
No not guarantee but vastly improve the chances.

If Sisu reject the ACL offer it suggests to me that they are only interested in getting the Ricoh on the cheap. If that is what they want, why would they then play at the Ricoh if the CVA is signed? Surely they would go sit in Northampton and wait while the legal challenges play out etc?

valiant15 · Aug 1, 2013

Rot in piss sisu. You fucking disgusting bunch of cunts.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2013

Delboycov said:
In fairness Grendel has said he's not going to games at Northampton and has rightly slagged off SISU at times and is right in that there are other forces working against CCFC with this mess! For me the only SISU 'fans' I've seen currently on here or GMK where there are plenty of backtrackers are TSB who is clearly a WUM, Paxman who has tried to put forward a case for 'Arena Tinpot' and failed miserably and Godiva who is clearly erm...a SISU fan! He always has been though right from GMK so fair play to him for not changing his views where a lot of others have. I've got to respect that.

God I hate singling people out, but even Godiva has criticised them at times too and, more importantly, has been pretty polite in his talk all the way through.

lordsummerisle · Aug 1, 2013

Sky Blues said:
If Sisu reject the ACL offer it suggests to me that they are only interested in getting the Ricoh on the cheap. If that is what they want, why would they then play at the Ricoh if the CVA is signed? Surely they would go sit in Northampton and wait while the legal challenges play out etc?

How can they get the Ricoh on the cheap when they'll have lots of other sports clubs and year round concerts at the Ricoh making it a far more viable proposition without the club than with it?

valiant15 · Aug 1, 2013

What's it to do with a sisu cocksucker from Lincoln? Fuck off you 2 faced c**t.

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