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I'm sure you could dig it out Don. You'll also see I've criticised TF/SW plenty of times for the way they handled it and dithering over replacing him.
At the begining of the season BSB, how long did you say AT should have before he should be sacked if it is not happening.
You're obviously quite easily confused
It was a quite reasonable decision to appoint Thorn after the way he turned around a side that had looked destined for relegation (in my view).
The problem was that the Board then decided to drastically cut the playing squad.
The second decision undermined the first.
Perhaps Thorn would have failed with a side that included King, Turner, Juke and a decent player to replace Gunna (who I thought was always going to leave) and perhaps he'd have succeeded. We'll never know.
I'm sure you could dig it out Don. You'll also see I've criticised TF/SW plenty of times for the way they handled it and dithering over replacing him.
No I can't be bothered, did you think three games was about right. Or were you saying ten.
The way I remember it, Grendel to be fair to him was saying 3 games.
I was suggesting with 9 New signings you would be able to properly judge by Xmas.
I thought you were a ten game man.
Now it seems after 3 games you are able to say MR is doing better than AT with these players.
TBF to AT he had 3 games with them.
I think it is your opinion he us doing better but you can't really say. It's almost impossible to judge a manager on 3 games
I am sure that we will soon find out when he if offered his next job in management, I am sure that we won't be waiting too long before someone snaps up a man of such talent. After all, a highly knowledgeable minority on here and Ken Dulieu obviously believe in him....I am just surprised that he hasn't been put in charge for one of the jobs he has applied for so far.
Yes, I've noticed you trot out this line on a number of occassions.
I presume that you were dead set against the appointment of Robins given that he'd not been snapped up in the 18 months or so he was out of management - and so was, by your reckoning, obviously not "a man of such talent".
MR has had considerably more than 3 games. The fact of the matter is that Thorn is long gone now yet people seem to be more behind him than the current manager.
I am fully behind MR and really like what he says in interviews. However that dies mean I will not defend AT if I think unfair comments are made on here.
You said AT's replacement is doing a better job than him. I don't see how you can compare. I suppose you could pick 3 games where he won. Or someone else could pick three games where he has done worse than AT.
My point is you can't judge a manager over three games. Not unless it was something like 3, 5 nil defeats.
Hardly, I thought that Robins should have been given the job after Boothroyd was sacked.
Who has been judged after only three games?
How do we know that half of that interview wasnt bullshit?
How do we know that half of that interview wasnt bullshit?
But AT had a lot more than 3 games didn't he? Personally I wish Thorn hadn't gone and done a 'please feel sorry for me' radio interview as he frankly has no relevance for discussion as far as we are concerned-but that is the nature of the man. Never acknowledged his own shortcomings as manager even now.
Yes, I would also have been happy with that - incidentally it was strongly rumoured that RR favoured him too.
I was just thinking that your faith in him must have been tested by him not being "snapped up" by another club over such a long period - given that it seems you hold this measure in such high regard with respect to Thorn.
Did you say he should have been judged after 10 games.
You seem a rational and intelligent person. I can't believe you would not have considered this season as a
different entity to last season.
Yes you can't completely discount last season. However any rational thinking person would not think.
Bolt on 3 games from last season make your decision.
Please correct me if I an wrong but I am prety sure you said at least 10 games.
If you did that would have been for good reason.
No he wasn't. He was allowed 0% of his preferred strike force for example. Hardly freedom of the city, eh?
And his successor's success has been greatly assisted by virtue of one if the players arriving Waggott was unwilling or unable to secure during Thorn's tenure.
As I state, myopic hyperbole
In an ideal situation he would've been dismissed in April, as I've said earlier. That I've also criticised the board's handling of his sacking and replacement is kind of implicit in my thinking that 3 games probably wasn't adequate-but we have no idea of what was going on behind the scenes so his sacking may well have been justified for reasons other than results-we just don't know. What amplified it was faffing around with a new manager whilst the out-of-depth Shaw properly derailed things; regardless of how this season ultimately pans out Fisher/Waggott will draw criticism from me for how they handled things from April through to August.
That bit winds me up no end and their decision to sack a manager they allowed to sign technically 10 players after 3 matches. Followed by 5 defeats whilst they carried out a drawn out recruitiment process.
I have to say if we don't get to the play offs. I hope they are held fully accountable.
I preferred to concentrate what he had actually achieved with Barnsley on a tight budget, as it was obvious that there was going to be more cost-cutting (as has happened every season).
The comments about being 'snapped up' are in reference to some of the wild claims that were posted on here about his ability as a manager...'best since Hill, Sillett', 'the claims about storming the league if he was WHU manager' etc.
Does anybody actually believe they text him to go to a room but he didnt get the text and when he got there they had gone?
I wouldnt believe a thing either are saying to be fair!
I don't claim to read every post on this site, but I can't recall any "AT is the best since Hill" posts for quite some time - so if I understand you correctly that your posts referred to above are a deliberate overstatement in response to them, perhaps you can drop them now
The West Ham one would be good for a laugh as well!
I don't really see how it is important or any of our concern how he was sacked, what difference does it make to us, Mark Robins and the current players?
How do we know that half of that interview wasnt bullshit?
The West Ham one would be good for a laugh as well!
That bit winds me up no end and their decision to sack a manager they allowed to sign technically 10 players after 3 matches. Followed by 5 defeats whilst they carried out a drawn out recruitiment process.
I have to say if we don't get to the play offs. I hope they are held fully accountable.
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