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Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 26, 2017

Hobo said:
But seeing Lloyd McGrath snuff out the skills of the likes of Hoddle and Gascoigne was a skill in itself. Don't underestimate the skills required to be a good defender or a man to man marker. It's not all down to hard work you know.

It is a skill but not one to attract crowds

Hobo · Oct 27, 2017

Terry Gibson's perm said:
It is a skill but not one to attract crowds

It attracts me, games that are 1-0, 1-1, 2-1 are often great battles and one bit of extra special skill unlocks the door and makes a difference.

Whereas games that are 3-1, 3-2 or 4-3 are full of errors and gifted goals. Goals often doesn't mean that you are entertained or that you watching high levels of skill.

stevefloyd · Oct 27, 2017

It took great skill to place that shot so accurately off mabbetts knee

Nick · Oct 27, 2017

Apparently had his op

Calista · Oct 27, 2017

Nick said:
Apparently had his op

Would like to see him back as soon as possible, but I guess with that kind of injury it's not likely this season.

One of the few "proper footballers" we have, and I agree with Robins that he's a big miss - I'm sure we'd be a lot more creative if he was in the team. As it is, there's far too much reliance on Jones, who's got great ability but is still learning his trade.

Esoterica · Oct 27, 2017

Nick said:
Apparently had his op

I'd be quite surprised if he does miss the whole season. I'd expect him back late March or April.

Johnnythespider · Oct 27, 2017

Esoterica said:
I'd be quite surprised if he does miss the whole season. I'd expect him back late March or April.

This is what I was wondering, how long does it take to get back after the op. Time for physio then fitness then game time ?

Otis · Oct 28, 2017

Johnnythespider said:
This is what I was wondering, how long does it take to get back after the op. Time for physio then fitness then game time ?

It always seems such a broad thing to say 'out for the season.' Has still to be an estimation, same as 2-3 weeks, or 2-3 months.

Think it just means long-term and that he probably won't come back.

Nick · Oct 28, 2017

He will score our winner at Luton, he really just hurt it slightly*

*made up, but hopeful

Skyblueweeman · Oct 28, 2017

Said it before and will say it again...I think he’s a massive loss for us this season. I think we’d offer so much more going forward with someone like him.

I bet Robins was devo’ed when he got injured. I suspect he was the ‘marquee’ signing Robins hoped would propel the promotion charge.

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CJ_covblaze · Oct 29, 2017

ACL’s can take up to a year to recover from. Using recover in the loosest sense of the word as very few players ever fully do get back to what they were before. Quickest time is 6-7 months. If he’s done his PCL too it’s 8-9 months minimum.

Done my right one 3 times now. PCL once and Medials twice too. They’re currently working out what to do with me. If I had 4 legs they would’ve used a bolt gun by now.

Calista · Oct 29, 2017

CJ_covblaze said:
ACL’s can take up to a year to recover from. Using recover in the loosest sense of the word as very few players ever fully do get back to what they were before. Quickest time is 6-7 months. If he’s done his PCL too it’s 8-9 months minimum.

Done my right one 3 times now. PCL once and Medials twice too. They’re currently working out what to do with me. If I had 4 legs they would’ve used a bolt gun by now.

Sorry to hear about your woes CJ, it must be horrible. But it’s unduly pessimistic to say that very few recover fully – in the old days that was true, but most professionals seem to come back fine from ACL now, although it can take a long time.

Theo Walcott springs to mind – didn’t he say that he was even faster afterwards than before! I think Francesco Totti was another.

I found the link below from 2013 (and the surgical results keep improving all the time). It mentions numerous stars including Ruud van Nistelrooy & Alan Shearer, neither of whom did too badly after their ACL problems!

The Number Fourteen: Football Players after an ACL Tear

Hope the bolt gun stays in its box

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