dongonzalos
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Exactly
So I am posting it again because it was wrecked last time and it was not the fault of the OP.
I think it was closed because people got silly and personal and over the top both ways, without checking I can't remember.
To be honest I am noticing more people becoming more frustrated with SISU.
People were rightly presuming there was more to it. SISU had a master plan and all was going to be explained. That success for the club means success for SISU so no matter what they do it will benefit the club
They now realise that that us not the case. What benefits SISU does not necessarily benefit the club.
The small minority is getting smaller by the day
Top wumming Don.
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Bigfatrons,
You are absolutely right and the thread proves your point. Many of our fans would rather take the, "all parties are to blame and let's argue amongst ourselves about how much whilst doing nothing to hold the only party accountable to us as fans to blame ... The current owners" rather than, "all parties may have some blame but as fans we can only hold the current owners accountable for their actions now and in the future, so let's unite and do that."
This City is famous for its fight and resolve - and look at what we've all been reduced to.
So, basically you've become apathetic because some people don't 100% agree with your view point....ok.
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But what benefits the club also benefits sisu - and that's the problem for isn't it?
I understand why most hold Sisu truly responsible for the way things are and to some extent I do also but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's 50/50, please see below if you're confused:
Sisu 50%
Council/ACL 20%
Brian Richardson 10%
Chris Coleman 10%
Ray Ranson 10%
All for different reasons but all should hang their heads in shame for what they have done.
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I hate SISU....but also get very sick of people coming on here stating their opinion of how it is, then getting angry that people have the cheek to have an opinion of their own, and call them the 'usual suspects'
Is it so wrong to be proud of the council/ACL
for the actions they have taken so far.
Firstly the council saving the Ricoh deal when it was about to fail.
Then offering the club a sliding scale rent dependant on league and attendances which was rejected.
If the rumours are true after years of regression under SISU when faced with owners not paying their bills. Making an attempt to take the situation head on that hopefully would have led to new owners.
Then standing up to an administration process that was in their opinion flaws. Surely the easy thing to do would be accept the administration decision. Getting the money back and not looking like the bad guy when the points deduction occurs. Instead they stood their ground protesting against a flawed process.
Despite all this and lots of provocation they have made various offers to get the club back. Including a temporary rent free offer.
Now with all this pressure surely the easiest thing to do would be to crumble to whatever SISU demand. Yet they are still prepared to fight it out and not be bullied by a moraless hedge fund.
Some of their decisions have affected me personally in a negative way, yet I can't help taking my hat off to them and feel proud that little Coventry Council and a local charity are prepared to take on a global hedge fund.
Yes I do believe you can have it all support your team, support your council and do not want your clubs owners to stick around.
The last time I checked we didn't live in a dictatorship..
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This post again proves it must be everybody must agree with you. Why not if a few parties have some share of blame that each should be held accountable for what they have done?
Because many of the other parties are long gone ... Previous owners
The others, ACL are accountable to their shareholders not City fans.
CCC is accountable to the people of Coventry, not CIty fans.
Plus as the club has left the city those 2 parties are not capable of making the decision to sort the mess out.
That's the common sense mentality that some took to justify defending SISU's actions.
Only now people are starting to realise that it is not as clear cut as that.
What benefits SISU benefits SISU if the club gets trashed in the process so be it.
Compensation as a result of a Judicial review will have no benefit for the club at all.
(However to get there SISU have to loom like they are trying to run a business despite venomous attacks by the council to destroy them. )
still can't believe certain posters still support SISU they are to blame they took us out of coventry and still fans can't see it
Are you saying there is no astro turfing or funny business from acl on here to stir anything up?
Who needs to pay people to divide fans with threads like this?
I hate the usual suspects who hate been called the usual suspects
No point trying to get a simple point across bigfatron's, the dogwagging contingent will always respond with lengthy posts, which simply confirm the post you originally made.As I've said a million times on this thread already people are entitled to their own opinion.
However this myth that all sides are responsible (presented as fact, not opinion) is alienating the majority who will simply walk away.
So it's not divisive to call those who go to Sixfields scabs/spineless, etc and blame them for where we are, whilst also having a go at those who are sitting on the fence?
Funny you don't have a problem with posters arguing or denigrating other mans feelings when they are being denigrated for going to Sixfields...
Am I worried? Yes and no. Other clubs have survived not too dissimilar events, we ride this out get back to the area fans will start to return.
Oh and no one wants us to be at Sixfields.
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right on cue defend the indefensible
No point trying to get a simple point across bigfatron's, the dogwagging contingent will always respond with lengthy posts, which simply confirm the post you originally made.
Just remember, for you to be a balanced contributer, you must apportion blame 50/50. Anything else is splitting the fans.....
No response to this post????
Yes, but some things are out of their hands aren't they? I agree that all variables that are 100% under their control should be dealt with properly and they haven't been, but others are out of their hands but can still affect the club.
if no one wants to be at sixfields why do they go
who says there is and who cares if there is they don't own us they don't make the ultimate decision SISU does SISU obviously are to blame
whats out of their hands they make all the decisions
Oh, I think Nick meant that some are paid to make us believe that sisu are to blame?
Well I wouldn't know about that. I just meant the astro turfing on forums.
Bigfatronssba.....I issue you a challenge put you excellent thread onto GMK and wait and watch for the cordoroy, desert boot, cardigan wearing geeks with patches on their jacket elbows to spring into action.
Ok - my mistake.
What's the difference though?
If this is how a typical SBT'er sees a typical GMK'er, from an anthropological point of view, it would be interesting to see how the typical GMK'er would describe the typical SBT'er just by using a physical appearance/dress sense description.
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